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  1. elliott

    2019 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame

    Dave's obit on JYD is one of the best things he's ever written.
  2. elliott

    2019 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame

    Have Kandori or Megumi Kudo ever been on the ballot? If Hayabusa is on the ballot, Kudo really seems like someone who needs to be considered and looked at. Arn & Tully "w/ JJ Dillon" specifically is weird. So should the Brainbusters run not be considered? Just put the 4 Horsemen on the ballot and be done with it. Wouldn't Tully be a better candidate on his own?
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    My roommate cried during Rampage. It was quite a moment.
  4. I absolutely love this match. I watched all of the 2000/2001 Lucha PPV's a couple of years ago and this was the biggest surprise. I made Matt D watch it a while back and he described it as Lucha's Austin vs Dude Love.
  5. elliott

    Greatest Match Ever Project

    Financial reasons is part of it. AJPW had a streak in Tokyo from like late 1990-1995 or 96 where they sold out every single show. By 1998 that wasn't happening and I'm pretty sure the non-Tokyo shows were down as well. They still did good business, but were not longer automatic sell-outs. As OJ alluded to, I think the main thing people were referencing was staleness. You might not see a huge difference between 1991 AJPW and 1998 in terms of the main event matches. But check out the June Budokan cards from 1991 vs the June 1998 card. June 1991: Ismu Teranishi pinned Mitsuo Momota (9:50). Mighty Inoue pinned Mike Golden (5:59). Joel Deaton & Randy Rose beat Motoshi Okuma & Haruka Eigan (10:38). Buddy Lee Parker & James Earl Weight beat Yoshinori Ogawa & Richard Slinger (12:23). All-Asian Tag Champs Dan Kroffat & Doug Furnas beat Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi (20:58) when Kroffat pinned Kikuchi. Giant Baba, Masa Fuchi, & Rusher Kimura beat Abdullah the Butcher & Giant Kimalas 1 # II (13:03) when Baba pinned Kimala II. Steve Williams pinned Toshiaki Kawada (20:46). Mitsu Misawa pinned Terry Gordy (21:18). All Japan World Tag Champs Stan Hansen & Danny Spivey beat Jumbo Tsuruta & Akira Taue (15:40) when Spivey pinned Taue. June 1998: Takeshi Morishima & Yoshinobu Kanemaru beat Makato Hashi & Kentaro Shiga (9:46). PWF Junior Heavyweight Champ Maunukea Mossman pinned Satoru Asako (10:12). Tsuyoshi Kikuchi & Yoshinori Ogawa beat Gedo & Jado (10:28). Giant Baba, Rusher Kimura, & Mitsuo Momota beat Jun Izumida, Haruka Eigan, & Masa Fuchi (9:35). Steve Williams & Wolf Hawkfield beat Masao Inoue & Takao Omori (14:13) when Williams pinned Inoue. Johnny Smith & Johnny Ace beat Giant Kimala II & David Heath (8:18). Akira Taue beat Bobby Duncum, Jr. Gary Albright & Yoshihiro Takayama beat Tamon Honda & Jun Akiyama (7:15) when Albright pinned Honda. Kenta Kobashi beat Toshiaki Kawada (33:49) to win the All Japan Triple Crown. The 1991 card is much deeper with 4 legitimately interesting looking matches. The 1998 card is a terrible show outside of the main event. We can agree or disagree on the quality of the Kawada vs Kobashi match, but the truth is that match had been run for 5 years by that point so it makes sense that folks would complain of staleness. I wouldn't "blame" the pillars & Akiyama for the staleness of the promotion at all to be frank. It was all about booking. The main event guys did the best they could to keep things interesting. I agree and disagree with OJ about whether or not Baba should have worked with other companies in the late 90s. I would have liked to have seen it as a fan and knowing what we know now about Japan back then (the AJPW split and everyone co-promoting with everyone) they really should have done it. It probably would have helped the key guys stay healthier because instead of Misawa & Kobashi pushing each other further and further in matches to keep things interesting, you'd get Misawa vs Takada or Tenryu vs Kobashi sort of matches where they don't have this history of having 30+ minute matches. But I get the point about business dipping post interpromotional feuds.
  6. elliott

    Greatest Match Ever Project

    Looking forward to your thoughts, OJ!
  7. elliott

    Greatest Match Ever Project

    Fujiwara had as many matches as ric flair. Kandori had as many matches as Steve Austin and Eddie guerrero combined. That's neat
  8. elliott

    Interest in a Puerto Rico watch project?

    Hahahabahahah. Terry is the best. The set includes a Terry promo hyping a match against Invader 1 where Terry promises use his thumb to pop out Invader's eye.
  9. elliott

    Greatest Match Ever Project

    We're going to make it an annual project, so please recommend stuff! I am willing to give anything a shot!
  10. elliott

    Interest in a Puerto Rico watch project?

    I watched every 80s set and had more fun watching PR than any other set. Y'all should make this happen
  11. elliott

    Joshi Wrestling Dates Back to The 1930s

    This is fascinating
  12. elliott

    WON HOF 2018

    No no! This is awesome and exactly what I was hoping for! Thank you so much. I'm still at work so I'll read through this thoroughly in a few hours and I'm sure I'll come back with more questions. Thank you again for taking the time to do a write up!
  13. elliott

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    I can't seem to post in the GWE nominees forum and she doesn't have a thread anywhere else and I don't think this deserves a thread. But has anyone seen much/any 2000s Shinobu Kandori? Looking at some card lists, there's some interesting looking stuff out there: Kandori & Yumiko Hotta vs Etsuka Mita & Amazing Kong 2/16/03 AJW Kandori & Eagle Sawai vs Devil Masami & Kyoko Inoue 8/31/03 Kandori & Sawai vs Chigusa & Kansai 8/31/03 Kandori & Sawai vs Mayumi Ozaki & Kaoru 8/31/03 Kandori vs Meiko Satomura 2/12/07 She seems like someone who would have the strengths to age really well.
  14. elliott

    WON HOF 2018

    Oh cool. I've always thought of CIMA as an interesting candidate just as an outsider. I haven't followed his promotion since the very early 2000s and have only seen a few matches here and there past that. He stands out in my memories of someone who was really great when I watched it, but greater interest in other styles drew me away from him and the promotions he worked in. The few things I've read about him do intrigue me and I'd love to see a detailed case. Was Dragon Gate the #2 promotion in Japan for the entire 15 years? If not, how long was it the #2 promotion? What did they draw on average? What were some of their biggest shows? What are some of the company's biggest/most memorable matches? Was CIMA in all/most/some of them? Was he the undisputed top draw of the company or more of a package with other guys? My impression was always that Dragon Gate was a stable based company with numerous folks cycled in and out of the main events. Was CIMA the fixture? How big are these shows? Recommend me some matches. One of my big disappointments from the Greatest Matches Project is we don't have anyone pimping Dragon Gate stuff. CIMA always stood out in the late 90s and early 00s as one of the most interesting and best of the new wave of juniors. I'd love to see his biggest and best matches. Can you speak more to the importance of this? Please do and thank you!