Matt D
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That would take getting some fat guys with actual characters and not cookie cutter well built guys with short tights and crew cuts. It won't happen in the current environment. Back to Vickie, this is actually the one way I think she'd work as Bobby Heenan. Give her all the cookie cutter well built guys with short tights and crew cuts. Give her four or five of these guys and have it look like she's trying to turn the WWE into this drab kingdom of these guys for her own personal reasons.
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I tend to see her more with one guy than with a whole stable (Though I know she was with Chavo, Edge, Ryder/Hawkins at one point but did she actually come out with the Edgeheads for their matches?). I also think Cole would be somehow fresher and it'd get him out of the booth which is desperately needed.
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Well the the problem becomes a reluctance to use managers, no? 2011 could be centered around Cena vs Cole and his stable of disposable heels, but I feel like they'll never pull the trigger on that and take him out of the booth.
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I'm dubious about this. Rock'll be gone in a month and Cena will still be here to carry the company, albeit in a terribly damaged form. If this is the way they finally turn him (or really create a Bret situation where he's a heel to any male over 14 and a face to anyone under, explicitly), then that's one thing, but it's like bringing in the travelling NWA champ in the 70s-80s and having him make all your local guys look like worthless chumps instead of contenders that JUST missed the goal.
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That's why I like my explanation better. It hurts my head less. The Bischoff turn was over Piper and just a short while away, right?
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He's also a guy who put a TON of work into his craft. That was obvious. I think Randy "30 page faxes to Steamboat and the Ultimate Warrior" Savage was in some ways the PERFECT opponent for him. I also love the idea that the Outsiders were the MYSTERIOUS BENEFACTOR.
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I thought this made sense storyline wise as Bischoff, secretly part of the NWO, wanting to make Piper look like an ass.
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Dave made a typo, it was UFO. Thanks. There are obviously mysterious hints to the future in Dave's Observer typos.
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How about "Signature Spots" instead?
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From THE LAST OBSERVER EVER: The April 85 one where he announced that he was done and talked about Mania: "Northwest Champ Karl Steiner wrestled throughout Europe and East Canada as Bob "UFC" Dellaserra." So what did the UFC stand for?
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I still think the match ought to be Taker/Sting vs Kane/Barrett which ties up all the loose ends from last year nicely. If they want to give Jackson a rub too they can add Nash in as the third guy. Have Sting work FIP. Or hell. They could just have a supermatch with Taker/Sting/Nash/Show vs all of Corre and Kane. Just a feel good thing.
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It says something about the FORMAT. Trying to get ratings every week twice a week and giving away all the matches seven times over on monthly PPVs means that anything different is appealing on some level.
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It's the schemey promoter going "Neeehhhh, all the marks root for an underdog just like them! Nehhhhh." while stroking his handlebar mustache and counting the cash. And it's a sucker bet from the promoter's POV because no lower-card guy has ever won it. In my head, Kayfabe Vince (MR. McMahon) was sweating bullets for a second when Santino came out of nowhere. Granted, they could just do to him what they (Was it Bock in 96?) did to DDP after he won Battlebowl.
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I feel like I'm stuck in 1993 right now. That and 1985.
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I would have loved this just to hear Bryan and Dave's reaction, after they complained that WWE may f*ck with the integrity of the Royal Rumble gimmick by having some jobber win it and then get screwed out of the title shot in their Rumble preview. The integrity of the Royal Rumble? It's already ridiculous enough that the act of throwing someone out of the ring makes you good enough to face the world champion on the biggest show of the year, as opposed to, you know, beating several top contenders for several months. If we're going to talk Kayfabe, then I think the fact that it's the #2 PPV draw of the year, most years, and usually by a large margin at that, is more than partially based on the "Anyone can win" element. Even if everything was real (or in this case logical), Vince calls his wrestlers entertainers. The object isn't to have a fair athletic competition. It's to make money by forcing modern day gladiators to compete with one another in a relatively (and admittedly) corrupt environment. Within the "WWE UNIVERSE" logic, what draws is more important than what's fair, and the anyone can win element of the Rumble draws.
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Whenever I disagree with a Brit about anything, I just shake my head sadly and blame Maggie Thatcher. I doubt that applies here though.
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Poor Chris Masters didn't even get on that list of 20underrated WWE guys.
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Am I the only one that feels sort of weird when I'm watching old NWA and see him with that belt?
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I never understood that mindset, even a little. I wonder how much of a role Miz's success played into that. He's clearly a huge fan and used that as part of his motivation. Also seeing how the wrestlers who were hired during the "no fans" period clearly had no passion for the business, and either quit or just gave up until they got endeavored probably played a part too. It's probably a little harder to find people who want to get into wrestling who aren't fans these days. During the boom it had to be a lot easier, no? Now you sort of have to be a mark for the business for wanting to head that way instead of doing something with MMA or what have you. Or at least that's my generalization for today.
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I think there is room for different sorts of heels on different parts of the card. On that same show that Macho came in to USWA, Scotty Flamingo came in too and did a little rap about what he was going to do with Jarrett that wasn't very respectful but it still made the crowd want to see Jarrett crush him. A much better example is chickenshit Brian Christopher who would call out Lawler and say that he was old and washed up and useless and that he'd crush him and then the second that they both got in the ring, Christopher bailed. That's effective too, because it proves things through actions, ones that contradict the words.
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I realize that they weren't ever going to do this, but for some reason I really wish we had gotten to see a Four Horsemen of Ric, Hennig, Mongo, and Benoit with Arn in the 93 Ole role and Dibiase in the J.J. Dillon role. -
Interesting notes/tidbits/BS found in the PWT Wrestling Observer scans
Matt D replied to goc's topic in Newsletter recaps
What a difference two months make. After all the doomsaying and really LAUGHING at WWF in the January 85 issue, the early March 85 one starts off the WWF section with: "The WWF is riding the crest of about the biggest wrestling wave in more than a decade and for the most part drawing exceptionally well." He then calls the 3/31 MSG show (Wrestlemania) a "farce," says the MTV thing went off AMAZINGLY, and then, finally finally makes the statement that Hogan is an awful wrestler. It gets better. In talking about WWF's new videos (and the Best of series), he wonders how they can do it without Slaughter or Backlund matches. "In retrospect, Bob really wasn't a disgrace to the title, at least compared to the current champ." Ouch all around. -
I haven't seen this for a while now but I remember that Hogan was having the time of his life doing the stalling heel thing at the beginning. He seemed to be just having a blast.
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My favorite thing was Rotunda getting upset because he wanted to use the mini ladder in the Raw MITB match but they had already used it in the Smackdown one. I didn't even realize he was a Raw agent. I thought he was training the kids down at FCW.
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Nothing says "hey this is legit" more than a guy overselling Ted Jr. like that.