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This post on Nord has motivated me to put together a little 3 or 4 disc set of some of his work, i enjoyed his work in WCW in 97 & 98, especially his team with Darsow

I was calling AJ the best in the business back in the early-mid 2000's when everyone was pissing all over it because he worked for TNA instead of WWE. He has always been a tremendous worker, he has just changed his style since going to WWE, he is safer & calmer in the ring which in all honesty will only benefit him in the long run. Shawn Michaels IMO is one of the top workers in the history of the business, but I just have to have AJ ahead of him at this point. I just feel AJ has had many more great matches, & he has absolutely had a more wide variety of opponents to work with as well.

I have never liked him one bit at all ever, not in Canada, CZW, IWA/MS, PWG, ROH or any other indy before NXT & WWE, he has had a few stand out matches, however I credit those to the guys he was working with just as much if not more than I do him, no one can give me a 4+ star match against a mediocre opponent that he caries from start to finish. I think the guy is just a fat tub of goo & he is a pompous asshole in real life that thinks he is the know all end all of the wrestling business

thats a great perspective, I havent actually thought about it that way before

I always dug the Z-Man when I was a kid. I did not discover his previous WWF work with Martel until my adult years when I began tape trading but I really enjoyed that stuff as well. In WCW his tagteam with Pillman I thought was very underrated, and his TV title run was good, he had awesome matches with Arn Anderson. Lets also not forget he did something hardly any guys in the business can do, once he got out he literally got out & stayed out of the public forum which as a former 13 year worker myself I can appreciate. RIP Mr. Zenk, I really wish we would have gotten a shoot interview from him... God Bless

I think this is spot on. And since we are on that subject Most Overrated Ron Garvin Blue Panther - I've done a 180 on Panther. Used to think he was one of the Lucha greats but looking back I have found a lot of his matches disappointing. CM Punk - Good worker, charismatic but no where near as good as his peers. Lack of high end stuff outside of the Joe Series and the Brock match. Stan Hansen Tamon Honda - A weird pick since he works the kind of style I usually like but think he is underwhelming more often than not and the praise is hyperbolic. Ted DiBiase - Pretty versatile and dependable but more a solid hand than a great worker. Keiji Mutoh - Wildly inconsistent Andre the Giant - I can understand the appeal since he was something unique but in terms of actual good/great matches, he has very little going on. Harley Race - Mind numbingly boring Hulk Hogan - I won't deny the energy and charisma during his prime but as a worker, he was not very good. Best matches were against Bockwinkel, Fujinami, Tenryu and one guess who was doing the heavy lifting in those matches. Alluding to the point El-P was making, just because someone is "incorrectly" labelled as terrible, doesn't suddenly make them good or great when you try and rectify that perception. The pendulum effect describes it perfectly. Steve Williams - Misawa got a great match out of him in 94 but I find him pretty dull in most other settings. Worst Kobashi opponent ever by a huge margin. John Cena - Still like him quite a lot, great ace. But his big match formula + many matches do not age well at all, inconsistent, lack of high end stuff. Dustin Rhodes - Really liked him in 91-94 but he has gaping holes in his career + inconsistencies + lack of high end stuff. Ron Garvin has had some pretty great matches against AA, Flair, Blanchard & Valentine Stan Hansen was my number 3 in the greatest wrestler top 100 list CM Punk IMO is one of the top 50 greatest workers of all time Ted Dibiase is one of my top 20 wrestlers of all time, his Mid South & Georgia stuff showed how great he was John Cena is the modern era Hulk Hogan, IMO a bigger star than Hogan was in his prime (just my opinion)

I am game to watch anything you suggest, I remember as a kid being scared to death of him Earthquake for me I loved, I am probably the minority, but I loved his team with Typhoon (Natural Disasters) Matt Bourne also has great run in WCCW, I agree 100% on him

El Dandy is one of my personal all time favorites, I really got hooked on him after the 80s Lucha set stuff

Who would be your top 5 or so that you consider the most under rated workers of all time & why? When I thought about this I had these guys off the top of my head: Rick Martel Brad Armstrong Bobby Eaton Chris Adams Terry Taylor

Welcome aboard friend, this place has the best professional wrestling discussions on the internet today IMO, this is the place to be