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    Was curious about this since the memory was fuzzy in my head so I re-read a few chapters in Foley's 1st book that covered this period. Funny to think he'd given his notice about leaving 3-4 months earlier, they agreed, didn't try to resign him and then they put the tag belts on him shortly afterwards. Interesting tidbit was that he didn't want to do the first match vs Sabu in ECW until after his contract was up because he thought he could get a lot of money shoping the match around to diffrent promoters but he got forced into doing it because of the deal WCW had with ECW at the time. Said WCW was originally gonna let him out of his contract a month early with full pay with the condition he came back for 1 last match with Sullivan at the PPV. The angle to turn him heel was Flair's idea tho because Turner gave WCW more tv time to fill because baseball was on strike. He originally didn't want to do the turn because it would fuck up his merch potential on the indies if he was a heel but Rip Rogers convinced him it'd be okay because Kevin was unsympathetic and Dave, while likeable, was a crappy enough worker that the fans would still chose Cactus over him anyways.
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    They've been together since 89
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    Also worth noting that Madusa did spend 2+ years working AJW and did atleast 1 JWP tour too so that helped. For a lot of their singles matches they basicly just took your standard joshi big match formula and boiled it down to a cliff notes version removing a lot of the build, matwork, selling, etc.. due to having less time to work with. Random fun fact, in late 90 Madusa was paired with Jungle Jack and would have been a big part of their feud vs Bull's gang but she bailed for WCW instead just as things were kicking off. Fuzzy on the time line. Was this pre or post nose job?
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    Cactus wants to break up post losing the titles. Evad wants them to stay together and gets beat up for his troubles. Kevin sticks up for his brother & feuds w Cactus leading to him running Cactus out of WCW. Evad & Kevin stay together but Evad becoming a Hogan worshiper pisses Kevin off leading to Kevin's turn, 3 Faces of fear, Dungeon of Doom, etc...
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    That is a head scratcher. That's his response to ppl having a problem with "you give me eggroll me love you longtime" being the tag line on his website (he's since changed it)
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    The post from Brocksmash that started the whole mess
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    Browsing the 15 greatest families in WWE history article on their website and came across this. 1. When the heck did the Rock team with his dad? 2. How long have they been blurring out Hebner's face? Really random amusing thing to do, didn't figure they'd hold the grudge to that degree.
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    I skimmed the Brocksmash threads over at the F4W board and no one really had much of a problem with that. The Key points that pissed ppl off was that he was a complete arrogant dickhead about it, talked down to ppl, thought he was above being criticised, threatened to have ppls post deleted, had an offensive racist tagline on his website and he was charging way more then any other puro dvd seller to boot. Then Alan came along and defended the guy with the attitude of "be nice to him because no one else will upload puro"
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    So whear did Wade Barrett disapear to, i'm assuming injury of some sort
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    Loss complained that it makes no sense for Kong & Hokuto to be on the same side because of how they wrestled in 1 tag match 5 months earlier. My point is that when you watch more then a handfull of matches per year, you pick up on things like who is & isn't friends with each other, patterns on who tags with who on a reg basis and you can see the diffrence between a match booked around hate, respect, titles, a tournament, a special occasion or just something randomly thrown out thear to fill a slot on a show. Like I said above, Aja & Hokuto weren't reg partners but they were freinds and respected each other. Not unusual at all for them to team and AJW booked partners to face each other all the time too so them being on opposite sides isn't unusual either. Really, friends who are also rivals is an AJW booking staple going back for maybe as long as the companies been in business. And no one changed their style up when wrestling their friends so Aja being Aja against friend or foe wasn't unusual either. Aja & Hotta were thear because they had a lot of significant history with Hokuto and that's what your "countdown" matches are about generally. They also knew Aja/Hokuto was gonna be the big egg final so this furthered it. Kansai was thear because it was a special attraction to see her against Hokuto since it hadn't happened much yet, her & Aja were in the middle of a feud and Kansai FINALLY getting a win over her furthers that and her & Hotta had a lot of history too so they thought it would be an intriging pair. It's a bit more then "uh, let's just toss 4 random ppl in a match just to do it for no reason" the way you make it sound. It's easier when you actually speak the language For the rest of us, yeah it does require a little more effort. I mean, between AJW, JWP & LLPW in 1994 there's footage of atleast 400 joshi matches available on tape. The yearbook contains 23. I'm in no way arguing you need to watch all or half or most of the matches to get things because that's silly and even I haven't done that. But when you're only watching a tiny fraction of the footage it's natural to not understand the booking, the history & the significance behind things sometimes but it's also not fair to blame the promotion for it.
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    Yeah but that's not really a true statement. AJW around this time was running 20+ shows per month of which many were showing up on fancam, they were releasing 2 - 3 comm tapes per month on average and had weekly, later monthly tv. On the yearbook things are boiled down to 2 or 3 matches every few months. I mean, Queendom was in March, this match is in August and in that 5 month gap you've only watched 1 match that involved Aja, Kansai or Hotta. OF COURSE IT'S CONFUSING I get whear you're coming from since I used to feel the exact same way for a long time, especially when I was starting out, cherry picking random shows and watching them out of order thinking the booking made no sense or was non existent and that a lot of it was all just random big dream matches for no reason. Then 1 day I started actually paying attention, watching everything I could in order the way it naturally occured and realised that I was wrong and the booking was actually pretty deep and made a lot of sense.
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    Thunderqueen tag 93 - Aja > Kansai in 10 seconds via uraken. Few months later Aja > Kansai via top rope waterwheel drop. 94 JWP Aja > Kansai uraken. Big Egg a few months later Aja > Kansai uraken. 95 Kansai > Aja after taking out Aja's arm. That Kansai got the knockout win here in the middle of all this after chasing Aja for over a year, failing 3 times and about to fail a 4th later in the year, I thought this was perfect booking. ????? Queendom was never about Aja or Bull hating Hokuto and everything was always fine between them. They weren't reg partners or anything but Aja & Hokuto had been well established as friends by that point actually. It was Aja/Hokuto vs Kandori/Eagle at Dreamslam 2, Aja was front & center with the rest of LCO & Suzuka looking concerned at during Kandori vs Hokuto II, etc.... partner/friend vs partner/friend matches have always been a heavy staple of AJW anyways going back to atleast the 70's tho. Dunno, seems a really weird complaint to make. Given their history, Hotta & Kansai makes less sense on paper as a team then Aja/Hokuto..
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    In what way? I'm in agreement with most everyone else in the who gives a fuck department on this one.
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    Is Vince Sr's wife still alive? I know Vince Jr's mom is still living but not sure about the woman Sr married after they got divorced.
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    Love Shelly & think he's awesome but yeah, I think FCW would be good for him for the same reasons Log does. Isn't weed just a fine and not a suspension? They changed the rules on it a while back, guys started doing some type of fake synthetic weed instead (spice?) so then WWE baned that too. That's what Evan Bourne got poped for if i'm remembering correctly.
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    Watching a random episode of ECW tv from 2008 and it really hits you in the face what a shitty job WWE does of elevating guys. 4 years later and the only guys who appeared on this show that are in a better position then they were back in 08 are Mark Henry and to a lesser degree Miz. Guys like Jack Swagger, Cody & Kofi who all atleast had potential to be bigger stars then they've been are still in the same interchangable mid card go no whear spot they've always been in, even worse when you add in other guys like MVP & Morrison who also could have amounted to something but got slotted the same way before quiting the company in frustration.
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    1997 Recommendations

    FLIK replied to Loss's topic in 1997

    Anyone have any thoughts on the Jado & Gedo vs Tajiri & Ryuji Yamakawa 60 min draw from BJW 7/31/97? Never seen it myself, it's a weird match that's pretty famous but not so much among "the IWC" for lack of a better term. Like if i'm reading an article or bio about any of those guys, specifcally one written by someone from Japan like Masa Horie or whoever, it gets brought up quite often, Tajiri mentioned it in his shoot, etc... but on forums like this one or on old tape review sites (remember those) or elsewhear i've never heard much or really any talk about the match.
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    They've had several singles and usually worked well in tags. Their singles stuff is kind of similar to Bull vs Kyoko in that they could have really awesome/great matches or they could have average/disapointing ones. Yamada/Hotta from 5/26/91 is the one most worth tracking down.
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    yeah, never mind, got it confused with one of their later ones
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    Forget whear but Tracy Smothers did an interview once talking about how SMW actually did have a big # of fans who were in the KKK and how much he hated them but had to pretend that he didn't to keep up his gimmick.
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    In what way?
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    5 Won't argue that it's not the least of their big singles but I actually still liked it quite a lot. Little slower paced and not as much high impact action as the rest but still plenty to enjoy I think.
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    Real good match but felt like it was missing something. Dunno what but I just couldn't help thinking in the back of my head while watching this that i've seen all these guys except Ishikawa (who the heck was he?) in tons of other jr tags just as good or better so it didn't seem like an overly stand out affair to me.
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    Anyone besides me really enjoy the Loco Max vs Virus feud from earlier this year? Just finished watching their hair match from 3/12 and thought it was a great little brawl. The Panther/Casas blow off was better but as an overall feud I actually liked Virus/Loco better since their tags building it up were also really good beyond just highlighting the main feud. The Cibernetico match from late Jan with Virus, Cancerbero, Raziel & Euforia vs Loco Max, Arkangel de la Muerte, Skandalo & Nitro is well worth going out of your way to see especially.
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