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I’m thinking with where Taichi ended up, the fact that we still haven’t seen Hirooki Goto yet, that we have seen Rhea Ripley & that Sheamus did worse than 2016….top 100 is going to be 2010s NJPW heavy

6 people (at least) voted for Road Warrior Hawk but not Road Warrior Animal. And I appreciate them for it, trying to analyse which person in a tag team is actually better and rewarding them for it is an admirable endeavour.

Discord invite links have expiration dates for whatever reason: https://discord.gg/f7pf8VXz that should work.

The wrestler who I think is to 2026 what Jerry Blackwell was to 2016 is Dump Matsumoto. She finished 288th last time around appearing on 12 ballots. This time there was a lot of hype for her in the thread and in the discord, the results will show a big Dump resurgence.

With Hector Garza and Natsuki*Taiyo we're finally getting some wrestlers who got votes in 2016 who are finishing in a better position in 2026 than they did in 2016.

In some sense Terry Rudge falling so low is a shame because I'm sure everyone who loves William Regal would at least like him and they're missing out on something they'd enjoy by not watching him. On the other hand I cannot get into Terry Rudge that much at all, totally not for me, I watch him and see someone just a bit above the average World of Sport guy (so still better than Kendo Nagasaki)

Wrestling superfan who worked for Emi Sakura's promotion during the no fan era of the pandemic. She lost all her matches, was a totally unathletic endearing underdog.

I think it's honestly pretty lame to rank someone like Lulu Pencil as your number 2 wrestler of all time. You can love the booking of that stuff (which to me is why it comes off so well), you can appreciate that she does have a very likable persona, that she came across very genuine but I feel like if you watch a lot wrestling and come to the conclusion that she is the 2nd best at the performance of it of everyone you've ever seen, I think you probably don't get it.

Hard for me to understand what makes someone consider Mr. Fuji, Baron Scicula or Jet Uso a top 50 wrestler of all time. I would love to see these people post about what it is they love about these guys

Ted DiBiase is definitely better than Barabarian, but ultimately it's an opinion about wrestlers so it's not worth getting emotional over.

If your case is that Doug Somers is in on the grounds of being involved in that feud, looking good in it and doing nothing else, does that mean you also ranked Marty Janetty, who has that feud, plus has the rest of The Rockers run, plus the 1993 WWF stuff? Does this mean you ranked all the people in The Briscoes/FTR matches that you cite as approximate equals to the Rose/Somers/Rockers stuff? If some of those people are excluded, I'd like to hear why?

Ain’t no way Roman ends up top 50

Alrighty, there we go:

Dick Murdoch does so many great little things similar to Arn Anderson, but unlike Arn Anderson can also actually have great matches.

This feels like a motte and bailey, you made a very bold statement in your first statement, that you knew people would think you meant Brisco was a far better pro-wrestler and now you retreat to the easily defended position you actually meant. I think just anyone could just as easily say Brisco couldn't fill Danielson's shoes if he was put in his position in '06-'09 '13 or '24 or whatever. They're both capable of wrestling heated matches, whether that's Brisco clips in florida, Brisco vs Piper in '82, Danielson vs Morishima or Danielson vs Swerve. But I think the emotion is more palpable in Danielson and Morishima from Final Battle 2008 than any Brisco match. Jack Brisco is a capable heel, but as great as Briscos vs Steamboat and Youngblood is, I can't look at Danielson vs Roderick Strong (a horrible babyface at this time and specifically in this match) from 2006-03-31 and not say that is a better heel performance than any I've seen from Jack Brisco. Brisco is better in Japan than Danielson, but in Brisco's case it's what makes up the bulk of the footage from his peak and in Danielson's case its something nobody thinks about when the look at his career because it makes up less than 1% of it.