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After a slightly extended break ThROH The Years returns to cover CAGED RAGE, a show with two big time cage matches. We talk about why a lot of matches underperformed for us but we still had a good time anyway. Trevor also reads the card to a Juggalo Championship Wrestling show. We tried our best! https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/3e47ad09-bebb-46a6-8cda-353b44bb91c3

That's interesting! As a kid I would've not been happy with that strategy, as I often would rent wrestling tapes based on length to get the most wrestling for my money. I would rent WrestleMania IV again and again even though it was one of the worst shows because it was TWO TAPES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE. I think Matt and I are both on record that we did not hate Gabe's commentary the way many ROH fans did at the time did. Hell, I think even Gabe has gone on record criticizing his commentary, and while I wouldn't call it particularly great, I've heard far worse, including from some of the ROH commentators who preceded him. Did he have annoying and funny habits? Sure. But he was ok. In one way, Lenny and Dave are less "fun" than any other ROH commentator before them because they don't make many mistakes, or say many out of left field things. For people doing podcasts, Matt and I realized how quickly into their run we went from having a handful of weirdly interesting commentary things to talk about per show to...pretty much none. They're a very straight forward, professional team. I don't think ROH was either Lenny or Dave's best work, even though that's probably going to end up being their most remembered commentary. ROH did all their commentary after the fact, and I think very few announcers can do post-produced commentary without losing at least a little of the energy and excitement they would have had calling it live in the building. I think Dave loses a lot more than Lenny in that environment though. I also think you have to remember ROH wasn't just doing any post-produced commentary, this was Dave and Lenny sitting on a production guy's couch, pulling an all-nighter, having to call two shows, six hours, back to back. That is a horrible environment to get the absolute best out of a commentary team. I think Lenny and Dave are okay in ROH. They rarely do anything bad enough that you notice them, but they often don't do work so great and notable that it makes you notice them either. I think Lenny later proved he was a very good commentator later on in places like Evolve where he was calling stuff live. In fact, during the Evolve run I'd say he was among the best in the business. For Prazak, his pre-ROH stuff in IWA-MS is what I remember. It wasn't for everybody, but it was a completely different thing from his ROH work, the laid back friend watching the show with you, way more natural sounding than his ROH run. You could've stopped that sentence after "wow, you guys knew so little". Thanks again for the great comments! The perspective of someone going through ROH and TNA together is fascinating. Sorry I don't check this often enough!

ThROH The Years closes out Death Before Dishonor V Weekend covering a big fun show. Trevor is grumpy about booking, but we see some great matches and Bill Apter. We also find time to talk old VHS tapes and Somas! Hold me closer, tiny ladder. https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/b8d7ef9b-66ee-44a0-a75f-e9c0b4279afe

I STILL THINK HE COULD BE INVOLVED

On a new ThROH The Years podcast legend Joe Gagne returns to talk about Death Before Dishonor V, Part 1. We talk about a great double main event, some interesting undercard matches that go in unexpected directions, and reveal if any of us have used crutches. A show so good that people were shooting outside the building! PROJECT 161 PROJECT 161 PROJECT 161 https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/ae7618f2-c206-4d38-a12c-1ac03f7972d9

To close out 2025, ThROH The Years reviews one of the weirdest ROH shows we've ever seen, Race to the Top Tournament Night Two. The promotion ventures into WWE style booking, Russo style logic, and Vince McMahon style humor. There are also lights. Oh the lights. Oh and Generico and Claudio have a really cool match. https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/29e479c5-9a99-4841-a89a-8b5a19a6a927

On the new ThROH The Years we start a two-parter with Race To the Top Tournament Night One. We talk a lot about tournaments in general and why the first round of this one doesn't hit like we hoped it would. Our love in for Kevin Steen continues, we say farewell to Jimmy Rave and Trevor inadvertently says 6-7 twice. https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/06934343-9830-4e97-8623-bce255f29821

Today on ThROH The Years we cover one of ROH's shortest shows, Live in Osaka. We explore the reasons this event is strangely flat and delight in some of the most boring tour diaries you've ever seen. We tried our best with this one. https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/d8053f00-2bca-4aa1-96bd-d831018a0ba1

THROH THE YEARS IS GOING TO JAPAN. Today's episode covers ROH's first ever show in The Land of the Rising Sun, Live in Tokyo. We talk about a match you should see that may have fallen under your radar before trying to figure out what a "Fight Without Honor" even is. Also, we tell you who is big in Osaka. You probably won't guess it. https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/676cc641-366c-4187-b369-846c3b8cfac0

Sorry I'm just getting to this post. What a great reply! You're like the dream listener, where sometimes I worry if I'm explaining things too much for people who already lived through it, so it's nice to know the context helps some people. The Jimmy/Lacey stuff, you are in for a ride Sir. Thanks for listening. You get to enjoy the show as a weekly show...if you just wait years for us to build a backlog.

One of ROH's best shows of 2007 gives ROH one of its best episodes. We cover Driven, ROH's second PPV, featuring a fun return, two great Bryan Danielson matches and a lot more. More importantly, we have an extended discussion about cereal and a classic Dave Meltzer unintentional sideswipe makes us laugh maybe the hardest in the history of the podcast. WOLFMOTHER. SCOTT D'AMORE. https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/6839a0f7-c656-43a5-a766-e58499223842

This ThROH The Years, Matt and Trevor talk brownies, physical media, and Gorilla Monsoon. Oh, and we also cover United We Stand, a solid B-Show with some very good matches and one that annoyed Matt. And Matt usually doesn't get annoyed! Also, can you hear Karma Chameleon during the show? Because sadly, I didn't. https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/22ce00c6-536c-412c-a4df-209c6fc53e2c

On a special MONDAY NIGHT THROH THE YEARS we cover Domination, a show with a hole in it. We tell you all about the hole, but also continue a previous show's love fest, watch some top-notch tag teaming, and see Davey Richards detect dandruff. This episode is lean but not particularly mean! https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/70d4e00d-3ab1-4dc3-9f85-ab87b5f1d0b8

It's time for ThROH The Years to review one of the better B-Shows they've seen in some time, A Fight At The Roxbury. We swoon over Kevin Steen, a new version of Danielson emerges, and we praise a building that has both pizza and air conditioning! A fun night with your boys. Or day, I don't know when you listen. https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/8c307a29-3ef5-41e6-9595-eaddfca391f0

It's finally time for ThROH The Years to cover ROH's first PPV ever, Respect is Earned! In an extra long episode, we spend over an hour talking about the story behind ROH going to PPV, before covering not just the show itself, but the matches that only made the DVD. Hear who we thought had a stand out performance, see what live report review caught us off guard, and discover what segment made Trevor irrationally angry. All that and a ton more on this episode! https://redcircle.com/shows/throh-the-years/ep/bb1fda1a-73d8-453b-9b90-946f9a4ac45e