goodhelmet Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Loss and I talked about a tag team tournament to see who is the best tag team. Regardless of who is listed, I do think we should wait until Loss comes back from vacation to start the tournament. I have a few questions I want to throw out.... Who should be in the tournament? Should we limit the promotions the tag-teams wrestled in? Should we be all-inclusive and allow foreign tag teams (ie Kawada & Taue, Kojima & Tenzan) as well? Should we have a certain cut-off date so we don't nclude tag teams most of us have probably never seen? If you have any other suggestions, ideas, or comments, feel free to post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I'd do WWF from 85-2005, like the last one. Teams (I'm going to list all that I can think of off the top of my head before I lose patience with it): British Bulldogs Dream Team Hart Fondation Shiek and Volkoff US Express Killer Bees Strike Force Demolition Powers of Pain Bushwhackers Mega Powers (this is iffy) Rockers Brainbusters Rougeau Brothers Rhythm and Blues Nasty Boys LOD Natural Disasters Money Inc. Orient Express Power and Glory Studd and Bundy Steiner Brothers Head Shrinkers Smoking Gunns Yoko and Owen Heavenly Bodies Bodydonnas Godwins Headbangers Furnas and LaFon New Blackjacks Owen and Bulldog New Age Outlaws Rock n Sock Connection APO Hardy Boyz Edge and Chritian Dudley Boyz Too Cool X-Pac and Road Dogg Billy and Chuck La Resistance That's enough for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I'd also add the following: Owen & Davey Boy Furnas & LaFon Benoit & Jericho Austin & HHH Undertaker & Kane Ric Flair & Batista Edge & Rey Misterio Jr Los Guerreros Booker T & Goldust Chris Jericho & Christian Shawn Michaels & Diesel Chris Benoit & Kurt Angle Chris Benoit & Edge Undertaker & Kane Mankind & Kane Rob Van Dam & Kane And more I'm sure I can think of later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I had these two list already: Owen & Davey Boy Furnas & LaFon And with that I'm off to my job interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffey Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Eh, the way I see it, if your team wasn't good enough to have a tag team name, you shouldn't be in the tag team tournament. I know I'm not going to vote Owen & Davey over anyone like The Bushwhackers or The Legion of Doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I strongly disagree with that. Owen and Davey Boy had far better matches as a team than the Bushwhackers or LOD did in the company in the time frame. There were plenty of long-term tag teams that didn't have team names that were still quite good. Not every team I mentioned here was long-term, but they all had memorable runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I really don't want to just limit this to just WWF tag teams. For key parts of its history, WWF has neglected its tag team division and many of those teams on the list shouldn't even be u for consideration. So, for argument sake, here is a list of possible NWA/WCW tag teams... Sheepherders Fantastics Fabulous Ones Midnight Express Rock N Roll Express Road Warriors The Koloffs Tully and Arn Freebirds Luger and Sting Varsity Club Steiners Harlem Heat Benoit and Malenko Outsiders Raven and Kanyon Hennig and Windham Nasty Boys Southern Boys Windham & Rhodes Dangerous Alliance Hollywood Blondes Meng and Barbarian Three Count O'Hare and Palumbo Bagwell and Luger Mysterio and Kidman Ole and Arn Anderson Terry Gordy and Steve Williams Doom Samoan Swat Team Pillman and Zenk The Mulkey Bros ( !!! ) Steamboat & Douglas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Good WCW/NWA list. Unless there are some big Totally Buff fans in the house, I might replace them with Windham and Garvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Regardless of what promotion or group we decide on, I am invoking executive privilege and requesting that the Mulkeys get a bye in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Well, they did beat the Gladiators. If they get included, I demand that the New Breed be included as well, if for no other reason than referring to Dusty Rhodes as "Mr. President". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 While we're at it, what happened to Los Conquistadores? They had a great comeback in 2000 and defeated the Hardyz for the tag titles, but that biased commissioner Mick Foley ordered a loss EDGE AND CHRISTIAN had to the Hardy Boyz the following night to be a way to give the Hardyz their titles back. Los Conquistadores were obviously so upset by this miscarriage of justice that they completely left wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Eh, the way I see it, if your team wasn't good enough to have a tag team name, you shouldn't be in the tag team tournament. I know I'm not going to vote Owen & Davey over anyone like The Bushwhackers or The Legion of Doom. Funny. I just watched Owen/DBS vs. Austin/HBK from RAW in 1997 last night, and it blows away anything those other two teams did in the promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Anyone else remember when WWF.com asked for suggestions in 1999 to name the Owen/Jarrett tag team because they couldn't figure out a good name for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Yep, I do. IIRC, they even had suggestions of names with some of the silliest ones I've ever heard, like "Puppies and Nuggets" or something along those lines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 While we're at it, what happened to Los Conquistadores? They had a great comeback in 2000 and defeated the Hardyz for the tag titles, but that biased commissioner Mick Foley ordered a loss EDGE AND CHRISTIAN had to the Hardy Boyz the following night to be a way to give the Hardyz their titles back. Los Conquistadores were obviously so upset by this miscarriage of justice that they completely left wrestling. Los Conquistadors probably should've received more attention as far as the Tag Team of the Year award goes, but sadly, the rubes were sucked in by the garbage style of a team like the Dudleys. It's really sad, since Los Conquistadors wrestled a far more sophisticated style and the WWF ran more on the Dudleys and Hardys. Look where it got them too, as the tag division (both of them) is pretty dead right now, and that style of wrestling really hurt them in the long run. What really disappoints me is how that team disappeared. If you're going to break up the team or get rid of them, then do something with those guys in singles competition. Personally, I don't know about you, but Uno had the look of at least an upper-midcarder, Intercontinental champ worker. Dos probably needed a little more seasoning, and an ability to work the crowd more, but you can't argue with his in-ring work as a whole. Then again, due to these guys ability to work such a unique style, they probably got blacklisted for not being able to work "WWF Style" (whatever the fuck that is...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 I love you, Marty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Cam Chaos Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 What about Japanese teams or should those be left for another time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 I'd love to include Japanese teams personally, but there are probably arguments good and bad there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 The biggest argument against using Japanese teams is that most people here have probably never seen the best teams wrestle enough to make an informed opinion. I could easily make the argument that Kawada & Taue are the best tag team ever (certainly in the best two tag matches ever) but if someone has never seen them, I would hate to see that person vote for a team like the Hollywood Bloondes or Legion of Doom over them when those American teams are so far below the totem pole in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 I'd skip the Japanese teams, uness you want me to vote for BBB and Vader everytime because they are the only team I've seen in more than one match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alfdogg Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 So how's this coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Well, Loss should be abck from vacation tomorrow and once everyone settles in, we'll get the tag teams and the posters to participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 I will be check in on it a very day. I had to make that joke somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 I'm ready to start anytime. I'm going to start a mega-nomination thread now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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