JaymeFuture Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Just to drop this in here, the latest Squared Circle Gazette Radio is now up, as we discuss your "Against The Grain" opinions on all things wrestling. We talk about a wide variety of topics this week - is Ric Flair a routine man with an elevated reputation? Is Shawn Michaels merely "solid"? We cover a wide number of your views on Lucha Underground and intergender wrestling, Steve Austin's heel run, Rob Van Dam, Bob Backlund, William Regal, Umaga, Tyson Vs. Austin, criticisms of Finn Balor and Sasha Banks, a debate on modern in-ring styles and a litany of other issues. With a ton more on the way next week in Part 2, this one was a great deal of fun, check it out! http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/web/sk26vj/SCG_Radio_93_-_Going_Against_The_Grain_Part_1.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 If you guys ever want to do that Shawn Michaels debate, just ask I'm right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadMick Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Oh, that could get messy..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Think it would basically be a jobber match based on the arguments put forward on this episode. Also doesn't have to be me, just that I'd be happy to. And don't think it would be very difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted October 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Well hold on, if I remember right the initial comment was a short statement about not thinking Shawn was very good with little explanation as to what led him to the opinion, so the counter was essentially - we disagree, and we need to hear the argument before we can even begin a debate on it, so at that point it could only ever be a comment about disagreeing until more is made of it. I'd love to have that debate, you or Butchi may be the ones to do it, if I can figure a way to set it up I'm happy to do it, I think it'd be a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted October 8, 2016 Report Share Posted October 8, 2016 After Parv hits you guys up on your Shawn Michaels love (listening to your Rushmore episode now which doesn't have a reaction thread) can you have someone else shake you by the Kurt Angle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I know this forum isn't generally fond of Angle, I'm hoping to take to the Cena Vs. Angle thread either tonight or tomorrow because I think it's an excellent comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Well hold on, if I remember right the initial comment was a short statement about not thinking Shawn was very good with little explanation as to what led him to the opinion, so the counter was essentially - we disagree, and we need to hear the argument before we can even begin a debate on it, so at that point it could only ever be a comment about disagreeing until more is made of it. I'd love to have that debate, you or Butchi may be the ones to do it, if I can figure a way to set it up I'm happy to do it, I think it'd be a blast. Probably should know my position though which isn't "Shawn sucks at wrestling" it's only "he's not in GOAT discussion". And I don't think Bret is either, which mainly boils down to neither of them having GOAT careers like Flair, Jumbo or whoever. He's tier 2 at best. I don't know if that would lead to a great debate or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Well hold on, if I remember right the initial comment was a short statement about not thinking Shawn was very good with little explanation as to what led him to the opinion, so the counter was essentially - we disagree, and we need to hear the argument before we can even begin a debate on it, so at that point it could only ever be a comment about disagreeing until more is made of it. I'd love to have that debate, you or Butchi may be the ones to do it, if I can figure a way to set it up I'm happy to do it, I think it'd be a blast. Probably should know my position though which isn't "Shawn sucks at wrestling" it's only "he's not in GOAT discussion". And I don't think Bret is either, which mainly boils down to neither of them having GOAT careers like Flair, Jumbo or whoever. He's tier 2 at best. I don't know if that would lead to a great debate or not. I'd be interested in hearing it. There's always arguments about whether you should grade on a curve because of certain promotion's traditions and styles as well as other factors (like heavy road schedule and dates, harder rings, not having as many repeats on a loop etc), as well as more outside factors like how much being a star in the biggest or a bigger promotion should impact assessing one wrestler's legacies, and Shawn and Bret both come around as the territories are really fading out and hit their singles peaks after that era has practically died. It's a fitting backdrop and transition to the current scene. Plus, the fireworks ought to be very interesting regarding Shawn's comeback and his "epic" matches post 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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