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  1. Kandori still being in is pretty awesome. I'm gonna hate her finishing below Randy Orton. I watched a couple of those 2008 Edge/Undertaker matches recently and it reinforced my hatred of how Edge worked around that time. He gets even worse by 2010. I don't think Cody Rhodes has ever actually been good. Does some things well but never actually been overall good. The all time bad Mania match this year didn't help my enthusiasm. Really cool to see Tarzan Goto make it this far all things considered. I don't know what his current general rep is outside of the Japanese indy sleaze obsessives but I had him in my bottom 10 just for always delivering whats advertised. And what's advertised always looks like a good time.
  2. Given some of the names that dropped already I'm kind of stunned somebody like Smothers or Nishimura made it this far, some kind of campaigning for them over the past five years must have worked. If I vote in 2036 Nishimura will probably slide off so I'm happy I gave him a spot this time even if it was just at #89. At least he finished above Cole and Gargano.
  3. I'm not sure I actually think Fiera is a better worker than Emilio or Bestia myself despite voting for him and not them, but I did watch a bunch of Fiera before the deadline and came away thinking he had a good resume of 90s singles matches.
  4. Blackwell is actually my first wrestler to drop (#86) which might make me a little boring but hey at least all of my list finished within the top 500. Wish I could say they all finished ahead of KANE but c'est la vie. I expected my #99 to come out already but I underestimate how many fans he has now. I would have expected Shane Douglas to fall way more than 110 spots from 2016 if I'm honest.
  5. Watched it last year and the 8/23/91 Shamrock vs. Funaki is not something I would recommend. Takes forever to get anywhere and then basically doesn't get there anyway.
  6. I felt bad taking off Tommy Rogers but its just been too long since I watched the Fantastics vs. Midnight Express series that I couldn't do it. Maybe if he had a great singles program like '86 Morton.
  7. Not that it can be fixed now, but surely these are the same voters who resubmitted due to error? Will their #1s (etc) get double points?
  8. Never would have guessed Sho Funaki would get a vote anywhere near #35. Ouch for Tamon Honda finishing this low, but I can't be too shocked. His case might ultimately be a little thin considering every highlight of his on tape now seems to be between 2001 - 2003. Still he was a beast in 2003 and the Ikeda and Akiyama matches are great. Dork ass Marty Scurll shouldn't be anywhere near him. If we somehow get all the Fu-Ten matches Honda had this next decade I would bet it would lock him onto my own list. Hoping there are more gems from his outside of that 01 - 03 range we already that I've not seen, too. I need to dive more in Ran YuYu because she's pretty great in GAEA in my viewing. The September 2003 match vs. Meiko is one of my favourite matches of that year. Side-note, pretty cool the reveal thread has already hit 10,000+ views.
  9. I assumed Brunzell and especially Keirn would have finished higher too, maybe the territories guys are even more hurt than I thought. Glad Tony Anthony, SUWA, Akira Nogami and Todd Morton got some votes. Someone needs to find a source for that XCW indy that Morton was wrestling in in the late 2000s that the Segunda Caida guys were talking up at the time. I've heard a decent bit about Ray Gonzales this past year (well, relative to every other year of my life) and the curiosity bug has hit me.
  10. Wow I feel dirty not properly considering Tama/Tonga Kid now, he's way too electric to get this little attention. I'm glad Ivan Putski is winning some people over, he's actually really fun in the right setting and throws a super mean looking strike. Maybe he was a sloth for most of his run but it's a consensus I'd like to challenge one day. A bit wild how much los Traumas just disappeared off people's radars these past ten years.
  11. I wouldn't ever vote for him but I may need to rep a bunch of Chavo Jr. tv matches in nine years so he gets higher than 800-something. Very reliable worker practically his entire WWE run with some of the best junior-style matches of the 2000s.
  12. I do think the pillars will be fine, and I think the 'push back' on a lot of it is pushing back against the idea that it's the definitive and unquestioned peak of what a time period can be in terms of matches. Which, as big a fan of that era as I still am (if I made a top 100 matches, I'd bet 90s All Japan would still be the most well-represented decade for a company), I think is healthy as long it doesn't feel unnecessarily contrarian (though, how can that be proven person-to-person anyway). I think someone like Hashimoto should have always been seen as equal to any of them. I do think the length of the matches is daunting for people too like NotJayTabb said above, not to mention for newer viewers there can be pressure to think "well these four 35 minute matches need to be watched before the BEST one, is what I heard." I name one of my children Matthew D if you get Gen Alpha to think Andre is better than Will Ospreay let's gooooo (or whatever gen alpha are saying as a hype phrase in 2036)
  13. The DVDVR 80s projects being so long ago that a lot of younger people don't even know what they are, let alone feel like they need to track them down and watch them, hurts the territory guys. Which is likely a result of forums being less relevant for wrestling talk than a place like twitter. I'd hate to single out the guy but I also think Dave Meltzer planting his feet in the ground that matches have only gotten better over time doesn't help a lot of it. Maybe a lot of these younger fans would like Misawa vs. Kawada or Duggan vs. DiBiase, but they also might go into assuming it can't be better than Tanahashi vs. Okada or Omega vs. Hangman Page. Maybe I'm overestimating how far this has spread, though.
  14. He was (I looked earlier so going by memory) around #86 ten years ago, I'd say top 25 is a lock now. *But* not everyone is showing their lists so its possible he's being left off of more than I'd realise. Guess we'll find out.
  15. I think Tanahashi probably lands top 10. There are a lot of omissions for him (including myself) but I've also seen a decent bit for Misawa and Kawada so I think he has as good a chance as they do. I've seen him at a higher rank on lists on average than I've seen for Liger. I agree the 80s territory guys will take a hit. I don't see someone like DiBiase making the 100. Edit - Arn Anderson was at #19 and Barry Windham at #25. No shot any more.
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