Grimmas

Well, 15 years in now and she's still a top wrestler in the world. Going from pure underdog to vet bad ass looks good on her. Now top matches in two promotions, plus doing well in NJPW, ROH, and wherever, I think she's got an easy top 25, maybe even top 10 case. She's been best in the world contender for what almost a 5-10 years now?

She retired in 2025, so I guess we can have more thoughts on her whole career. She's easily making my list, it seems. Great career as a heel and a face. She was one of the few people who made almost any match feel important and special, and not just another match. One of the best emotional wrestlers ever.

Comment in the thread for Cody

I forgot to post this here, but I wrote up Muraco, finally. https://prowrestlingsuperblog.wordpress.com/2024/11/15/the-magnificent-don-muraco-is-the-greatest-wrestler-ever-plus-his-best-25-matches/

I did rate the 100 best Bret Hart matches a few years ago: https://prowrestlingsuperblog.wordpress.com/category/lists/top-100-bret-hart-matches/

I don't see why being in an easier situation to have great matches and then having great matches means you should be higher than someone in a horrible position to have great matches and still having great matches. To me, input is super important. Bret is currently sitting #4 on my list, and I've tried to drop him, but my stuff is based on my rankings of individual years and other factors and I can't get him much lower than that. WOTY in 94 and 97 and being high throughout the 90s really helps his case.

Based on my formula and method, I currently have: 1 Akira Hokuto 2 Bull Nakano 3 Bret Hart 4 Genichiro Tenryu 5 Chigusa Nagayo 6 Aja Kong 7 Stan Hansen 8 El Hijo del Santo 9 Terry Funk 10 Kyoko Inoue

She's really good at being the power dominant wrestler and can sell pretty well. A good brawler, but her star power and charisma stands out so much that is what people focus on.

Thanks, that update is helpful!

To clarify. If they got a vote in 2016 they are nominated. If they have a thread and there is a comment since 2016, then they are nominated. If a thread exists for someone and there are no comments and they received no votes in 2016, then they are not nominated yet.

Ballots will be a google form link posted April 5th. I'll try to make it as easy as possible.

Sareee currently sits in the top 100 on my list. Being the best wrestler a few years running does that. She's the reincarnation of the classic joshi wrestlers, and it really helps that she works for every company and with everyone giving us so much variety.

HenryHeadCheese Its Me: One of the best few match wrestlers I have seen. He's proabably going to be in the 90s of my list. His selling is amazing! He's also crafty and knows when to place his sneaky attacks. Great emoting. Very smart at using rounds. He is getting me interested in watching more Brazilian wrestling. If anybody has matches I'm missing feel free to share. I could only find 9 matches of his matches on tape. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7K3Vop0Eb1Rvd5G6epz6mmSO48QY99GF&si=qMI-pLX1svZRDVif Match recs vs. Ursus O Bárbaro (GDR, 1980s) vs. Mr. Argentina, Chain Match (GDR, 1987) vs. Michel Serdan, Steel Cage (GDR, 1988) vs. Peão de Rodeio Fonseca (BWF, 1998)

HenryHeadCheese Its Me: A great bumbler and stooge. I feel like I can probably watch any part his over 40+ year career (had a fun match Chief Jay Eagle in 1985 and was fun in GCW Senior Scramble in 1985) and find something where did something unique that was cool and/or made his opponent seem cooler. During my watches/rewatches for this project two of the job guys that stood out the mostt are him and late 80s WWF Buddy Rose. I have great enjoyment for WCW C-Show Squash matches and George South is in a lot of them. He has alot of fun and interesting outside the matches, fun character stuff and some very good competitive matches. The without a mat mini-documentary is also great look Match Recs vs. Chief Jay Eagle (1985) In 4 parts https://youtu.be/7FKhfcsw1K4?si=ypPGB6UxlCvUkgfH https://youtu.be/7BbxxCUDWeY?si=Xn1fEVpl9EgnetVJ https://youtu.be/BS8JvEDtgtE?si=Sydb4nprQXtGRVLF https://youtu.be/Dckrvh8ADD0?si=3oKojTEtf5TpxWgq Vladimir Petrov vs. Alan West, Eddie Roberts & George South (JCP, 1/10/87) https://youtu.be/nXmFnf1uGT4?si=HHiU6tOyxWVxmMGo vs. Ric Flair (NWA WCW, 11/12/88) https://youtu.be/10ih_V2VM3Y?si=2jjAjulcPFYmjcJN vs. Junkyard Dog (WCW, 12/22/90) https://youtu.be/f5OnEqby7CI?si=5ZCQJBzfFTT5SzsH&t=580 vs. Dustin Rhodes (WCW Prime, 2/6/95) https://youtu.be/BhpTdJWCOHY?si=0AZIi2Xuk29kN8V- vs. Jimmy Valiant (SSW, 5/??/02) https://youtu.be/VWOVr0-RdRw?si=0NG20AvIhZ1wb_ml vs. Jake Manning (Without The Mat) https://youtu.be/lYMZ-YEJqyw?si=G5sUQo1Ly7JkcI-i vs. Action Mike Jackson (SCI Rumble, 3/4/23) https://youtu.be/m3lj9kly5F0?si=S1OBVhvlBOmeoUm2 vs. Nick Gage (AML The Day After, 11/27/22)

HenryHeadCheese Its Me said: One of the best comedy wrestlers of all time, he can also play serious and ocassionally angry very well. An all time great mask design and theme too. Very fun, interested in going more in to his Kuishinbo Kamen work too. Alot of fun matches with Ebessan 1/ Kikutaro. Ebessan vs. Kuishinbo Kamen (PWG), 3/7/04 Akira Taue & Kikutaro vs. Kuishinbo Kamen & Namazu Man (Kensuke Office), 8/17/08 vs. Ebessan (Ice Penguin edition), 4/29/09 https://youtu.be/tZ2EbpM4VoI?si=poce8WVCv1CAI3EB w/ Magnitude Kishiwada vs. Kintaro Kanemura & Rikiya Fudo, 3/15/14 https://youtu.be/DP1El4Oduv0?si=Te766AGpdzjHKQVG vs. Mirror Moon (A literal glass bottle), 2/16/18 https://youtu.be/GUo8iBg_TLo?si=qE0pnuvau4gZ5WRM vs. Saorinbo Kamen vs. Poishinbo Kamen, 4/15/18 https://youtu.be/D2M6AqvGDPQ?si=ztrMcdMNZevJqwAL Kuishinbo Kamen & Yuto Kikuchi vs. Kikutaro & Billy Ken Kid, 2024 https://youtu.be/8Nmg825VaKI?si=SFK3QRZhrX1eBKn9

HenryHeadCheese Its Me on discord said: A great regional ace of the Midwest independent wrestling scene. I think even without much being in the midwest wrestling scene, I think his presence comes with feeling like a big deal and often as a technical wrestling overdog. He plays the bad guy so well. He’s so great at the details of wrestling, little things, and ring positioning of wrestling. He also comes off as the kind of wrestler that tries to work to his opponents strengths and making matches feel unique. Remarkable consistently trustworthy on having an at least good match or performance with anybody. He's In one my all time favorite matches ever (#49 on my GME) list vs. Christian Rose, the match that takes during a thunderstorm and power outage with phone lighting in a tournament finals. Hoping to check more of his 3XW, NWL, Saint Louis Anarchy, Journey Pro,and other work. Sample Matches vs. Sharkbait / Anthony Gutierrez, NWL July 2017 https://youtu.be/sjTZwvrkUEE?si=uPvgt769pL_nzRIB vs. Jonathan Gresham - Pure Rules, STL Anarchy, 11/16/18 https://youtu.be/hEFwBAeAiHo?si=rpqA2qESuvb80YCj vs. Nick Gage - No DQ, STL Anarchy, 1/10/20 (on IWTV) vs. Gary Jay- Dingo Invitational Round 1, STL Anarchy, 6/17/22 https://youtu.be/-7RP1ohX93Y?si=PEOfv_X5vCqgGgJt vs. Christian Rose - Tournament Finals Journey Pro, 4/26/22 https://youtu.be/x6mf_fnLMGY?si=o7mL0N89FvJtc_pc vs. Mad Dog Connelly - STL Anarchy, 1/27/23 https://youtu.be/blhW48ceIxQ?si=sUwe-ZaVtXmrUzRt vs. Anaken Murphy - STL Anarchy, 6/29/23 https://youtu.be/G4QeO77WsP8?si=dHnptgd1x90ks2WY

HenryHeadCheese Its Me on discord said: "I just saw our last Rene Ben Chemoul match (it's a range of 25+ matches between 59 and 78) Here's my last thoughts on him for now: He, more than anyone except for maybe Delaporte and Bollet, is simply the perfect French Catch wrestler. The ideal. He carried with him technique, mirth, cleverness, innovation, a deep, deep connection with the crowd and the ability to conduct them. There was elements of the theater or the circus to him, but such deep athleticism and that extra gear that he could take it to when he was getting revenge. He could draw sympathy and could elicit deep belly laughs. He's not going to come off as quite as tough and hard hitting as someone like Corn or LeDuc. he's not as spectacular as Petit Prince or as technical as Saulnier or Mantopolous, but he encompasses the glitz and the glamour and the sheer showmanship of it all, while still possessing all of the skill. I'm not going to say he'd be higher on my list than Corn or LeDuc but I think he represents the spirit and whimsy of French Catch more than them. (It doesn't mean that it necessarily works better for my list, etc., etc.)" - MattD (10/2/22) ". . . He should be nominated. He eats up guys so so so much so I don't think people will go for him but you can't question both the skill and how he represents a mood that feels uniquely french to me and very iconic." - Matt D (8/19/25) https://youtu.be/jWuhTErkFYE?si=XUVySLCtPU6VA2k9 https://youtu.be/xjRKge5L8z0?si=IJ_e5MP_VMT8TxZc Match Recs Rene Ben Chemoul vs. Joachim La Barba (French Catch, 9/20/57) Rene Ben Chemoul vs. Gilbert Cesca (French Catch, 11/26/59) Rene Ben Chemoul & Gilbert Cesca vs Anton Tejero, & Pancho Zapata (French Catch, 3/12/65) Inca Peruano & Anton Tejero vs Rene Ben Chemoul & Walter Bordes (French Catch, 4/21/69) Rene Ben Chemoul & Bob Plantin vs Pierre Lagache & Rene Caballec (French Catch, 4/4/78)

Everyman beer-swilling arsekicker with legendary status in the Mid-West and a no-frills style. Crusher/Greg Gagne v Sheiks (3/25/84) Crusher/Bruiser/Little Bruiser v Mulligan/Lanza/Heenan (11/24/72) Crusher v Bockwinkel (2/3/79)

josephweirdness on discord said: Rapidly making his name as one of the best independent wrestlers of the 2020s. Already amassed an impressive repertoire of matches both on the indies and in smaller TV spots, demonstrating the versatility of his traditionally minded southern rasslin’-esque style. Arguably best in the world in multiple years of the 2020s (some have cited 2022 and 2025), and still actively building a case as both a top championship main eventer and fun midcard enhancement talent on national TV. vs. Anthony Henry (ACTION 1/20/23) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAOZKOEGUQA vs. Slim J (ACTION 4/4/24) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7T5nMIAeEA vs. LaBron Kozone (DPW 12/15/24

josephweirdness on discord said: Longtime tag team partner of nominee Dominic Garrini, and has arguably eclipsed him in stature and output in the 2020s. Had a great title reign as ACTION Champion, several strong outings as a singles wrestler in DPW, and in a variety of styles from more mat-based and striking bouts against the likes of Adam Priest to just out and out bloodfests such as in his Violence is Forever gimmick matches. vs. Adam Priest (ACTION 8/12/22) w/Dominic Garrini vs. The Workhorsemen (DPW 3/26/23) vs. Daniel Makabe (SCI 7/12/24)

josephweirdness on discord said: Best known for the years-long CWF Mid-Atlantic Title reign where he had lengthy epics that probably shouldn’t work as well as they do. Trevor’s the glue holding all those together as well as demonstrating a lot of versatility, whether it’s emphasizing the more comedic aspects of his character in national TV settings or returning to a much more stripped down and grounded style since returning to the independents. vs. Andrew Everett vs. Cedric Alexander (PWG 3/28/14) vs. Andrew Everett (CWF Mid-Atlantic 7/6/16) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFiCScoESwE vs. Jackson Drake (Elevation Pro 7/27/24)

HenryHeadCheese Its Me on discord said: One of the most consistent wrestlers in AEW since appearing. Great at conveying heart, emotion, and charisma. I have watched him live mutiple and he is great live. He has alot of range too. vs. Kevin Bennett (Smash Wrestling, 8/9/19) https://youtu.be/FBziEI4NPNo?si=VQfGSTJoyUud7vZo vs. Kevin Ku (IWTV Family Reunion Part 2,4/8/21) vs. JD Drake (Limitless 5/7/21) https://youtu.be/HmJvijoACqs?si=jjtFxcGrboDs86gW Anarchy in The Arena 1 (AEW, 5/29/22) vs. Konosuke Takeshita (PWG, 7/3/22) vs. Bryan Danielson (AEW, 7/26/22 & 8/17/22) vs. Katsuyori Shibata vs. Orange Cassidy vs. Zack Sabre Jr. (AEW/NJPW, 6/25/23) vs. MJF (AEW, 9/7/24) vs. Mark Briscoe (AEW, 1/4/25)

HenryHeadCheese Its Me on discord said: The head of DDT, constantly very good and in some of my favorite matches of the promotion. Hoping to check out more of his early work especially pre-mainly comedy DDT vs. Munenori Sawa (DDT, 6/28/09) https://youtu.be/v2B6u8Xe8qY?si=65oVcdFcmTeEHZ9X Akebono, Sanshiro Takagi & Touru Owashi vs. Antonio Honda, Hoshitango & Jun Kasai (DDT, 8/18/13) Daisuke Sekimoto, Jun Akiyama & Kota Ibushi vs. Isami Kodaka, Keiji Muto & Sanshiro Takagi (DDT, 8/20/17) vs. MAO (DDT, 7/31/18 & Weapons Rumble - 10/21/18) vs. Hyper Misao (TJPW, 3/19/22) vs. Yuki Ueno (DDT, 6/5/24) vs. Minoru Suzuki (DDT on a train, 6/29/24)

HenryHeadCheese Its Me on discord said: Hoping to watch more of him. Villano V vs. Blue Panther is one of my favorite matches of all time. Foos/Club Lucha uploaded a beautiful video about his career. https://youtu.be/MxVOjs-jp0I?si=qw9d1-_q0J877yX1 As Villano V vs. El Signo (UWA, 3/4/92) https://youtu.be/ABHv4je5xEk?si=-GILYXBty0Ka5ong vs. El Dandy (WCW, 7/17/99) https://youtu.be/9vmgmez_B6k?si=09qlrLP8ucSb_Jgd vs. Blue Panther (CMLL, 9/19/08) https://youtu.be/w3gnttXL1nk?si=Su54fijaHxF310l3 vs. Blue Panther (CMLL, 9/28/08) https://youtu.be/4r8Dk1Wb1jk?si=tBSQLuqi4EJx3PBz vs. Ultimo Guerrero (CMLL, 3/20/09) https://youtu.be/BfUojBwQqwM?si=-QDxhOcCyCJfzPEJ As Ray Mendoza Jr vs. Fit Finlay (WNC, 9/20/12) https://youtu.be/ApHOljXFmco?si=CMUlQTnlKB-EAeh0 vs. Mr. Electro (IWRG, 12/3/17) https://youtu.be/YGoPJwtKsi4?si=CDiNOhuBDfVRcZTa

HenryHeadCheese Its Me on discord said: Hoping to watch more of him, really interesting career spanning 60 years. The Mr. Pogo match stand out in particular. vs, Leon Kirilenko (4/21/51) vs. Mighty Inoue (IWE, 4/11/78) vs. Hector Guerrero (Memphis Wrestling, 1/18/81 vs. Mil Mascaras (AJPW, 9/9/81) vs. Crusher Bones (USA Main Event Wrestling, 1990s) vs. Mr. Pogo (WING, 2/16/92) vs. Tazmaniac (WING, 4/5/92) vs. TAJIRI (SMASH, 12/10/10)