Grimmas

Here is the list from the last poll in 2016 in alphabetical order. Top 25: Arn Anderson Barry Windham Bret Hart Daniel Bryan Eddie Guerrero Genichiro Tenryu Jerry Lawler Jumbo Tsuruta Jushin Liger Kenta Kobashi Mitsuharu Misawa Negro Casas Nick Bockwinkel Randy Savage Rey Mysterio Ric Flair Ricky Steamboat Shinya Hashimoto Stan Hansen Steve Austin Tatsumi Fujinami Terry Funk Toshiaki Kawada Vader William Regal Remaining of the Top 100: AJ Styles Aja Kong Akira Hokuto Akira Taue Andre The Giant Atlantis Atsushi Onita Bill Dundee Billy Robinson Blue Panther Bob Backlund Bobby Eaton Brian Pillman Brock Lesnar Buddy Rose Bull Nakano Cesaro Chris Benoit Chris Jericho CM Punk Curt Hennig Daisuke Ikeda Dick Murdoch Dick Togo Dustin Rhodes Dusty Rhodes Dynamite Kid El Dandy El Hijo del Santo El Satanico Fit Finlay Giant Baba Greg Valentine Harley Race Hiroshi Hase Hiroshi Tanahashi Hulk Hogan Jack Brisco Jim Breaks John Cena Jun Akiyama Keiji Mutoh Kerry Von Erich Kiyoshi Tamura Kurt Angle L.A. Park Manami Toyota Mick Foley Owen Hart Rick Martel Rick Rude Ricky Morton Riki Choshu Roddy Piper Ron Garvin Sami Zayn Samoa Joe Sangre Chicana Sgt. Slaughter Shawn Michaels Shinjiro Ohtani Shinsuke Nakamura Steve Williams Ted DiBiase Terry Gordy The Destroyer The Undertaker Tito Santana Too Cold Scorpio Tully Blanchard Virus Volk Han Yoshiaki Fujiawara Yoshihiro Tajiri Yuki Ishikawa Others That Received Votes: Abdullah Kobayashi Abdullah the Butcher Ace Rockwell Adrian Adonis Adrian Street Akira Hokuto Akira Maeda Akira Tozawa Akitoshi Saito Alan Sargeant Alberto del Rio Alex Shelley Alexander Otsuka Amazing Red Andre The Giant Andrei Kopylov Angel Azteca Animal Hamaguchi Antonio Inoki Arisa Nakajima Art Barr Ashura Hara Atlantis Atsushi Onita Austin Aries Austin Idol Azumi Hyuga B-Boy Bam Bam Bigelow Barbaro Cavernario Batista Bestia Salvaje Biff Busick Big Boss Man Big Show Bill Dundee Bill Eadie/Masked Superstar Bill Goldberg Billy Graham Bison Kimura Black Terry Blue Panther Bob Armstrong Bob Backlund Bob Orton Jr. Bob Sapp Bobby Fish Bobby Fulton Bobby Heenan Booker T Brad Armstrong Brazo de Oro Brian Kendrick Brian Pillman Bruiser Brody Bruno Sammartino Bubba Ray Dudley Buddy Landell Buddy Rogers Bull Nakano Butch Reed Buzz Sawyer Carl Greco Carl Ouillet Carlos Colon Cassandro Cesaro Chase Stevens Chavo Guerrero Jr. Chavo Guerrero Sr. Chicky Starr Chigusa Nagayo Chikayo Nagashima Chris Adams Chris Candido Chris Colt Chris Hamrick Chris Hero Chris Jericho Chris Masters Chris Michaels Christian Christopher Daniels Ciclon Ramirez Cicloncito Ramirez Cien Caras Cima Clive Myers Col. DeBeers Colt Cabana Combat Toyoda Curt Hennig Cutie Suzuki Daisuke Ikeda Daisuke Sekimoto Dan Kroffat Dan Maff Dave Taylor Davey Boy Smith Davey Richards David Von Erich Dean Allmark Dean Ambrose Dean Malenko Demus 3:16 Dennis Condrey Devil Masami Diamond Dallas Page Dick Murdoch Dick Slater Dick Togo Dolph Ziggler Don Fuji Don Muraco Dory Funk Jr. Dos Caras Doug Furnas Doug Williams Dr. Cerebro Dr. Wagner Jr. Dragon Kid Dream Machine Drew Gulak Dump Matsumoto Dusty Rhodes Dutch Mantell Dynamite Kansai Dynamite Kid Eddie Gilbert Eddie Kingston Edge El Braceo El Canek El Faraon El Felino El Mesias El Samurai El Solar Emilio Charles Jr. Eric Embry Ernie Ladd Espanto Jr. Espectrito Fidel Sierra Flash Flanagan Franz van Buyten Freelance Fritz Von Erich Fuerza Guerrera Fujita Jr. Hayato Gary Albright Gedo Genki Horiguchi Giant Baba Gilbert Cesca Gino Hernandez Go Shiozaki Gorgeous George Gran Apache Gran Hamada Great Sasuke Greg Gagne Greg Valentine Haku Hans Schmidt Hayabusa Hector Garza Hector Guerrero Hiroshi Hase Hiroshi Tanahashi Hiroyoshi Tenzan Hisakatsu Oya Hombre Bala Homicide Honky Tonk Man Hulk Hogan Ian Rotten Ikuto Hidaka Invader I Invader III Io Shirai Iron Sheik Isamu Teranishi Ivan Koloff Jack Brisco Jackie Fargo Jackie Sato Jacques Rougeau Jaguar Yokota Jake Roberts James Mason James Storm Jamie Dundee Jamie Noble Javier Cruz Jay Briscoe Jay Youngblood JBL Jeff Hardy Jeff Jarrett Jerry Blackwell Jerry Estrada Jerry Lynn Jerry Stubbs Jim Breaks Jim Brunzell Jim Cornette Jim Duggan Jimmy Garvin Jimmy Golden Jimmy Havoc Jimmy Jacobs Jimmy Rave Jimmy Snuka Jimmy Valiant Jinsei Shinzaki Joe Cortez Joe Malenko Joey Ryan John Morrison John Tatum John Tenta Johnny Ace Johnny Saint Jose Lothario Judy Martin Jun Kasai Juventud Guerrera Kamala Kana/Asuka Kantaro Hoshino Karl Gotch Katsuhiko Nakajima Katsumi Usuda Katsuyori Shibata Kaz Hayashi Kazuchika Okada Kazunari Murakami Kazuo Yamazaki Kazushi Sakuraba Kazuyuki Fujita Keiji Mutoh Ken Patera Ken Shamrock Kengo Kimura Kenny Omega Kensuke Sasaki Kenta Kerry Von Erich Kevin Nash Kevin Owens Kevin Sullivan Kevin Von Erich Kid Kash Killer Khan Kiyoshi Tamura Kofi Kingston Koji Kanemoto Koki Kitahara Koko B Ware Konan Big Kota Ibushi Kuniaki Kobayashi Kurt Angle Kyle Matthews Kyle O'Reilly Kyoko Inoue L.A. Park La Fiera Lanny Poffo Larry Zbyszko Leo Burke Les Kellett Lex Luger Lioness Asuka Little Guido Lizmark Lou Thesz Low Ki Luke Harper Mad Dog Vachon Magnum TA Makoto Hashi Manami Toyota Manny Fernandez Marc Mero Marcus Alexander Bagwell Mariko Yoshida Mark Briscoe Mark Henry Mark Rocco Marty Jannetty Marty Jones Marty Scurll Masa Chono Masa Fuchi Masa Saito Masaaki Mochizuki Masahito Kakihara Masakatsu Funaki Masashi Aoyagi Masato Tanaka Masato Yoshino Mascarita Dorada Mascarita Sagrada Matt Borne Matt Hardy Matt Sydal Mayumi Ozaki Megumi Kudo Meiko Satomura MEN'S Teoh Michael Hayes Mick McManus Miguel Perez Jr. Mike Awesome Mike Jackson Mike Quackenbush Mike Rotunda Mikey Whipwreck Mil Mascaras Milano Collection A.T. Mima Shimoda Minoru Suzuki Minoru Tanaka Mistico Mitsuhiro Matsunaga Mocho Cota Mr. Fuji Mr. Gannosuke Mr. Pogo Mr. Wrestling II MS-1 Munenori Sawa Naoki Sano Naomichi Marufuji Naoya Ogawa Naruki Doi Natsuki Taiyo Necro Butcher Negro Navarro Neville New Jack Nigel McGuinness Nobuhiko Takada Norman Smiley Octagon Ole Anderson One Man Gang Original Sheik Osamu Nishimra Owen Hart Pat O'Connor Pat Patterson Pat Roach Paul Jones Paul London Paul Orndorff Pequeno Pierroth Perro Aguayo Perro Aguayo Jr. Pete Roberts Phil Hickerson Pierroth Jr. Pimpinela Escarlata Pirata Morgan Prince Devitt/Finn Balor Psicosis Randy Orton Raven Ray Gonzalez Ray Stevems Raymond Rougeau Rayo de Jalisco Jr. Red Bastien Rick Rude Rick Steiner Ricky Fuyuki Ricochet Rikidozan Rip Rogers Rob Van Dam Robert Fuller Robert Gibson Roddy Piper Roderick Strong Roman Reigns Ron Garvin Ron Simmons Ron Starr Rufus R. Jones Rusev Rush Ryo Saito Ryuji Ito Sabu Sami Callihan Sami Zayn Samoa Joe Sangre Chicana Sasha Banks Satoshi Kojima Savio Vega Scott Hall Scott Lost Scott Norton Scott Steiner Sean Waltman Seiji Sakaguchi Seth Rollins Sgt. Slaughter Shane Douglas Shane McMahon Shane Sewell Shaun Tempers Sheamus Shigeo Miyato Shingo Takagi Shinjiro Ohtani Shinobu Kandori Shinsuke Nakamura Shiro Koshinaka Silver King Spike Dudley Spiros Arion Stan Lane Steve Corino Steve Grey Steve Keirn Steve Veidor Steve Williams Sting Super Astro Super Crazy Super Delphin Super Dragon Super Medico Super Porky/Brazo de Plata Survival Tobita Susumu Yokosuka Suwama Taka Michinoku Takao Omori Takashi Sugiura Takeshi Morishima Takeshi Ono Tamon Honda Tank Tarzan Goto Tatsuhito Takaiwa Tatsuo Nakano Terry Gordy Terry Rudge Terry Taylor Tetsuya Naito The Barbarian The Destroyer The Patriot The Rock The Sandman The Undertaker Tiger Mask Timothy Thatcher Tito Santana Tom Prichard Tom Zenk Tommy Dreamer Tommy End Tommy Rich Tommy Rogers Tomoaki Honma Tomohiro Ishii Tonga Kid Tony Anthony Too Cold Scorpio Tor Kamata Toshiyo Yamada Tracy Smothers Trauma I Trauma II Triple H Trish Stratus Tsuyoshi Kikuchi Tsuyoshi Kohsaka Ultimate Warrior Ultimo Dragon Ultimo Guerero Verne Gagne Villano III Villano IV Vince McMahon Virus Volk Han Vordell Walker Wahoo McDaniel Will Ospreay Wing Kanemura Wolfie D YAMATO Yoji Anjoh Yokozuna Yoshiaki Yatsu Yoshihiro Tajiri Yoshihiro Takayama Yoshihisa Yamamoto Yoshinari Ogawa Yoshinobu Kanemaru Yuji Nagata Yuji Okabayashi Yujiro Yamamoto Yuki Ishikawa Yumi Fukawa Yumi Ikeshita Yumiko Hotta Zack Sabre Jr. Zoltan Boscik

I think that is a line that each person has to draw themselves, 3 is the minimum to be nominated, but if 3 is enough for you that is a personal choice.

Looking forward to discussing these things with you!

He was the star of one of my top 10 favourite matches at Survivor Series 89.

A post like this should be for the GWE Podcasts and Publications section. Post other media and projects there.

@elliottis better at this than I, but really the classics have a great widebreath to it, but that's 80s, if you want 90s start with the big shows. Dream Slam, Dream Rush, Big Egg Universe, etc..

Thank you, and this is all settled and will be announced on the launch podcast! You'll be happy with the decision.

I will be tracking that data this time, expect a slower roll out of results, but more details.

Yes, I love everyone on my list, but my list is not ranked on my love level. EDIT: Actually I don't love Flair, I dislike Flair, but I don't feel like I can truly live him off. Atleast at this point.

Lots of Benoit voters last time, so yeah.

Charli is great, so maybe a bad example, but it's not about being objective, it is realizing your favourites are not always the best. There is a difference between liking and greatness and I think that is pretty obvious to most. Otherwise, my #1 is John Tenta and i'll just bow out of discussions for 5 years.

If you want to include it, I'm not going to stop you. I'm seriously okay with the Great Khali #1 voters, as long as they can explain and are comfortable with it. I do not take promos into account, although I do take into account how awful a human being a wrestler is, so maybe I am a hypocrite.

What I prefer and what is the GWE are not the same thing. I prefer Charli XCX to Rolling Stones, that doesn't mean Charli XCX is a better musician.

I really think that depends on what we are talking about, really how much someone drew is an important aspect to being a HOFer, but is it really important for the best performer?

His charisma in ring is out of this world.

If I was forced to choose great promo work/angle and ok match I prefer to great match with a shitty build up.

I 100% agree with this notion.

How do I evaluate a Shinobu Kandori promo? There are a lot of things that go into being a wrestler, like how good your merch is too. I don't know how you can take those things in. With movies/music we don't, not sure why we do with wrestling?

How crowd responds is not a problem at all. If I said differently, I apologize.

The point of wrestling and being an actor is the same, money. Does that mean The Rock is the best wrestler ever and the best actor ever? I would say no, and very few people looking into actors would think The Rock is even a contender for best actor, but you can't deny his boxoffice. Although I don't follow things enough, but is there any critics for music or movies that do their reviews based on the money those things make?

Speaking of which, it's half recorded, I have 3 more guests to record segments with, but yes how to participate, where, and the outline of the project will all be released on that podcast. Not only that, but many guests all talking different aspects of the project, plus looking back at 2016 and looking forward to 2026. Some nice guests indeed, I'm looking forward to everybody hearing it.

Elliot, you know you have to wait for the GWE Launch Party podcast to get those questions answered. Released WrestleMania week.

You came in here and kind of ignored the whole point of the project, so I tried to steer you in the right direction but pointing out the issues with your thinking in relation to this project. If you see that as an attack to push you away, I am sorry. I don't know what to tell you. There is discussions earlier in this very thread about how drawing power and promo ability is not valid. Which, I guess, you clearly ignored. There is no correct criteria for someone to say who is the greatest wrestler ever, but there is wrong things you can look at. How good they talked and how much money they made aren't relevant here. I'd love to have as many voices as possible, but it's up to you. Accept that those things aren't really involved for the reasons I stated and what was brought up earlier in this thread, or, as you put it, retreat back away.

There is no real criteria, but you might want to re-evaluate it yourself. Charisma, okay. How they act, perfect. How they talk? That's kind of like counting movie trailers while rating a movie, that seems off, eh? Also I would recommend not saying I am only going to explore people who speak my language, you can imagine the problems with that. Basically what you are saying is you will be voting for the best movie ever, you will discount any film not made in America and you will count the trailers towards how good the movie is. Does that sound like the tact you want to take?

That's the issue, it creates a bias for people who speak the language you do.