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Very good point about Ishikawa/Sato being awesome as a tag team this year but not much in singles. I kept wanting to mention the Young Bucks and Usos but really can't unless we did a top tag teams list.

 

Naito spent most of the first half of the year facing Ishii so thats probably why I overrate him. I do think he is on his way to being one of the top wrestlers in NJPW in the next year or two.

 

Also have to agree on Sheamus being the guy right now in WWE. Pretty much guaranteed to have a good match with anyone on the roster.

 

Here are some NOAH recommendations:

Atsushi Kotoge vs. Daisuke Harada 1/5
Taiji Ishimori vs. Hajime Ohara 1/19
Takashi Sugiura vs. Atsushi Kotoge 2/3
Naomichi Marufuji & Atsushi Kotoge vs. Takashi Sugiura & Masato Tanaka 2/22
Taiji Ishimori vs. Daisuke Harada 3/8
Yoshinari Ogawa & Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Atsushi Kotoge & Taiji Ishimori 3/21
Yoshinari Ogawa & Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Atsushi Kotoge & Taiji Ishimori 4/12
Daisuke Harada vs. Atsushi Kotoge 4/19
Mikey Nicholls & Shane Haste vs. Atsushi Kotoge & Taiji Ishimori 5/17
Konley has been really good in EVOLVE/etc. and getting better as a heel. Also in PWX he had a great match against Cedric Alexander 2/15 and if anyone does seek out that match make sure to watch the Jake Manning vs. John Skyler I Quit Match, seriously one of my favorite matches this year,
I think Gargano is awesome. One of my other favorite matches of the year was Gargano vs. Roderick Strong from DGUSA 2/23. He also had good title defenses against Uhaa Nation (EVOLVE 27), Trent Baretta (DGUSA 2/22), and Ricochet (WM Weekend) plus probably had my favorite Elgin match this year in SMASH on 1/26. I could name more but obviously none of this matters if you hate Gargano.
The last thing I want to mention is that I'm not sure how many reading this thread are aware that IWA-MS is back and lately has been having almost weekly cards. It is starting to remind me of old school IWA-MS where they had 40+ shows a year and all kinds of unique matchups plus up and coming guys from the midwest (and Ian fighting a guy wear a yarmulke in a Taipei Barbed Wire Bat Death Match) Some new/sorta new guys to keep an eye out for: Danny Cannon, Shane Mercer, Christian Rose, Reed Bentley, Gary Jay and Matt Cage.
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I'm a big fan of Skyler and have a soft spot for Jake Manning. What episode of PWX tv is the I Quit match on? I watch their shows semi-regularly and missed it. I've got more things to say in response to stomper and Bill that I'll get to tomorrow.

 

I'm not positive it was on an episode of TV but they uploaded the entire show and it's on the same website with all the TV episodes. Here is a link to the show:

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Wyatt presents a dilemma because his worst moments have been terrible, and he can't carry a match, but how do you leave out a guy who has been in four of the top ten WWE matches of the year?

Right. We are talking about six months of work. Not many have as many high quality matches in a short period of time as Bray does. I don't think Bray is a top flight worker at this stage in his career but he has been very good at times this year, with several well (or very well) received matches to show for it. On a half-year list, that is more than enough to at least be considered. I agree that if Bray were booked differently this year, his bad moments might have far outweighed the good but they didn't. These list exercises would be rather pointless if we just ranked guys based on perceived talent rather than actual output.

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To me the most interesting and challenging part about these lists (and yes I take them seriously enough for them to be challenging) is trying to weigh things like output, talent, consistency, volume, et. Last year was a good example as I got some shit for having Regal in my top fifteen at the end of the year, but how could I drop the guy any farther when he was in my top two U.S. matches of the year, with only Hechicero v. Lucero ahead of the matches globally? It's tough trying to work out that balance and there isn't a fixed formula I apply, but I do have a way of thinking about those sort of things that I try to navigate when I'm throwing together a list.

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i tend to strongly discount 6-man work for a single wrestler unless there was a truly special performance from the individual in question, and i didn't see any of that from bray in the shield-wyatts feud.

 

basically to use a football analogy, i think putting wyatt in the top 50 would be akin to giving shaun alexander the MVP award. people thought alexander was an amazing running back due to his years of big numbers, but eventually we learned that seattle had a historically great offensive line and he was along for the ride more than anything else. wyatt is the biggest example of a "system guy" in pro wrestling right now - that is, someone whose surroundings have given them a great resume without great performance.

 

in my view, a top 50 wrestler should be someone who can succeed in multiple "systems" as it were. bray wyatt, at this point, has been heavily reliant on WWE's production values and stacked roster to make him look good. he certainly has the potential to grow beyond that, but he's not there yet imo

 

in short, i tend to think more like bilthompson on this kind of stuff. i am most impressed by wrestlers who can give a memorable performance in an otherwise worthless match, and will put them in the top 50 ahead of someone who was just another guy in multiple **** matches. i see those as the wrestlers most likely to succeed when given a bigger role in a bigger promotion, though obviously that's still far from a guarantee.

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I was inspired by this thread to take it to the ridiculous level. Here is the Mookieghana YTD 2014 Lucha 1,000. Yes, I ranked a thousand wrestlers despite having zero knowledge about what's going on in Mexico. Essentially, the methodology is completely driven by a model that looks at projected singles/tag wins, their place on the card and some extra weight for which company (major or indy) they worked for.

(I'm terrible with correcting duplicates so I'm sure the list is riddled with them.)

 

Here's the top 50.

rank / name / matches / singles win % / tag win % / avg place on a 5-match card
1	Volador Jr.              	99	73%	62%	5
2	La Sombra                	92	78%	57%	4
3	Rush                     	94	78%	58%	4
4	Atlantis                 	121	38%	67%	4
5	Titán                    	85	75%	56%	4
6	Shocker                  	87	30%	56%	5
7	La Parka                 	56	100%	63%	5
8	Diamante Azul            	57	100%	69%	4
9	Negro Casas              	81	43%	49%	4
10	Cavernario               	66	71%	50%	4
11	Mistico                  	51	75%	59%	5
12	Último Guerrero          	119	57%	45%	5
13	Valiente                 	91	40%	59%	4
14	Drako                    	65	50%	55%	4
15	Silver Star              	54	67%	56%	4
16	Myzteziz/Sin Cara        	40	100%	94%	5
17	Psycho Clown             	75	33%	72%	4
18	Slayer                   	61	100%	50%	3
19	Mephisto                 	63	75%	28%	4
20	Cibernético              	38	33%	61%	5
21	Rey Escorpión            	66	50%	33%	4
22	Guerrero Maya Jr.        	78	43%	66%	4
23	Blue Panther             	69	75%	56%	3
24	La Máscara               	94	33%	57%	4
25	Stuka Jr.                	80	40%	60%	3
26	Fénix                    	73	40%	64%	4
27	Texano Jr.               	68	33%	25%	5
28	Súper Nova               	43	80%	60%	4
29	el Hijo del Perro Aguayo 	36	33%	38%	5
30	Orquídea Negra           	35	100%	100%	4
31	Tritón                   	65	67%	53%	3
32	Lady Maravilla           	48	50%	100%	3
33	Daga                     	55	50%	48%	4
34	Mr. Niebla               	84	25%	55%	5
35	Piloto Suicida           	67	NA	NA	4
36	Tiger                    	68	60%	43%	3
37	Destello                 	58	50%	63%	3
38	Dr. Wagner Jr.           	24	40%	100%	5
39	Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 	39	67%	40%	4
40	Pedro Navajas            	43	50%	75%	3
41	Chessman                 	34	50%	43%	5
42	Dragón Rojo Jr.          	60	40%	38%	4
43	Fuego                    	61	50%	69%	3
44	Hijo De Dos Caras        	34	50%	55%	4
45	Ángel Del Futuro         	35	NA	100%	4
46	Máximo                   	108	25%	67%	4
47	Marco Corleone           	60	100%	65%	4
48	Cachorro                 	54	50%	41%	3
49	Eterno                   	79	40%	40%	3
50	Delta                    	62	40%	63%	3
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Time for round two! Let's keep the insane train rolling.

 

Full list: http://indeedwrestling.blogspot.com/2014/07/mookieghanas-japanese-men-400-and-joshi.html

 

I pulled in results from CageMatch for thirty Japanese companies (including New Japan, Dragon Gate, Big Japan, NOAH, All Japan, DDT, Wrestle-1, Osaka Pro, K-Dojo, Zero1, Ice Ribbon, WAVE, JWP, Michinoku Pro, Stardom, Union Pro and Oz). In the end we had about 4,750 matches spread across 810 events. I separated each match's results into individual people and looked at the same factors as before. I assigned "gender" of wrestlers based on which company they worked in and who their opponents were in the matches that I reviewed. It certainly was not a foolproof method and I easily could have screwed up some people!

 

JOSHI 100

rank / name / matches/ singles win % / tag win % / place on 5-match card
1	Tsukasa Fujimoto         	83	87%	66%	4
2	Mio Shirai               	80	59%	57%	3
3	Hikaru Shida             	61	64%	64%	3
4	Kyoko Kimura             	47	63%	52%	4
5	Kyoko Inoue              	21	100%	46%	5
6	Maki Narumiya            	43	60%	71%	3
7	Io Shirai                	25	89%	69%	4
8	Hamuko Hoshi             	54	71%	49%	3
9	Yumi Ohka                	39	82%	33%	4
10	Cherry                   	57	56%	59%	2
11	Tsukushi                 	41	80%	42%	3
12	Risa Sera                	63	47%	68%	3
13	Misaki Ohata             	32	90%	65%	3
14	Kana                     	44	75%	63%	3
15	Arisa Nakajima           	41	100%	63%	3
16	Shuu Shibutani           	51	68%	39%	3
17	Hiroyo Matsumoto         	46	71%	58%	2
18	Kayoko Haruyama          	36	67%	68%	3
19	AKINO                    	14	100%	56%	4
20	Command Bolshoi          	33	83%	67%	3
21	Rabbit Miu               	50	52%	44%	2
22	Kurumi                   	49	65%	54%	2
23	Syuri                    	23	90%	62%	3
24	Natsuki Taiyo            	24	50%	64%	4
25	Leon                     	37	67%	52%	3
26	Nanae Takahashi          	22	75%	56%	4
27	Hanako Nakamori          	29	75%	61%	3
28	Aja Kong                 	21	100%	65%	4
29	Yumiko Hotta             	15	100%	67%	4
30	DASH Chisako             	18	67%	75%	3
31	Neko Nitta               	33	33%	71%	3
32	Manami Katsu             	38	47%	56%	3
33	Kaoru Ito                	21	89%	55%	3
34	Tomoka Nakagawa          	33	79%	50%	2
35	Yoshiko                  	24	78%	62%	3
36	Kaho Kobayashi           	57	39%	37%	2
37	Kairi Hojo               	23	50%	72%	3
38	Miyako Matsumoto         	37	20%	44%	3
39	Tomoko Watanabe          	11	NA	40%	4
40	Tsubasa Kuragaki         	18	71%	91%	3
41	KAZUKI                   	33	47%	29%	3
42	Dynamite Kansai          	12	67%	67%	4
43	Sachie Abe               	36	36%	30%	3
44	Meiko Satomura           	11	80%	83%	3
45	Mayumi Ozaki             	12	100%	40%	4
46	Makoto                   	30	100%	56%	3
47	Jaguar Yokota            	11	100%	78%	3
48	Mask de Sun              	11	33%	75%	4
49	Takako Inoue             	8	100%	33%	4
50	Takumi Iroha             	23	33%	55%	3
Men in Japan 400

 

rank / name / matches / singles win % / tag win % / place on a 6-match card
1	BxB Hulk                 	87	93%	45%	4
2	Isami Kodaka             	76	88%	69%	5
3	Shingo Takagi            	83	91%	78%	4
4	YAMATO                   	87	79%	38%	5
5	Jun Akiyama              	61	71%	72%	5
6	Takao Omori              	58	68%	67%	4
7	Ricochet                 	52	75%	89%	4
8	Takoyakida               	72	56%	68%	4
9	KAI                      	42	72%	71%	5
10	Shinsuke Nakamura        	61	69%	46%	5
11	T-Hawk                   	86	57%	56%	4
12	Masakatsu Funaki         	46	94%	85%	4
13	Kazuaki Mihara           	72	86%	69%	4
14	Kota Ibushi              	55	73%	67%	4
15	Yuko Miyamoto            	64	70%	72%	5
16	Kazuchika Okada          	60	67%	39%	6
17	Suwama                   	54	78%	44%	5
18	Akira Tozawa             	85	78%	74%	4
19	Hiroshi Tanahashi        	61	83%	53%	5
20	Jimmy Susumu             	83	62%	43%	4
21	HARASHIMA                	47	77%	52%	5
22	Mohammed Yone            	54	87%	53%	4
23	Ryuji Ito                	58	83%	46%	4
24	Masaaki Mochizuki        	80	67%	41%	3
25	KUDO                     	42	82%	68%	5
26	Shinya Ishikawa          	61	75%	53%	4
27	Masato Yoshino           	85	78%	74%	4
28	Joe Doering              	41	75%	48%	5
29	Daisuke Sekimoto         	49	89%	52%	4
30	Katsuhiko Nakajima       	56	88%	43%	4
31	Kanjyouro Matsuyama      	72	44%	50%	4
32	Uhaa Nation              	51	80%	63%	4
33	Kenou                    	54	57%	77%	3
34	Kotaro Suzuki            	54	81%	58%	4
35	KENTA                    	36	78%	69%	5
36	Takashi Sugiura          	45	86%	68%	5
37	Takeshi Morishima        	46	67%	56%	5
38	Naomichi Marufuji        	56	75%	45%	5
39	Shigehiro Irie           	67	78%	71%	4
40	Naruki Doi               	86	57%	47%	5
41	Cyber Kong               	68	67%	60%	4
42	Daisuke Harada           	58	74%	46%	4
43	Akebono                  	28	100%	67%	5
44	Bad Luck Fale            	53	67%	50%	5
45	Masato Tanaka            	46	89%	64%	5
46	Ultimo Dragon            	54	75%	58%	4
47	Kento Miyahara           	54	50%	55%	4
48	Keisuke Ishii            	66	62%	67%	3
49	Mikey Nicholls           	45	64%	62%	4
50	Maybach Taniguchi        	55	25%	55%	5
What does it mean? Probably nothing.
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Mookie's insane train rolls on.

 

I just finished the North American Indy 325.

http://indeedwrestling.blogspot.com/2014/07/mookieghanas-north-american-indy-power.html

 

I looked at results from 200 North American pro-wrestling companies YTD 2014 and created a list of eligible wrestlers based on who had most matches outside of "major" companies.

 

*) Major = WWE, TNA, ROH, EVOLVE, DGUSA

 

There was also consideration taken in for which people worked in a variety of "regions" across the US (and Canada) as well as the similar factors as before (total matches, estimated singles wins, estimated tag wins, average place on the card). Again, this is a silly stats driven model which gives no thought to working ability or other critical judgment calls. Think of it as a Mookie's ridiculous indy PWI. Compiled by someone hasn't seen most of the people on this list.

 

rank / wrestler / matches / federation with most matches / single win % / tag win % / place on 8 match card
1	Michael Elgin  	73	Ring Of Honor (23)                 	71%	88%	6
2	Kevin Steen    	53	Ring Of Honor (20)                 	55%	46%	5
3	Chris Hero     	51	Ring Of Honor (8)                  	54%	75%	6
4	Jimmy Jacobs   	49	Ring Of Honor (15)                 	56%	64%	5
5	Joey Ryan      	39	Champ Wrestling From Hollywood (8) 	65%	68%	4
6	Rich Swann     	47	EVOLVE Wrestling (7)               	37%	40%	5
7	Johnny Gargano 	33	DREAMWAVE Wrestling (8)            	54%	33%	6
8	Athena         	27	Anarchy Championship Wrestling (5) 	48%	100%	4
9	ACH            	47	Ring Of Honor (20)                 	48%	21%	4
10	Kyle O'Reilly  	48	Ring Of Honor (22)                 	29%	53%	5
11	Candice LeRae  	28	Women Superstars Uncensored (6)    	50%	69%	4
12	Nick Jackson   	20	Ring Of Honor (4)                  	50%	67%	7
13	Davey Vega     	30	Beyond Wrestling (6)               	39%	43%	4
14	Trent Barreta  	31	EVOLVE Wrestling (7)               	29%	50%	6
15	Leah Von Dutch 	19	Absolute Intense Wrestling (4)     	63%	NA	6
16	Matt Hardy     	39	Big Time Wrestling (6)             	76%	63%	7
17	Ron Mathis     	38	Rockstar Pro Wrestling (18)        	65%	77%	5
18	Lince Dorado   	42	I Believe In Wrestling (10)        	64%	54%	5
19	AJ Styles      	26	Ring Of Honor (6)                  	81%	100%	7
20	JT Dunn        	37	Combat Zone Wrestling (10)         	60%	71%	5
21	David Starr    	36	Combat Zone Wrestling (11)         	67%	65%	5
22	Gory           	32	Pro Wrestling eXpress (10)         	71%	59%	5
23	Jack Pollock   	26	Pro Wrestling eXpress (15)         	50%	75%	6
24	Caleb Konley   	47	Premiere Wrestling Xperience (12)  	58%	33%	5
25	Ethan Page     	38	AAW: (9)                           	41%	78%	4
26	Matt Cage      	32	Beyond Wrestling (11)              	69%	67%	4
27	Jason Kincaid  	23	National Wrestling Alliance (9)    	67%	60%	5
28	Drake Younger  	24	Supreme Pro Wrestling (6)          	50%	67%	6
29	Matt Conard    	29	Black Diamond Wrestling (13)       	61%	40%	5
30	Josh Crane     	37	IWA Mid-South (14)                 	46%	42%	4
31	Mia Yim        	24	SHINE Wrestling (6)                	56%	71%	5
32	Dave Crist     	34	Rockstar Pro Wrestling (14)        	70%	58%	4
33	Kimber Lee     	33	Women Superstars Uncensored (8)    	53%	50%	3
34	LuFisto        	22	Rockstar Pro Wrestling (5)         	73%	60%	5
35	Gangrel        	19	West Coast Wrestling Connection (7)	70%	63%	5
36	Matt Cross     	26	Absolute Intense Wrestling (7)     	81%	50%	4
37	Chris LeRusso  	31	Black Diamond Wrestling (13)       	52%	14%	5
38	Tommy Dreamer  	17	Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (3) 	40%	50%	6
39	Matt Jackson   	17	Ring Of Honor (4)                  	NA	69%	7
40	Louis Lyndon   	23	AAW: (8)                           	43%	63%	4
41	Allysin Kay    	14	SHINE Wrestling (7)                	50%	75%	6
42	Tripp Cassidy  	26	Evolution Pro Wrestling (9)        	38%	54%	4
43	Facade         	22	International Wrestling Cartel (9) 	50%	50%	5
44	Gregory Iron   	20	Smash Wrestling (4)                	40%	50%	3
45	AR Fox         	41	EVOLVE Wrestling (7)               	45%	33%	5
46	Reby Sky       	23	Big Time Wrestling (6)             	73%	100%	4
47	Carlito        	15	World Wrestling Council (7)        	44%	67%	7
48	Ricky Starks   	24	Canadian Wrestling's Elite (6)     	32%	20%	4
49	Jessicka Havok 	16	SHINE Wrestling (4)                	63%	33%	5
50	Jay Flash      	11	Black Diamond Wrestling (8)        	38%	100%	6
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Favorite part of that list is when random guys pop in like Ron Mathis. Like not surprised Elgin is #1. Works a ton of places and is high ranking in almost all of them. I find it funny that Nick is so many places ahead of his brother based on about a weekend's worth of work.

 

Hmmmm. Can you explain how the formula works that has AJ Styles with more matches, higher on the card, and a higher winning percentage than people in front of him?

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I'll do my best to explain the voodoo wrestlenomics that generate the rankings.

Let's take AJ Styles.

Among the companies in my database, Styles worked 18 matches for "non-major" companies. Those companies held shows in many places including Canada, Central States (Ohio/Illinois), Northern States (NY/PA/NJ), Pacific States (California) and Southern States (North Carolina). In the end he gets 3 points out of a possible five points for working in Canada (1 point) and because he had several matches in Northern States (1 point) and several matches in Central States (1 point).

(To qualify for the list, you had to have at least 2 points.)

Styles record (all North American companies including major companies) was 23 singles matches and 3 tag matches for 26 total matches. His singles record was 17-4-2 (81% win) and his tag record was 3-0 (100% win). This put his "estimated singles wins" at (17+4+2)*.81=18.63 and his "estimated tag wins" at (3+0+0)*1.0=3.

AJ Styles' "estimated single wins" (18.63) was 8th highest among everyone on the list (Michael Elgin, Kevin Steen, Chris Hero, Cedric Alexander, Caleb Konley, Lince Dorado, Danny Duggan all had more). AJ Styles' "estimated tag wins" (3.00) was 125th on the list (the leaders were Michael Elgin, Davey Richards, BJ Whitmer, JT Dunn, David Starr, Mason Cutter, Devin Cutter, Dylan Bostic).

If you think of a wrestling card completion going from 0% to 100% (opening match at 0%, last match at 100%), AJ Styles average "placement" on the card was 92.6%. That put his "main event equivalence" at 93%x26 matches=24.09. Among all the wrestlers on the list his ""main event equivalence" (24.09) was ranked 16th (top ten were Michael Elgin, Davey Richards, Kevin Steen, Chris Hero, Jimmy Jacobs, Kyle O'Reilly, Cedric Alexander, Caleb Konley, Rich Swann, Matt Hardy).

So, his "weighted average" was a combination of Singles Win Rank(3x), Tag Win Rank (2x), Placement rank (1x) which was (8*3+125*2+16*1)/6=48.333
Final score was then "adjusted" by the absolute placement, [1.1-placement]x"weighted average"=[1.1-.926]x48.33 = 8.41 score.

That was AJ Styles' "all companies" score (8.41). Among everyone on the list, it was 7th (behind Michael Elgin, Kevin Steen, Jimmy Jacobs, Matt Hardy, Ron Mathis, Danny Duggan). However, we're not done.

Next, we calculate all of the same variables, but we do it just looking at match records for non-major companies. AJ Styles was 13-3-1 singles (81%) and 1-0 tag (100%). His "estimated singles wins" was 13.8 and "estimated tag wins" was 1.0. That put him at 13th and 240th respectively.

On non-major shows, his average placement on the card was similar, 93.5%. His "main event equivalence" for non-major companies was 16.8, which put him at 36th. His weighted average would be (13*3+240*2+36)/6=92.5. Final score is adjusted by absolutel placement (93.5%) so [1.1-0.935]x92.5=15.26.
This is AJ Styles' "non-major companies" score (15.26) which put him 15th among everyone. (The top ten for the "non-major companies" were Michael Elgin, Heidi Lovelace, Joey Ryan, Ron Mathis, Lince Dorado, JT Dunn, Danny Duggan, Jimmy Jacobs, Gory, Matt Hardy).

Now, we have two rankings: all-companies (Styles was 7th) and non-major companies (Styles was 15th).

His final score is a combination of these two factors with the original "points" metric thrown in.
So, his final score was calculated at (points/5)x((400-[all companies rank])*3+(400-[non-major companies rank])*2)/5. In this case, his score would be (2/5)x[(400-7)*3+(400-15)*2]/5=60%*(1179+770)/5=234.
That number (234) was ranked among everyone and that's where AJ Styles ended up as 19th.

To be honest, there's really a very tight pack as numerous people have scores that range from 220 to 240 Matt Hardy, Ron Mathis, Lince Dorado, AJ Styles, JT Dunn, Gory, David Starr, Jack Pollock, Matt Cage, Drake Younger. There's a "random variable" in my data to prevent ties and when you're dealing with many people who have the same tag records (or whatnot), people really start to fly around when you rerun the data. It's a shortcoming in the model based on not enough matches. I can certainly talk about the reasoning behind each of the steps, but basically it was just something I threw together with the idea that I wanted to reward people who

(1) won a lot (2) worked both tag & singles (3) worked in several regions (4) worked near the top of the card.

So, the short answer is that if I re-run the model, even today, there's some significant shuffling that happens naturally (or randomly) so it might be more accurate to band the wrestlers where you have the top four (Elgin, Steen, Hero, Ryan) as one group and then the next band and so forth.

 

I know this all sounds crazy and well, it is.

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