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Well, no one complains about all the shit that South Parks hits on. Jokes can't cross lines to me. That's why they're jokes.

Well, it's not like people don't know WWE is a joke. No one seems to care what they do. They're a laughing stock.

Well, we get Jerry Lawler acting like a horny old man around all the women and we had Triple H raping corpses. It's not that far off, is it? Let's not forget Val Venis the porn star & The Godfather the pimp. Afterall, Lita was raped by Kane and now they seem to be in love. Make Lita thirteen....

I have to admit, I do like their finisher. Well, when they hit it correctly that is.

The way I see it, Hassan is playing a character. You should look at it in that light. It's not disrepectful unless you take things too seriously and are looking at things with too much scrutiny. When I seen him do the throat slit gesture on Eugene at Wrestlemania, I didn't start thinking about 9/11 or beheaded people. I thought that it meant that it was over for Eugene.

That sounds good enough except for the example you used. We all know it'd lead to Conway teaming with HBK and then Conway would be in the back seat again. Same with Benjamin probably. His best bet would be to be on a different show after the face turn. Then he could start out solo from the gates. He could get them both back at a dual brand PPV or something like that. I know what you're saying though. Conway, eventually, will come around. It's always the natural progression for sympathizers.

I actually thought that it added another dimension to his character. The little things that he points out via talk are just ignored. Like when the crowd chants USA at him but he's from Michigan. That doesn't make sense. However, when he provides the visual, like with the throat slit, you can't ignore it. I like how he puts his own flare on the Camel Clutch too. With the throat slit and the sideways applying of the head, it seems fresh.

It just seems like Grenier hasn't got any better during his entire stint in WWE so far. He's obviously the weak link in the team. The only thing that he ever really does is start to sing the Anthem so that he can get cut off by entrance music.

Just to give this thread a little bit of new life, what do you guys think about the throat slit gesture? I actually was digging it. I didn't think that it was in poor taste. He's a heel and it was signifying that the end was near. It was during his finisher. Benoit does the same thing but I guess it's to his own neck and not to his opponents.

When I see Rob Conway, I see potential. When I see Sylvain Grenier, I see him holding back Rob Conway. I think that Conway could be a break away star. The problem is, if you take Conway away from Grenier, what happens to Grenier? He'd just be another lost wrestler in a sea of under-utilized talent. Perhaps it'd be the other way around and WWE would only use Grenier? Would it be worth the risk though? I mean, La R?sistance aren't doing a lot as a tag team. Hell, even with the Heart Throbs showing up on Raw last week, you have to believe that the Raw tag team scene is dead. Perhaps they'd be better off if they split up? They've done everything that a tag team can do in this day and age in WWE already. With the draft lottery coming up, perhaps Conway could go solo and Grenier could get back together with Dupree? I don't get UPN, so I can't watch Smackdown. That being said, I don't know how well Dupree is fairing by flying solo. So, what do you guys think?

Alright, I just got done watching the match. It's from Turning Point, correct? I just want to make sure that I watched the correct match. It seems like the cage match that got a lot of praise in the past featured all three members of XXX. I can't believe that Christopher Daniels got color so early. It's like, two minutes into the match and he's already juiced. I guess it was trying to get over the importance of the cage early. I have to tell you, I think that the biggest knock that I have against this match is the damn camera work. From outside the cage, the fence gets in the way. From the aerial cam, the cameraman seems drunk. It does have an old school feel to the match though. The way that XXX cheats is classic. Then again, having to make tags in a cage match seems a little odd. I like that the match actually has double team moves too. That's something that seems to be lost nowadays in WWE. I think that I've grown immune to Don West now. I can completely ignore him at will. I guess that's a good thing, right? I don't like how the key to the handcuffs and the handcuffs themselves played such a big role in the match. That's just speaking for the match itself. I'm sure that it makes more sense because of the build-up leading into the match. It just seems like being in the cage would be bad enough. I assume it was to show that XXX had numbers and then AMW finally got the momentum to swing in their favor for once. At least it played into the finish. Outside of James Storm playing Ricky Morton while Chris Harris was handcuffed, there's really not a whole lot of selling. I mean, a guy will take a move and then a few moments later he'll be the one cleaning house. I guess it's because the match didn't have as much time as it should've, I don't know. It just seems like bodies should be laying around a lot more for some of the moves that were pulled off. The match definitely moved at a faster pace. I've never been a big fan of wresters using their opponents finish. Especially when it leads to a kick-out. Of course, AMW eventually won with the Powerplex or whatever XXX call it. Still, if felt lackluster after seeing top-of-the-cage Hurricanrana's and shit. I marked out for the top rope Powerbomb. I can't believe that Skipper kicked out of that. Angel's Wings also got a two count. I don't know if I've ever seen Daniels get a pinfall with that. The spots from the top of the cage were pretty cool. I think the cage walk overshadowed Daniels' elbow however. The "Tower of Doom" as Mike Tenay called it looked like an injury waiting to happen. I know I held my breath watching that. All in all, it's a good little match. A decent spot fest. I don't think it's the best match that I've ever seen but it did all tie together well. XXX used the handcuffs early and their opponents finisher. It didn't work. AMW used the handcuffs late and their opponents finisher and it did work. It was also an excuse to send Daniels flying solo and I'm all for that.

Brock Lesnar came from OVW and he's definitely better than Orton. Or at least he was.

I'm downloading it right now. I'll rewatch it then let you know what I think because I don't remember it at all. I'm not even certain if I've seen it to be honest.

Set a VCR to record it?

Here's the time listings: http://www.tnawrestling.com/news/2004/5/26/news.html

Yes. I have two Fox Sports channels and one show of Impact comes on at two and the other one at three. I think the listing can be found on their website. Lemme look real quick.... EDIT: Go here and select your state.

Yeah, I plan on watching Impact weekly now. In fact, since I've started to not watch Raw anymore, I've told a couple of my friends that the weekly wrestling get together will be TNA now. It gives us something to do and a weekly wrestling fix too.

I actually haven't watched TNA in quite some time. WWE has been boring me lately, or at least Raw has, so I might start following it again. I won't be able to watch the PPV tonight since I can't order PPV from where I'm at but I do plan on downloading it after the show is over. I want to see it so that I can voice my opinion on it. I posted a "ban me" thread at TSM because the only real reason I still went there was for the WWE folder. The WWE folder over there is worse than the actual WWE. That's part of the reason why I've been posting here a lot more recently. I was kinda hoping that a couple of you other cats would start trying to follow TNA with me. Even if the product isn't as good as it could be, it'll give us something else to talk about. Or give me someone to preach to rather.

Well, from what I've read, it was Dixie Carter's idea. So, take that for what it's worth. Still, it looks like a last hoo-rah for Dusty as booker...even if he didn't have anything to do with it. As far as TNA the company is concerned, as long as they have Panda backing them, they're not going anywhere.

No shit. I mean, his catchphrase was "Oh my God." That might offend some people. Styles is just being a bitch because he hates WWE.

Anyone know about this or plan on watching it? It's an all cage match PPV. http://www.tnawrestling.com/lockdown/index.html I don't know how I feel about the PPV gimmick but the matches don't seem to be too bad on paper. Just thought I'd make a non-WWE post and give you guys a heads up in case anyone was interested.

You know, had I thought of it, I'd have made this post a poll. Oh well, I'll remember to do so next time.

You know, I'm usually not a big fan of reading match reviews. I would like to state, however, that it's a lot more entertaining to read reviews of bad matches that it is to read reviews of good matches. Well, at least it is to me. I especially like how HTQ points out why each problematic part of the match didn't make sense. It was just a bunch of filler and that's just one of the reasons why the match was bad. I swear, when I read a lot of reviews, I think that they start out with a certain score simply because of whom is involved in a match. If Benoit were to have a match against anyone and the match was nothing but botched spots and run-ins, I'm confident that it would still get at least two stars simply because Benoit was in the match. That's why I don't like reading reviews from people like Scott Keith or anyone else on-line really. It's not possible to not be biased when writing up a review of a match. When one of your favorites is in that match forget about it. I guess that's why you should read multiple opinions about each match though. If the general consensus is that something it bad, you might want to consider avoiding it. Or, on the other hand, you could seek it out on purpose to see how close to your opinion the general consensus is. The problem with that is that your overall opinion on what you're watching will be clouded because you'll be thinking about what you read. I think you should watch something and then form an opinion on it. Then read all the reviews from multiple sources. Then rewatch it and see if your opinion has shifted a lot. Sometimes it does as you notice new things or if new things have been pointed out to you. Of course, it's not easy to get that much time to do all that.

I don't think it derails the thread at all. In fact, it'd probably make an interesting topic. When I was talking about making threads about random questions, this is the thread that popped into my head. I think threads like this can bring about some good discussion. I think that Melina might turn into a really good character over on Smackdown too. Daivari better watch out or he might get outshined. Speaking of Maven and Hassan, you know who else stands out to me? Rob Conway from La R?sistance. I bet he'd be pretty good if he got a chance to fly solo. He reminds me of a lot of things that I liked about Val Venis a few years ago. See, I derailed my own thread! Anyway, I don't like the direction that Hassan is taking already. Why is he getting into a feud with HBK anyway? Since when is HBK all patriotic? Because he's from Texas? This is just another excuse to get fucking Hogan on PPV. It's pathetic. I'd like to see Hassan go after IC gold. Start his ladder climbing. It's not like people want to see Jericho hanging around the IC belt anyway. Hassan/Benjamin would've been a good feud. Now it looks like Shelton may turn heel. Hassan/Benjamin would've even wrote itself since Shelton was in the patrotic Team Angle at one time. Hell, they could even bring up his wrestling backround or something to throw some more fuel on the fire. Damnit!

I mean, I like Hussan a lot. Daivari too. I don't think that he's the only person on Raw that I like though. To tell ya'll the truth, I've actually came around a lot on Maven. He's gotten himself into a lot better shape. Not only that but he's getting better too. Hell, he even talks every now and again nowadays. I think that Maven has a bright future too. That is unless WWE randomly fire him. I'm off the Batista bandwagon though. Ever since WWE started having him do comedy spots and the thumbs down pose it's just not been the same. My friends and I all liked him when he did the subtle things. Like the "guns" during his entrance. Now people point it out and think he's doing the cabbage patch dance. What the fuck? I wish MNM and Carlito were on Raw. I don't get Smackdown. Anyway, back to Hassan, I think that he should start working the back more in his matches. Start doing shit like a Russian Leg Sweep and a Back Breaker. It'd make his Camel Clutch make more sense in the end. I don't know what Joey Styles is talking about either. I thought the throat slit on the Clutch was badass. Distasteful? This is fucking prowrestling!