JerryvonKramer Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Always been fascinated by the pre-Jack Tunney presidents. I went through to see if I could find actual footage of the first two WWF Presidents. Rare sightings indeed.2/2/76 MSG:I believe this is the first on-air appearance of Gilzenberg as President. He passes a note to Wagner about next month's MSG card, and Vince mentions him on commentary.10/1/77 Championship Wrestling:After Ken Patera disgracefully wouldn't let go of a swinging full nelson on Juan Lopez, causing Lopez to go to hospital. Gilzenberg suspends Patera on the spot.10/22/77 Championship Wrestling:Here Gilzenberg deals with an irate Captain Lou, who of course was Patera's manager. Lou is going spare about Patera's suspension and thinks it is against human rights. Gilzenberg is very firm and authorative. He stands by the ruling unless Albano and Patera EACH pay a $5,000 fine. Albano makes like J Wellington Wimpy and says he'll pay him the money ... TOMORROW.I was pretty impressed with Gilzenberg's performance here. A few stuttery moments, but in general he was good in the role. More natural charisma than a Jim Crockett Jr.--------Here was the only sighting of President Shinma that I could find:1/18/82 MSG:Here Finkel announces him along with some other dignitaries (Tunney, Crockett and Vince Sr are not announced, however, just seem to be general "board members"). Shinma speaks decent English and reads out some stuff from a piece of paper, but Vince talks all over it, so I didn't hear much of what was being said.Still, cool to have all these guys in one ring as late as 1982. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 What announcement was Shinma making? That's a lot of brass in the ring for the usual crowd announcements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 It was something to do with New Japan for their TV. On the footage you can't hear what he's saying because Vince Jr is talking over him about an upcoming match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy1987 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 He's also introduced on the MSG 12/79 card before Backlund vs Duncum, which coincidentally I just put on YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 He's also introduced on the MSG 12/79 card before Backlund vs Duncum, which coincidentally I just put on YouTube Right on, after Inoki vacates the title in Japan, Shinma comes to the states to present the belt to the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryvonKramer Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 One thing that struck me watching this stuff was how much the authority figure has changed over time. Even from the 70s to Jack Tunney is a big shift. The "board" was such a shadow-y organization. Shinma might as well have been in the Yakuza. The whole thing was so mysterious and opaque. Tunney brought greater transparency, but he was still essentially a beuracrat who seemed to represent byzantine systems and unknown corridors of power. Still a long way from there to Teddy Long as GM etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 I guess once Vince is established as the owner the veil is lifted a bit, so someone like Teddy Long as GM would be marginalized within kayfabe. He's basically running a chain restaurant compared to Tunney's global sports empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachchaos Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Playa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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