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Matt D

DVDVR 80s Project
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  1. The big problem I have with this mindset is that us 2011 nitpicky bastards have a lot of matches from the same era that are still (or even "newly") considered great both relative to the Sayama vs DK ones and relative to matches of today. I feel like that aspect is being undervalued here. Everything is being held to the same standard and a lot of things DO hold up.
  2. All of this stuff is well and good and important in understanding the context of the match, but when I'm watching something in 2011, what matters to me is how I feel about it in 2011. I could see how there could be an issue if there wasn''t a litany of 80s matches that I absolutely love when watching them today. But there are. Yes, sure the wrestlers weren't intending the matches to be watched on a computer 25 years later on a little portable HAL. I get that. Who the hell cares? It's an exercise in pointless delusion to try to pretend it's 1985 again when watching something. Honestly, considering that using the same criteria a lot of people around here judge a lot of 80s matches above the matches of today (perhaps just not some of the ones that people went crazy for at the time), I'm not even sure why this is an argument. Actually, considering the initial issue was "all 80s matches are terrible," then yeah, I get it there, but with this board?
  3. I love that video package. It's perfect.
  4. The Fink promo is amazing and LONG. And then Bruno was so super over. It's just a surreal segment all around.
  5. That entire USWA ep is great. Doink came out at least 3 times including the just astonishing squash tag match with Christopher (Did that make the comp? I'm just talking from seeing this stuff on justin.tv a few months ago). I really felt like Borne felt like he could cut loose down there in a way he couldn't up North.
  6. The conspiracy theorist in me points to Hunter and Steph.
  7. My Arn fantasy booking is always in early 90 used (w/Heenan) instead of Hennig vs Hogan, with a storyline based over limbwork destroying the ability for Hogan to hit the legdrop. Obviously he would have resigned in this case.
  8. Of course. I doubt Woman will ever go in although she would deserve it on her career only, but that would open a can of worms the WWE won't touch with a ten foot pole. Chyna will never go in for obvious reasons although she was a hot act for a while. Sable, well, unless they work something out with brock at some point, I doubt it, but she could eventually. Liz and Luna, I doubt they ever will. Madusa has no shot. Trish really was more important than Sunny to the WWE I think. But hey, like Loss said, it's all about marketing. I wonder who can induct Sunny though... I'm guessing Cornette is out of the picture? I really want Ron Simmons to do it for some reason but I think either a Diva (Trish/Kelly Kelly/Eve) or Tom Pritchard would be the way they go with it.
  9. Sunny feels like "The First Diva." in a way that Elizabeth, Sherri, and Sable do not. That's almost enough to get her in right there, kayfabe-wise.
  10. There should totally be a Tito vs Weird opponents comp with Lawler, Undertaker, Flair, and Windham on it. I can't wait to check that match out later.
  11. Lombardi makes it in some day, I'm sure.
  12. I'm going to be wildly disappointed if Taker doesn't come out on a horse at Mania now.
  13. Matt D

    AWF

    http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/awf/ This says 30, which is a good many more than what's on the DVD i think.
  14. Matt D

    AWF

    Anyone interested in AWF should probably get this. http://www.amazon.com/Warriors-Wrestling-T...a/dp/B0007YMVOC It's 810 mins for 12 bucks.
  15. Didn't they just bring Scott back as a ref?
  16. Tito used to hate it when a heel wanted to outwrestle him at the beginning of a match because wrestling, to him, was "Shine, heat, comeback." And the heat had to start with the heel cheating to get an advantage. (and hey, this would be another good topic to spin out!)
  17. I don't even begin to have a valid opinion on anything in this note, but I would like to see this spun out into its own note, I think. Also, I think that Dan's comments back on the top of the last page should be spun out too, but that's just me.
  18. Valentine had that face run in 91 WWF too. He turned after Jimmy screwed up a match he had with Saba Simba.
  19. Matt D

    Wrestlemania XXVII

    Do we know if HBK is going to be the ref for this? I feel like that's the only way for it to have any real interest. If that's the case, then he only signed his contract a few months ago, right?
  20. Darsow claims that it probably wasn't bad drawing which did Graham in since the territory was starting to pick up again a little when it happened.
  21. Matt D

    Wrestlemania XXVII

    The Creative Recall guy claims that Taker vs HHH was on the books since last August. I am skeptical of that.
  22. Sunny JUST had a "Where are they now?" feature on WWE, so they've at least had contact with her in the last month or two. She said she wanted to do an angle with Vickie, for what it's worth.
  23. You obviously forget about this: part 1: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8j843_te...erts_shortfilms part 2: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8j939_te...erts_shortfilms
  24. It amazes me a little more everyday how little I actually know about the history of pro wrestling in the 80s. I grew up with it in MA starting in 90 and by then there really was just WWF and WCW and a hint of GWF for me and later on ECW. I've been going through old observers and listening to a lot of shoots lately and one thing has come up a few times and I'm curious just how much we know about it. Eddie Graham's Florida Championship Wrestling was one of the top territories in the early 80s. They had a big show at the Orange Bowl. Dusty felt like he got screwed on the house/payoff. He went to a two-bit Crockett promotion that had been barely drawing, taking a big chunk of the Florida talent with him and shortly thereafter raiding some of the Mid-South talent. Florida Championship Wrestling withers. Eddie Graham kills himself. Various owners/bookers come out of the woodwork, including Dusty and take charge of the company/booking. JCP prospers. I've pulled this together from Barry Windham, Bill Dundee, and Billy Jack Haynes shoots, mainly. I would not call this the best oral history of wrestling I could possibly get. Do we know much more of the puzzle?
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