Grimmas

UPDATED!

I said: "Someone on twitter was discussing Alexa Bliss, so I'll throw her out there. One of the better wrestlers of this generation at getting their character in ring. A great athlete with surprisingly impressive offense. The ability to work tags, babyface, and heel are all there."

jushin muta liger said: "One of the most dynamic wrestlers I've ever seen. So much that Natsuki Taiyo did what Benoit did with Dynamite Kid and completely wrestled just like Momoe. If Momoe was in her prime in this modern era where gifs of her doing the Momo Latch goes viral once every six months, she would be a star either in Bushiroad's Stardom or in one of the two majors in the US. Dynamic high speed wrestler, good tag worker and sympathetic babyface that could fire up when she needed to in important matches."

jushin muta liger said: "One of my personal favorites of all time. She's in the branch of the dynamic/high flying/high speed joshi wrestler tree that includes Jaguar Yokota, Manami Toyota, Momoe Nakanishi, Natsuki Taiyo, and Io Shirai. Sort of a victim to being in the wrong era in the 2000s but always gave good performances throughout her career whether she was in ARSION, AJW, TNA, SHIMMER, AAA and WAVE. Her match layouts became repetitive later in her career but it worked nonetheless. Very good tag worker, underrated brawler and one of the most flexible wrestlers in terms of adapting to where she was working."

Jmare007 said: "Just like Takuya Nomura, I think it's best to get a nomination early because by the time we vote he's gonna have a decade worth of footage and as another young prodigy, he can end up making a case to get into some ballots. Abe is really small, but he has no issue working big. He can also be very flashy, very stiff and take a whole lot of punishment. He can pull off some incredible reversals and has done some really great stuff trying to keep the FUTEN/Battlearts aura around puroresu as well as more traditional work that is also top notch."

Jmare007 said: "Talk about a guy that "got it" as soon as he debuted, four months after his debut he's having fun matches in Big Japan and All Japan. Nomura is as close to a prodigy as you can get. The guy knows how to sell, show fire, strike and make a match more interesting with his work. Sure, he has the "advantage" of being a disrespectful punk, so him showing up against bigger and more established opponents was a novelty he had from the get go. But not everyone can pull that off as well as he does it. We are five years into his career and he has MOTYCs in singles and tags in at least 3 of them, and whole bunch of fun multi man tags, tag team and singles performances. His team with Fuminori Abe (Astronauts) is one of the best in the word. By the time we vote, we'll have a decade's worth of work and he'll most likely get a big singles run in one or two promotions so better start getting familiar with him now so we can evaluate him as worthy of making our ballots."

jushin muta liger said: "One of the most underrated workers in the last twenty years. Has a deep resume of great matches that either people have not discovered or have been dismissed by people who have personal bias against her. Has a big bomb throwing style that people who don't watch joshi would love but made it believable. Always produced quality matches in her ace runs in SUN, JWP, STARDOM and SEAdLINNNG. Great as a single, great as tag worker, even great at intergender matches."

Elliot said: "If I were just making a list of most talented people to ever try pro-wrestling, Kaufman is at or near the top. We've been doing the Greatest Match Ever project for the last couple of years and my last top 100 had 4 Andy Kaufman matches on it. He had a complete understanding of psychology before he ever worked a match. People have talked about considering interviews, angles and things other than just the bell to bell in ring action, then Kaufman merits not just a nomination but serious consideration. Some of the greatest promo's ever. The Letterman Angle has to be on the short list of greatest angles ever. Literally every second he was on screen during a wrestling show was complete magic. Only had a few matches but they are genius examples of what makes pro wrestling great. The match against Jimmy Hart is basically the Volk Han vs Kiyoshi Tamura version of two chickenshit non-athlete cowards with big mouths who don't want to fight but accidentally talked themselves into a situation where they have to fight. It is better than every Brock Lesnar match ever. Took like 3 bumps ever and they're some of the greatest and most memorable bumps ever. Kaufman was a literal genius wrestler. The only thing holding him from absolutely garnering a spot on my list is the brevity of his run. But it is so great I might just put him at 100. "

Elliot said: "1/2 of one of the best acts in wrestling history. Has a bunch of great matches on her resume.' Was a good traditional Joshi worker before LCO went into full on brawling maniacs mode starting in 97 and became the legends that they are. Was taller than most other Joshi wrestlers and developed some good stuff emphasizing her height. Not the charisma machine that Shimoda was, but the workhorse. Terry Gordy to Shimoda's Michael Hayes. I haven't exlpored her singles work as much as I have Shimoda's, but it is something I'll do over the next 5 years because just being part of LCO makes you a contender for the list."

GOTNW said: "I'm reserving judgement on what caliber of a worker he was in a comparative and historical sense, but I can say he is an absolute lock for my list. If you like workers in the Choshu tradition (like Kensuke Sasaki, Ishii or the BJW strong guys), Tenryu and the W.A.R. style, Fit Finlay, or even older workers Johnny Valentine and Wahoo McDaniel, I think you absolutely owe it to yourself to check out his work and give him a shot. His tight style and brawling attract immediate attention, but he is a skilled matworker too. Plus, how can you dislike a wrestler who worked a gimmick based on how hard his head was?"

Matt D said: "One of the great pro wrestling villains of the 20th century. A vulnerable, cringing, and craven lead heel who often sold with close-up expressiveness as if his liver was caught in a bear trap. He was slick enough to hang in the demanding French Catch style, had an absolute mean streak when on top, and could hit as hard as anyone, using his Mr. Belvedere body type to bully and control the ring. He was able to go from sending the crowd and announcer into fits of laughter to doing tangible damage to his opponent with the snap of his finger, and was credible in his wins despite being vulnerable for a huge chunk of the match prior. We have him in all sorts of settings over 20+ matches: tags with an equal in Bollet and with minions like Guy Robin, as de facto babyface vs monsters, in long singles matches against a variety of opponents, from the mid-50s into the 70s."

cubbymark said: "A second generation star who happens to be Ric Flair’s daughter. Just because you are the offspring of a wrestling legend, doesn’t always mean all the natural talent transfers over. Just look at David Flair. She is considered to be one of the WWE Horsewomen and is generally pushed very well. To me she’s probably the most underrated of the four. She might get some backlash from folks, but she can get in the ring and do very athletic and creative things. Charlotte is also a tremendous big match wrestler. When she is a heel, she definitely exudes her daddy’s swagger and arrogance. She can be extremely vicious when necessary. "

Dav'oh said: "Possibly the greatest heel of all-time who could also work face depending on the opponent. Career that stretched across four decades from 1947 to 1977, main-eventing all over the world. Was the number one heel wherever he was and drew huge money with everyone he performed with, and he faced them all, and beat most of them - Rogers, Watson, O'Connor, Carpentier, Sammartino et al. One of the fittest wrestlers of all-time, (after an hour broadway with Bruno, made it back to the dressing room first and although knackered, made sure he was doing push-ups when Bruno walked in) and incredibly strong. Helped launch Andre in the States and Baba in Japan, as well as making Bruno look a million bucks. Trained Triple H, Eddie Edwards, Chyna, Kofi, Matt Bloom, Perry Saturn and possibly Sasha Banks, amongst others."

Microstatistics said: "One of the standouts from the 1950s-60s era, even with very limited footage. Great heel, proficient in both technical wrestling and underhanded roughhousing. The Jesse James match is a classic."

I said: "From 2017-19 (when I started to really focus on women's indies) Mercedes was the best wrestler in the world (any gender/promotion). A great technician, who can have a technical match, but also with deadly strikes and brutal suplexes. She can brawl, be a heel, be a babyface, or whatever you need. Going through Shimmer she rules in 2005-06 before the injury, that was 15 years ago. She's still really great when chances arise in the WWE. I have some gaps to fill outside of Shimmer and before 2017, but she's making herself a top ten case in my view."

Nintendo Logic said: "The best underdog of this generation. Amazing seller and lunatic bumper. One of the few guys working today who can make high-flying offense look dangerous, like he's flinging his body at opponents like a missile. Excels at spots that are creative without feeling contrived. Also excels at making it look like he's genuinely catching his opponents off-guard with his dives. Spectacular, violent, and logical-he's the total package."

The thread which has been made to get ideas for 2026 has turned into a catch all thread. Therefore, I created a catch all thread.

GW3

It's the third GWE

BIG TOPIC! 100% off, sorry I don't have room: Bill Dundee, AJ Styles, Hulk Hogan, Dutch Mantell, Dick Murdoch, Jay Briscoe, Brian Pillman, & Curt Hennig. These are locks to be added: Meiko Satomura, Sasha Banks, Mercedes Martinez, Goldberg, Devil Masami, Chigusa Nagayo, Lioness Asuka, & Shinobua Kandori. I have another like of about 60 people I want to add to my list too, but that's going to take time to figure that out.

Nothing, just stating he's on my list.

One of the men that are staying on my list. Such a smart worker. Such a force of nature in the ring. Love him!

Alan made a tremendous case on the Launch Podcast.

I will get to these within the next few days, sorry it takes time, so bear with me. Keep nominations coming. Someone on twitter was discussing Alexa Bliss, so I'll throw her out there. One of the better wrestlers of this generation at getting their character in ring. A great athlete with surprisingly impressive offense. The ability to work tags, babyface, and heel are all there. Recs: Alexa Bliss vs Ronda Rousey (SummerSlam 2018) Elimination Chamber 2018 Fatal Five Way (No Mercy 2017)

I present to you Asuka. From a dead period in joshi, to Shimmer, to NXT/WWE, she's kind of been all over the place and gives glimpses to places that don't get enough love.