goodhelmet Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I created a new topic because the last one discussed more of a role Christian would play in TNA whereas this one focuses completely on his name and how it will affect him and how the WWE is going to react. Stolen from tOA.... Word Mark CHRISTIAN CAGE Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment in the nature of wrestling contests; Entertainment services in the nature of a wrestling club; Entertainment services namely live, televised and movie appearances by a professional entertainer; Entertainment services, namely, personal appearances by a professional wrestler. FIRST USE: 19950630. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950630 Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 78745579 Filing Date November 2, 2005 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Owner (APPLICANT) William Jason Reso INDIVIDUAL CANADA c/o BWCS Sports/Media 9242 Beverly Blvd., Suite 200 Beverly Hills UNITED STATES 90210 Attorney of Record Eric J. Goodman Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE And he also owns... Word Mark CAPTAIN CHARISMA Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment in the nature of wrestling contests; Entertainment services in the nature of a wrestling club; Entertainment services namely live, televised and movie appearances by a professional entertainer; Entertainment services, namely, personal appearances by a professional wrestler. FIRST USE: 20040930. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20040930 Standard Characters Claimed Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK Serial Number 78745757 Filing Date November 2, 2005 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Owner (APPLICANT) William Jason Reso INDIVIDUAL CANADA c/o BWCS Sports/Media 9242 Beverly Blvd., Suite 200 Beverly Hills UNITED STATES 90210 Attorney of Record Eric J. Goodman Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 He wrestled as Christian Cage before WWE so he has all rights to that, but how the hell did WWE not copyright "Captain Charisma"? Another victory for that crack WWE legal team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted November 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 jdw claims that he ahs the right to nothing until it is registered so this may be much ado about nothing. Still, Chrisian was smart just attempting to get the rights to the name. I have a gut feeling if the Dudleys would have done this that they would still be the Dudleys in TNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack D. Ripper Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 I'm sure WWe has the Dudley name locked up, since they bought the ECW scraps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 I'm assuming that the Dudleyx, like Spike signed over the rights to the name when they signed with WWF. As far as "Captain Charisma," I can't imagine that WWE doesn't have that trademarked. They made a shirt with the phrase on it, which I'd say is a pretty good indication that they own the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Not necessarily. They made Hulkamania shirts and that went with Hogan to WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Marvel owns the Hulk Hogan name, due to WWF billing him as "Incredible" Hulk Hogan when he first started with them. It's also why he changed to Hollywood Hogan, WCW got tired of paying Marvel. Christian should be able to call himself Christian Cage at least in TNA, since it's easily proven that the name predated his WWF run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Marvel Comics owned the name at the time (Hogan owns it now). Bret Hart owned his name, Savage his, Jake Roberts his, etc... It's a different situation. Christian began using the gimmick in WWE, not before, like the guys I mentioned and didn't have a trademark (or attempt to trademark it) before he left the company. I'm pretty sure that WWE owns it, but I hope for Reso's sake that they don't. I like the gimmick, if fits Christian's gimmick perfectly, and it was probably his idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Isn't it established that if a guy can prove he used a ring name before entering WWE, that they can't claim ownership? Isn't that the reason they always tried to give everyone a new WWE-owned gimmick even if they were better known as someone else before? Christian was wrestling as Christian long before entering WWF/E, I don't think they can claim that as WWE property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Campbell Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 If he owns the trademark to Captain Charisma, then I think he's officially the smartest wrestler that's left the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOwnSummer Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 It would explain why they stopped selling the Captain Charisma shirts before he left. Even when they were selling them, they were hard to find at house shows. They didn't have any at the house show I went to in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Some Guy Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 It would explain why they stopped selling the Captain Charisma shirts before he left. Even when they were selling them, they were hard to find at house shows. They didn't have any at the house show I went to in Vancouver. That's probably because they either didn't think they would sell or were afraid that they would sell too well and that they might just have to consider pushing aguy who they didn't deem worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bravesfan Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 He trademarked Captain Charisma as a performing name. Captain Charisma is already trademarked as a merchandising entity to a non-WWE company or individual, which would explain why they stopped marketing the moniker a few months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 That actually would explain a lot, if he caught WWE sleeping and trademarked Captain Charisma before they did. It would explain why they stopped selling his merchandise and would be a reason for why they would offer him a lowball contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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