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  1. Tetsujin

    Bull Nakano

    Trying to reply both. I know the Aja rivalry, and the status she has before, during and after feuding with Bull. I like the rivalry and I love them together. My bad for saying I wanted Bull to be "the main attraction", she clearly was the ace of AJW and the biggest star of her period on top of the mountai, wasn't trying to say she wasnt. What I was trying to say is that, taking Aja as an example, even while still not at her peak and still not the face of the company, you can make a strong argument about Aja being, at least, as good as Bull in their most famous matches. I want Bull against obvious worse workers than her, and I don't think Aja was obviously worse than Bull in the cage match or the title matches from 1992, for example. I want to see Bull matches where the purpose can just be "look how good this match can be because it's a Bull Nakano match", not "look how cool this match can be because it's Bull Nakano, a great wrestlers, against [insert another great wrestler she faced]". I want matches where she's the main attraction from a ringwork perspective. And no, I don't need Bull to be the best at every aspect of her game. It would help to rank her higher, obviously, but there's no need for that because I already see how good she was. I think she's like Tenryu, wrestlers that the whole is better than the sum of their parts. I still like her and will rank her, just not as high as most of the other joshi candidates I'm also focusing on right now. She's very carismatic, energetic, and I can see the argument for her being a total package in the ring, but I believe some other joshi contenders took some of Bull's aspects to next level of greatness, and defined their ringwork better focusing on them and adding more personality than her.
  2. Tetsujin

    Bull Nakano

    From what I can say, Yoshida-Yagi is a better match than any Bull Nakano match I've ever seen (including Queendom). I like Bull, and I feel I should like her style more than I do because, on paper, hers is the type of wrestling I would do If I were a pro wrestler. But there's something about her that doesn't click with me as much as other joshi candidates, or great wrestlers in general. She's like a mix of qualities I appreciate, but in small dosis, and you can find what makes her great at bigger scale in other joshi legends. She's not as brutal as Aja, as dramatic as Hokuto, as menacing as Kandori, as spectacular as Toyota, as vicious as Ozaki, as creative as Satomura, etc. And I can't find a proper word for her: That's maybe because I'm watching her against (what I consider) better wrestlers, so I would love some Bull recommendations where she's the main atrraction, the clearly better wrestler of the match, against lesser known opponents.
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    Mick Foley

    Foley was the best wrestler in the Attitude Era by far (considering Austin best years, 1997 and 2001, happened just before and after the AE). The most intelligent "dumb" wrestler ever, and the kind of worker you could always trust to deliver something great when it was necesary. He'll be on my list, near the middle.
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    Meiko Satomura

    Just watched this. Fuck, you were god damn right. Satomura is a top 25 contender to me (just like others, idk, 40? or some others wrestlers, duh), and the more I watch of her, the more I'm convinced she's AT LEAST top 3 joshi ever. Right now I have her in my top 5 (Aja, Hokuto, Kandori and Devil are the other ones, and I think Meiko has a strong chance to, at least, surpass the last two), and she's totally one of the best workers of the 10s. Male and female. One of the absolute best offensive wrestlers ever, and her consistency is almost unmatched (from what I've watched thus far). Pretty hyped to see where I'm finally putting her after five more years watching her work.
  5. Tetsujin

    'Nature Boy' Buddy Rogers

    Isn't Gorgeous George the guy that basically invented heel gimmicks and wrestling?
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    Bret Hart

    I think 2016 GWE nailed it with Bret. Top 20 but not top 10 sounds perfect for him, to me. I have him a bit lower, he's definitely a top 25 contender, it's just that there are more than 25 amazing wrestlers fighting for a top 25 slot.
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    Triple H

    I would say Batista had his best match ever with Trips at Vengeance 2005, the HIAC. Triple H is a guy I don't think deserves to be considered as great because reasons we all know, but I seriously think he really is pretty great at his best. Hell, I think he reached that level more times than people tend to give him credit for. Since 2002 he have: -Elimination Chamber 2002 (his performance kinda puts together the whole match). -WM XX main event, when I think he's the best performer of the match. -The Batista feud, the only time in his career he put over someone else, with the HIAC showdown as their greatest hit and a legit MOTYC. -WM XXIV Orton/Cena/HHH, very fun triple threat kinda underrated because how good that whole WM edition was (specially the MITB, Shawn/Flair and the main event. Oh and people seem to really like Show/Floyd too for whatever reason, but that's another story). -vs Cena at Night of Champions 2008. Their best match together I think, pretty cool. -Both 2008 and 2009 Elimination Chambers. -That TLC with Shawn against JeriShow, very fun stuff. -vs Sheamus at WM XXVI (he should have lost, yeah, but still pretty good match). -Both Taker matches at WM XXVII and XXVIII. I know some people don't like that kind of WWE epic storytelling, but I enjoy it for special ocassions like those two. -I remember really liking the cage match with Lesnar, but I should rewatch it, it's been a while. -Shield vs Evolution. Those two matches are amazing. -The Ambrose title match. This was the kind of match nobody expected to be that good, but damn they had so much quemistry. It was worked like a modern NWA title match, in a good way. -The Rollins match. Yeah I really like that, and I'm not really a fan of either guy. But that match worked pretty well for me. -Batista's retirement match at WM 35. That was fun as hell and Triple H showed his most vicious side sincew the RA Era. (I'm excluding the most famous or typically recommended stuff like the Bryan match or the Ronda mixed tag, but those obviously are fantastic matches too. I just wanted to focus on more underrated stuff.) As you can notice, I'm only recommending a couple of matches per year (sometimes even less), and considering how many opportunities he had throughout all those years(or gave himself), that's totally a failure of a main event career. For every great match or performance he has had, he had a lot more of dissapointing, mediocre or even garbage stuff, some of it even working with good wrestlers and bringing their worst version out of them (thinking of you, Shawn). But he still had more pretty good, some even excellent matches to his resume after his 2000-01 peak. I'm not trying to encourage people to reconsider Triple H's candidacy. I won't vote for him because, as Cap said, the bad stuff totally outweights the good stuff, and for the worst reason possible: he choose to be that way, to ruin wrestlers and matches just to keep his career alive. But I dislike that theory that he wasn't able to have good matches after 2001, so I wanted to share some of his cool stuff from the last two decades, that's all.
  8. Tetsujin

    Kurt Angle

    I totally agree with El-P here. Angle was amazing as a go-go worker, but is not like he was great until 2003 and suddendly he stopped being good for the rest of his career. Great short-term seller, cocky heel dominating, limbworker, overconfident matworker, intense brawler... I think only Kobashi is better at kicking out at 2'999999 when it's necessary. He probably was the most entertaining worker to follow in TV beetween 2000 and 2006, which is awesome, and then you have his TNA run... I don't think that's Angle's peak (at least not all those years), but he is still great at what he does. His New Japan run is a bit dissapointing though, but I think you can still build his case without those matches and considering him a serious top 10 contender.
  9. Tetsujin

    Yuji Nagata

    Not even close. Okada has that privilege.
  10. Tetsujin

    Rey Mysterio Jr.

    The Jericho matches are excellent, specially the apuestas one. And you should definitely watch him against Billy Kidman at 15/03/99 Nitro, a match I consider a masterpiece in highflying cruiserweight matches. Another very underrated match is vs Taker at Royal Rumble 2010.
  11. Tetsujin

    Current Top 10 Contenders GWE2026

    1. Kenta Kobashi 2. Bryan Danielson 3. Jushin Thunder Liger 4. Hijo del Santo 5. Nick Bockwinkel 6. Chris Benoit 7. Stan Hansen 8. Mitsuharu Misawa 9. Aja Kong 10. Hiroshi Tanahashi Choosing just ten wrestlers for a preliminar ranking is hard as fuck, because I can give another, idk, 20-25 names who have strong chances to be in these top spots too. I think I have my top 3 pretty locked (the order could change, though), but from #4 to maybe #25 or whatever anything can change. Same with wrestlers I'm considering for that Q2 segment of my list (26-50). For example, right now I have Hokuto and Akiyama near the top 20, but I can see both of them as top 10 locks if everything I still have to watch continues to deliver. And the more I think about it, the more I see Misawa out of the top 10 (but not too far below). I have more top tier contenders than ever, and that's fun and satisfying as hell, but also puts a lot of pressure on me. How the hell does a list feel right if you have Casas or Funk "only" at #15 or #20 in it? But again, there's a lot more of amazing wrestlers. I still have five more years...
  12. Tetsujin

    Shawn Michaels

    I'm pretty sure Kenny Omega have a strong chance to be that guy. I feel Shawn's goofiness kinda suits him very well, both as a confident babyface and as an arrogant heel, but Kenny does that while trying to look serious and great, and I think he actually ruined big matches because of It.
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    Steve Grey

    Grey might be my favourite WOS guy, and have a strong chance of making my list. It's just a matter of where. I've seen some of his most famous matches (Myers, Saint) and some others with guys like Breaks and Cortez, loved all of them, but I still need to watch a lot more of WOS as a whole, so any recommendations are welcome.
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    Samoa Joe

    I'll watch more of his post-peak TNA stuff (let's say 2009-14, idk), to have a recent image of what he did in such a bad context. His peak years are among the best ever, and his WWE run was pretty cool too. I think he could be in my top 25.
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    Mariko Yoshida

    Yassss thanks!!!