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Yeah, that is interesting. Footage showing up is nice. But if no ones watching it, well... Exactly the same reason why joshi does badly now. The footage is over there, but no one's watching anymore. I'm guilty of it as much as anyone both for lucha and joshi BTW.
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Jerry Lynn is my #92, and with all the TNA stuff that adds up, he would have been higher. He had his flaws, but who doesn't. Had so many good to excellent matches with so many people and was smarter than it seems when you just don't pay attention. Terrific worker. I know Gino Hernandez has been helped a lot by NWAClassics it seems, which I don't watch, but man his work in WCCW was the shit. I guess he was already too cocked up by then. Dick Slater, I dunno. My favourite feud part of his career his Mid-South with Dark Journey. Never struck me as better than solid at best, and the Terry Funk obsession was actively distracting at times.
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He looked like a giant rat lately, so it's not surprising. When you treat your body like that, well... I hate his gimmick which consisted of bashing someone's head as hard as he could with a chair. It was awful and dangerous and certainly caused tons of concussions and brain cells loss. What's even stupider is that the guy could have been a good worker, as showed whenever he tried to actually work. Talented guy ruined by a shitty gimmick and a junkie lifestyle.
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What would be interesting is the result of the 2006 voters, to see how we have evolved actually (or rather, what the rest of us thinks now).
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Me too actually ! I thought he would have dropped way earlier with my only #100 vote. I love Raven even more now that I'm watching his TNA work BTW. And yeah. That Jarrett quote. After watching WCW 99-01 and as I'l going through early TNA, the "super smart worker" stuff had me rolling, as he instead shows terrible instinct at times.
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Yes. Those *matches* are really good. Thanks to the Funks, Brody (yes) and Stan Hansen. Whenever Snuka gets in, it's like "fuck no ! tag out !". Having a bad match with Ricky Steamboat in the 80's (well, at anytime really) is inexcusable. Even the fucking Sheik had a better match with Steamboat.
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Like I said before. I'm shocked and delighted.
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Post prime. Snuka from late 70's till 83-84 was pretty damn great. Fuck no. He was so boring in All Japan during that time. Hell, when Brody is carrying your ass as a tag-team partner, you suck. The 1-2 punch of Booker/Chavo pics cracked me up.
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Snuka. Our first murderer of the night. Him at #13 is insane too, as he more than often sucked dick. He had a cool finisher for the time, but damn was he nothing otherwise.
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Kroffat ! My #57, and I thought I would have been the high vote on him. His work in All Japan is just amazing. Went to the US too late, and was never booked in a way that favored his rather dull look, although he was a terrific dickhead. That pic is glorious too. 13th of my list off. Funny quote from him, talking about his tag partner Doug Furnas "He looks like a Greek god. I just look like a Greek." I'm kinda amazed and delighted my #100 has not showed up yet.
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Taker has *a lot* of brutal matches. It's funny how he got that rep of super worker because of a bunch of self-conscious epics at Mania.
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So, I should keep on watching TNA until I get to that crowning point, is that what you're implying ?
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NWA-TNA 2003 aka a passive-agressive way to deal with depression
El-P replied to El-P's topic in Pro Wrestling
PPV 32 Well, the last part of this PPV was quite decent. AJ Styles vs Jeff Jarrett was a good Nitro main event. Jarrett worked pretty hard but he’s definitely not a main-eventer, there’s something about him that just keeps things from getting really dramatic. Doesn’t help either that he gets booed as a babyface against heelish AJ Styles, who’s work here is impeccable, totally working along to Jeff’s strenghts and pacing. Still, pretty much a my turn-your turn match with overbooking galore at the end, with no less than six run-ins : Zbyszko to help Styles by cheating, JJ Dillon to get him out of there, the Harris nazis to fuck Jarrett, Vader (yeah, Vader !) to beat them up, Dusty to help Vader and finally Siaki & Desire to screw Jarrett. Larry Z. and Siaki really would have been enough. And the Stroke is such a terrible looking finish despite AJ Styles making it as good as it can be. Raven & Low-ki vs Sandman & Steve Corino was a good little ECW on TNN main event, with Low-ki looking really tiny but also working very well with those guys. Some interesting twists by Raven on his requisite drop-toe-hold on a chair spot. Sandman also took part in quite a decent segment called The Interrogators where Tenay & West drop short questions and word associations for 60 seconds. And Raven had a decent little promo earlier on too, tying up stuff with the old ECW storyline. These guys are saving the show from… …more SEX garbage, including more Harris Boys boredom in a tag tournament match against AMW. Still no brackets and only one match this week. More Disco Inferno fantasy booking. Amazing that they actually turn their own suckiness (talking about Russo & Gilberti) into actual characters and angles, which of course actually suck too. And worst of all, in a typical Russo fashion, getting some Tough Enough reject called Jonah so they can actually promote WWE’s TV. Plus woman with big boobs treated as a sex object. Whatever. Everything Gilberti and Sanders have been involved with has been complete garbage. And in a great moment of booking fuck up, Jerry Lynn who won an X-division title match the previous week gets a shitty triple-threat with both SATs, while Paul London who was defeated by Jerry Lynn is getting an X-division title match. Clap clap clap. The jokes writes themselves. So, London vs Kash was very indierrific and full of contrived spots with usual Kash sloppy-as-fuck-ness, but it’s obvious London has potential already. Trinity doesn’t do a moonsault. The undercard mostly sucks, the booking sucks, but the main event scene with AJ Styles & Raven thrown in just makes thing much better as long as Russo isn’t too involved. The X-division has become an afterthough though at this point, so what made TNA’s identity in the first months is gone. And Jarrett should turn heel tomorrow, kick-ass babyface just doesn’t work at all for him. 2003/02/19 Sandman & Steve Corino vs Raven & Low-ki 2003/02/19 AJ Styles vs Jeff Jarrett -
That picture of Kevin von Erich ! I always though he looked creepy, but this takes the cake. More evil and scary than the Devil.
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Thanks I second Dan, I like what I see of your list.
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Way too many to think about one. However, Shane McMahon vs Undertaker was a disaster of epic proportion, all to get an idiotic New Jack spot. Just awful on every level.
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I don't listen to podcasts. And that's a terrible news. Booo ! I don't remember how Hogan did last time. Probably not too good.
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I was away when you made the announcement so I'm just seeing this. Best thoughts to you ! You'll have that fucking crab do the job ! Courage !
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Goldberg, ah ah ah. The guy had like three really good matches in his career. Can we get rid of Hogan & HHH already BTW ?
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NWA-TNA 2003 aka a passive-agressive way to deal with depression
El-P replied to El-P's topic in Pro Wrestling
Hey, I just selected one of his matches. The story about Russo wanting to put Gowen in SEX is pretty telling, indeed. What a moroon. PPV 31 Curt Hennig is dead. Boots, picture and ten count inside the ring. This was the most enjoyable show in a long while. Sure there was still a lot of crap, but also some legit good stuff, and some cool people showing up. Gotta put aside all the SEX stuff, which sucked as always, especially all the matches involving the Nazis Brothers, BJ James, Disco & Sanders. Bullet Bob is out, JJ Dillon is in, so we get more rambling about old WWF and WCW stuff no one gives a fuck about. Tenay interviews David Flair, yawn. Funny how Tenay always comes off as somewhat of an asshole in those segments. I’m actually getting used to the Sonny Siaki & Desire act, as at least Desire jumping in left and right gives the matches some sort of dynamic, plus she isn’t afraid to bump. Siaki is still the dullest Prince Iaukea ever. So of course, now he has to lose that belt. Damn. The match against Kid Kash was actually somewhat decent until the awful botched finish. No idea how Kash didn’t break his neck here. Damn, and he wins the X-title. Trinity didn’t even get to do a moonsault. AMW & Rock’n Roll Express had another decent match, with Ricky looking solid again. Chris Harris is clearly the lesser worker of the team aka the Robert, but he's good at executing impressive power spots. BTW it’s a tag-team tournament to face XXX for the lifted title. No brackets showed. Hello again WCW ! TNA was all about former WWF & WCW guys talking past issues, now it’s time for ECW to show up. Both the Sandman & Steve Corino in the same show. Corino cuts a really solid promo, old-school style, on Low-ki and they work a very japanese style, stiff back and forth match. Cool stuff, although it doesn’t quite get over that much (crowd is pretty apathetic during the whole show) and the DQ finish was stupid as hell. Sandman canes everyone in sight and Raven is disgusted that this guy follows him everywhere, so we get a really good garbage brawl by two old ECW favourites of mine. This just never gets old and it’s actually worked quite well. Raven is in the best shape of his life too. The post-match beatdown by SEX is useless, and Jarrett playing Steve Austin just doesn’t ring true at all. But Raven & & Low-ki vs Sandman & Corino in a post ECW match ? Yeah, I’m all for it. Finally, the debut of Paul London too, with whom Jerry Lynn has a cool little match at the end of a rather useless gauntlet elimination match with a bunch of jabronies. London looks so early 00’s indy it’s ridiculous. No idea why anyone thought that look was a good idea, it’s so dull. Anyway, post match sees Konnan cut an interesting promo on Lynn, going back to him « posturing » as a luchador in WCW. The SATS are with Konnan. Damn, this angle was kinda promising, hopefully they get actual good luchadors instead. And the funniest moment of the show, after Raven’s interview with Goldilocks talking about Sandman (which started a few seconds too late), a car shows up and AJ Styles takes a bit too long to get out and jump on Raven, who has the time to drop the line « Apparently AJ Styles can’t get out of a car ». Totally cracked me up. 2003/02/12 Steve Corino vs Low-ki 2003/02/12 Raven vs Sandman -
I had Jannetty at #81. So many good comebacks during the 90's. He deserved a better career. Don't do drugs. Oh, and I pondered about putting him ahead of Michaels. In the end, he's below, but not by much.
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I loved, LOVED Gannosuke. Rewatching all of FMW a few years ago, that love just got stronger. #49. Best FMW worker ever. On a larger stage, he would have overshadowed a lot of the main promotion heavys (New Japan, I'm looking at you, then AJ after Misawa & co departed) and would have got a lot bigger body of terrific matches. Still, he was indy sleaze at its most noble. Wonderful pro-wrestler. And he was part of that IWA Bathhouse deathmatch, which is the most absurd and awesome thing ever. Glad he got a super high vote too.
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Yeah and ended up that high. Seems like an odd choice. I guess some people really do love APA. Simmons was pretty good in Doom. I dunno. Yeah. Odd choice. On a top 100 promo guy, Bullet Bob would have got a high spot from me.
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Killer Khan = Great Match Theory.
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I take that over a gazillion punches a match anyday.