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That was were I was with AAA. Considering their last few years before they got bought, they could go to hell. The fact WWE has got a bigger piece of the Mexican market and a historical lucha libre promotion sucks, but I have no doubt the product is a 100 times better now than the last few years of legit AAA. Now, how long will this last is another matter.

The one thing I loved above everything about Hansen, is that this mofo never ever stopped doing stuff. He would fill every little space between spots with a petty kick here, a bitchslap there. Must not have been always fun working against him. And yeah, I used against on purpose.

Nothing screams like the biggest show of WWAAA thus far headlined by two non-Mexican guys doing a parody of a luchador against each other. (and yeah, I know, it's really popular with the current AAA audience, which is comprised of basically WWE fans)

Inoki died. That's why.

One of the most telling stat for me is Liger getting on only 72% of ballots while Rey is on almost 90%.

For the longest time I was annoyed by the 619 spot, which I found absolutely stupid. I don't care anymore (haven't for a long while). I also don't care about Rey Rey's career post WCW apart from the few times he showed up in LU because the guy spent 25 years in WWE, so him being a great TV worker in the worst pro-wrestling TV ever means nothing to me. I would not have voted for him this high, but I understand he made the top 10.

The one thing about Misawa is that he had exceptional matches with the 4-5 same people. And when he was working against different kind of workers, especially later on, he was basically Randy Savage in 1996. I do have a soft spot for old-ass Misawa with bad facial hair and beer gut, moving like a cat still and dropping people with mean elbows.

I kinda made that point about Masata Tanaka way earlier in the thread, but people weren't convinced about it... (in jest, somewhat, mostly. Wait, was I ?)

Jeeez

Austin has to drop next. Plus, it would be poetic just after Bret. Top 5 is gonna be Rey, Kobashi, Danielson, Funk and Flair (not in that order).

So Bret was *really* my first favorite. I liked some wrestlers before (Tito, Perfect, Valentine), but I think I really became aware of what great pro-wrestling was with Bret Hart in 1991/92. Then came Flair and Micheals (and Savage coming back in the middle of this). Yeah, no shit I like what I like to this day.

Where's that "Jumbo was Kurosawa, Misawa was Ozu" (or something) analogy when you need it.

Kawada would never.

Kobashi was the ace of NOAH. It's more "recent" too.

Wow. Misawa hanging by a thread. Hope Eddie Kingston doesn't see this.

Oh yeah, like I said, this Top 100 list is most probably the best and the most "balanced" of the three. I said conservative in the sense none of the all time great of the last 15 years made the top 10. I thought Tanahashi had a good shot. (but on the other hand, I'm surprised Omega actually made it this high considering the landscape of the voters)

These kids these day don't know how to have fun anymore. It's all toxic positivity.

That too. The one thing I heard about Bret Hart recently that was really interesting to me, was Meltzer mentioning how Bret Hart was the very first worker he heard referring to himself as an artist. And that's *really* interesting, especially considering when I came into pro-wrestling (just during the last legs of Hulkamania, when Bret was becoming the IC champ).

From what I've browsed rapidly, the one week of reveal when I was off was 80% whiny bitching™ about modern names making it too high, so I'm not sure the discussions would have been really interesting during the process, really. 😎 Then again, let's be real. The reveal of every GWE has been about bitching about the results, dating back to 2006. That's kinda always been the modus operandi of this sorta thing, really.

More recent workers, basically. Okada, Tanahashi, Omega. The other two in the top 10 I managed to do for shits and giggle would have been Tamura (the shoot-style guy, not Yoshiko) and Hokuto. And then the other "boring" 5 I mentioned. From the list I've seen, there's plenty of non-boring top 10. Hell, I think my imaginary top 10 is actually a lot more boring than a lot I've seen. But less so than the end result. Well, establishing a canon and a norm is indeed boring. The individual experiences of people are much more interesting.

They really could not bleed in NYC because commissions are still a thing. Which is the most ridiculous thing ever. I thought the main event, although absolutely a great match, needed that *one* false finish where everybody really thought Darby was actually winning, to really put it over the top, and I feel like it did not had that. Minor quibble, really. The Kevin Knight turn was really well done, as it really was half-way predictable, but only in a way where you could see it happen *just before* it happened, because of how Knight had been acting in the previous weeks, with the almost exaggerated, performative positivity.

🙃

Ric Flair basically threatening to sue his own son David for the wrongful use of his "trademark" is quite amazing, if not that surprising, considering it's been a long while now that it should be obvious to everyone how much of a failure as a human being Ric Flair is.

OMG this is happening. 5 months old tapings coming to Youtube. (the return of MLW Fusion before GTA VI, amazing)

4 weeks before Slammiversary, they have sold barely more than 1200 tickets thus far and they have NO CARD yet. Delirious & Dreamer are reaching legendary status in the tier list of horrible bookers. It makes the astroturfing of last year even funnier in retrospect. The latest news about how they didn't want Leon Slater to beat the X-division record (which is still hold by Austin Aries of all people) because they feel he's a goner as soon as his contract ends (and now the word is "either WWE or AEW" rather than "100% sure WWE" apparently) is the most TNA thing ever.