Grimmas

Discuss here. Reel said: "We don't have a ton of footage of Valentine, but every time he shows up, I can't help but think he's one of the best wrestlers I've ever seen. He's physical and can convincingly brutalize people like in the 1972 tag below, but when he has to sell, he's great at that too, stumbling around in a mad daze. The best matches we have from him, he's in his 40's and he's out there with guys like Wild Bill Curry basically inventing BattlArts in 1969."

a third match?

Talking about big matches, she just delivered another classic in the main event of the first show they had infront of fans for over a year! One of the best WM main events in a long time.

I'm in early 1992 and she has the talent. Has been great in the Hokuto matches, is seemingly great in tags, but a lot of her singles matches she is too much. Like she'll be worn down with leg submissions and sell them soooo well, then she makes a comeback and hits 12 dropkicks and completely ignores the leg selling. She's infuriating.

Probably the best match is the tournament finals vs Sara Del Rey There is some on youtube, but streamshimmer.com will have all her matches from Shimmer.

If it's important, it's going to be an awesome list full of joshi workers!

Let's not forget that Becky Lynch was one of the best teenage wrestlers ever and her short time in Shimmer proved that. Just an outstanding wrestler who got it IMMEDIATELY!

Discuss here. Witlon said: "I was reminded recently that he didn't even get nominated last time, and that is just a bit of a travesty. He was one of the most transcendent stars of the 1980s, especially in Mid South and had an undeniable charisma in the ring, and out. There's some great matches sprinkled in there, too."

Discuss here. Boss Rock said: "Was a relatively obscure indie name who exploded over the last four years. Fantastic juggernaut and final boss type with some of the most physical matches in recent years. Might be the greatest chopper ever and his overall offensive game is among the best in the world today. Every WALTER match is a brutal spectacle."

These are match reviews and recs, which are great, but if I could have a little paragraph about why each of these are worth voting for?

Discuss here. Stiva said: "Admittedly, she has a very small pool of matches and this nomination is based on the assumption that she’s going to eventually come back and pick up where she left off. But for that year, every one of her big matches was appointment viewing; she had one of the best modern Mania tag matches where she already looked like a natural and then came the title run; staring down the assembly line of WWEs women and delivering every time. Was able to work matches underneath (Bayley, Nikki Bella) with great selling and attention to detail, she could work as the superior grappler who gave just enough to her opponent (Sasha, Alexa) and when she had to bring it in hot angles in the build to Mania, she did. A lot of her matches felt like the Brock template of 12-15 taken one further as she added more vulnerability, fantastic bumping along with a great mix of strikes, submissions and an almost unnatural understanding of how to construct a main event match. I really hope she comes back since, even as good as her one year is, I don’t think it’s enough for her to get on but the prospect of her coming back and working the likes of Io, Asuka, Shayna, Bianca and even Mercedes Martinez feels like she could have a top tier run before 2026. "

Discuss here. MoS said: "Extremely short run, but she deserves consideration just for what she did in terms of forcing her way into a Wrestlemania main event, and becoming the first woman in WWE to be the top star of the company. She is not very athletic or fluid, but she is a very good ring general; she knows exactly where to be and how to keep the parts moving. She is also excellent at showing fire and wrestling like she is in the fight of her life. She is one of the best modern wrestlers at incorporating her character into her matches, which keeps the crowd with her. She has a special connection with the fans, which helps elevate her matches into being more memorable, something that stands out in current WWE. "

This thread and her placement was one of the biggest retrospective mistakes of 2016. She's a #1 candidate and look at how little she was discussed? From the late 70s she was head's and feet above almost anyone in wrestling and was forced to retire early. She had a match while in retirement that ruled, and when she finally returned, guess what? She ruled again! Even today she is still really decent, which is kind of insane to think about.

After watching the 80s stuff this time, she blew me away as the greatest babyface worker of all-time. I can't imagine leaving her off my list, but I need to see more 90s to have any idea where to put her.

Have you seen the Meiko match?

Discuss here. Elliott said: "Supremely underrated performer. Was part of a legendary tag team with Kyoko, but I would highly encourage her singles work in the late 90s-early 00s as she was consistently a high level performer. Excellent at working the breakneck style people associate with Joshi. But knew how to sell, work the mat and would hit spinning backfists every bit as violent as Aja Kong. There is no chance I put together a top 100 without Takako Inoue. I still need to fill in gaps for 2003-Present. But based on the strength of 1993-2003 she's a no brainer."

Mark Henry is someone I am going to fight to try to get onto my list. Amazing presence, and once he figured out his character was lights out outstanding until he retired. I love watching him wrestle and totally up my style (he's on the John Tenta level for me).

No links on the board (just write out the three matches)... there is a fancy google doc you can throw anything in (hint: check the Links thread).

Sasha EASILY makes it this time and I have no doubts. Has been one of the best, if not the best, wrestler in the world for 5 years now.

Make any thread you desire in this GWE section to discuss GWE!

Feel free to post these in the Recommendations Docs. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rgl1utpEKF0EBGkV6HgfphF3ODzgceeV7ustiy7GkaM/edit?usp=sharing

Discuss here. From Quentin: "The face of DDT, best worker in company history and still arguably the best worker in the company. One of the best and most consistent wrestlers in Japan for at least 10-11 years that we have proof of. In the top tier of title match workers of the last decade along with fitting in great in any situation you want to plug him in to. Whether that’s having to be adept at comedy stuff, working young, spot heavier guys like Endo and Speedball, grappling with Sakaguchi and Shinya Aoki, or carrying someone like Soma Takao to a career match and at 46, shows no strong signs of slowing down. Didn’t get nominated last time but someone I had pegged for my 100 before realizing he didn’t have a thread."

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Discuss here. From Grimmas: "To me, one of the best babyface wrestlers of the last decade. Tremendously sympathetic, but also very charismatic and fun plus a killer in the ring with some vicious offense. She turned heel and ruled at that as well! Although she has only been great for 5 years and she may or may not be retired, that peak was so great she will make my list."

Kairi Hojo/Sane To me, one of the best babyface wrestlers of the last decade. Tremendously sympathetic, but also very charismatic and fun plus a killer in the ring with some vicious offense. She turned heel and ruled at that as well! Although she has only been great for 5 years and she may or may not be retired, that peak was so great she will make my list. Matches: Kairi Hojo vs Meiko Satomura (Stardom, 2015-06-14) Kairi Hojo vs Io Shirai (Stardom, 2017-03-20) Kairi Sane vs Shayna Basler (WWE Evolution, 2018-10-28)