Sean Liska Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 I've watched a bunch of Georgia lately and am working through this stuff. What if I suggested Vince was a better territorial announcer than Gordon Solie. Am I going to hell? Lance Russell smokes them both of course, entirely in his own class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 I believe it is Cowboy Bob Brothers. I love these local nobodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 I've watched a bunch of Georgia lately and am working through this stuff. What if I suggested Vince was a better territorial announcer than Gordon Solie. Am I going to hell? Lance Russell smokes them both of course, entirely in his own class. Â Â Vince was great, the only issue I have with him is he needs to be paired with someone as he will go quiet for long periods of time. A lot of the time the person he's paired with is awful though. Â Â What cracks me up is in these days TV built to the houseshows, and so far WWWF TV was far more exciting than any of the MSG shows that have appeared so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Â Â I've watched a bunch of Georgia lately and am working through this stuff. What if I suggested Vince was a better territorial announcer than Gordon Solie. Am I going to hell? Lance Russell smokes them both of course, entirely in his own class. Â Vince was great, the only issue I have with him is he needs to be paired with someone as he will go quiet for long periods of time. A lot of the time the person he's paired with is awful though. Â Â What cracks me up is in these days TV built to the houseshows, and so far WWWF TV was far more exciting than any of the MSG shows that have appeared so far. If you're talking about the akward silence on these Network All-Star shows, I think that's where localized promos were inserted for each market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted March 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 No, Vince would just go silent sometimes. More so on the MSG shows than the TV, and it was more an issue when he was young and relatively inexperienced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khawk20 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I don't mind those silent bits. Sometimes less is more and the less-is-more announcer is a rare rare thing in wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Ernie Ladd vs Pete Sanchez from 1/17/76 is an absolutely beautiful big man vs underdog bout, with one of the most fun opening sequences I have seen in a while. A good example also of Ladd being a great bumper during his more mobile years, and some fun stooge selling to make Sanchez look credible against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Given how awful commentary is on the current product I wish there were silent gaps more often. Like in the entire match  Curious is the WWWF the first promotion to use instant replay? They do it too often though especially in the middle of the match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 To watch the complete weekly TV and then be able to watch the complete Spectrum and MSG shows when available through whatever means - we've never really been able to fully experience life as a territory fan like this, right? This is really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy hats Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 6/2/1979 promo from Albano and the Valiant Brothers is gloriously bonkers (though Im guessing in line with others they do in the period). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunro Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Â Â I've watched a bunch of Georgia lately and am working through this stuff. What if I suggested Vince was a better territorial announcer than Gordon Solie. Am I going to hell? Lance Russell smokes them both of course, entirely in his own class. Â Vince was great, the only issue I have with him is he needs to be paired with someone as he will go quiet for long periods of time. A lot of the time the person he's paired with is awful though. Â Â What cracks me up is in these days TV built to the houseshows, and so far WWWF TV was far more exciting than any of the MSG shows that have appeared so far. If you're talking about the akward silence on these Network All-Star shows, I think that's where localized promos were inserted for each market. Â The silence at the beginning of the match was where they would insert a voiceover promoting the cards coming to your area. Spent many a Saturday morning listening to Howard Finkel letting me know which bouts I would be seeing at the Erie County Fieldhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I still don't know why Rocca calls Vince McMahon "general" in the January 10th 1976 show but it is hilarious. Someone on the main roster has to start doing that  Nothing says bad ass heel that Ernie Ladd calling Bobo Brazil an Uncle Tom and a stooge for Bruno Sammartino. Pretty sure he was the only one allowed to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Patterson was so awesome. Man I wish we had more footage of him. No wonder he's considered a genius backstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Given how awful commentary is on the current product I wish there were silent gaps more often. Like in the entire match  Curious is the WWWF the first promotion to use instant replay? They do it too often though especially in the middle of the match   If they weren't the first they had to be a close second. It does come off like they got a new toy and can't stop playing with it.   Also I'm pretty sure Rocca is calling Vince "Junior" in his mangled English, everyone who worked with Vince Sr called him that and it's the reason VKM has PTSD about calling anyone a junior to this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I wouldn't say to seek it out like you would seek out Memphis or Portland from this era but Dibiase-Valiant from 7/14/79 represents a lot of the fun of this product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 That same 7/14/79 show has an SD Jones-Pat Patterson match. Pat Patterson seems like he was such an amazing worker, and this was the end of his career. If you watch the other SD Jones matches from this TV, you appreciate all the tricks Patterson used to pull a fun match out of him. I bet he had so many classics in his career that we'll never get to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Add Larry Z vs the Golden Terror from 3/25/78 to the worth a watch list. Unusual finish too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Freddie Blassie focusing on the same obese fan at ringside and running him down week after week during his ringside promo while Vince cracks up is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landy1987 Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Yeah I noticed him running that fat guy down too. Who is he? He had the same first row seat on like every All Star clip ive seen from around 1972-1982. Plus the old guy sat next to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Maybe he's related to another heavy set fan with a liking for front row seats from Philly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Skandor Akbar vs. Billy White Wolf. What does through your mind when you're an Iraqi immigrant dressed as a stereotypical native American and you look across and see a Texan dressed as a maniac from Saudi Arabia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Skandor Akbar vs. Billy White Wolf. What does through your mind when you're an Iraqi immigrant dressed as a stereotypical native American and you look across and see a Texan dressed as a maniac from Saudi Arabia? Â Â Probably "this is the most pro wrestling thing possible". Â At least Akbar was of Lebanese descent which was as close as you were going to get in those days to being culturally accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Man, I wonder if Iron Sheik had to go by Great Hussein Arab in WWF because Arion was the billed as the Iron Greek. I've always wondered why he used a different name there and was Sheik everywhere else The crazy thing is that he was in the WWF for most of 79 and early 1980 as things were really starting to pick up in Iran. Not sure if they didn't lean into the whole thing more because of security or good taste or Sheik actually having been a bodyguard for the Shah or that he started in the fed as an 'Arab' from Iran so he couldn't drop the Arab stuff. But they tried to get more heat off of Arab/OPEC issues over that time. To put it in context, the Hostage crisis started in November 1979 while he was still in NY and getting occasional matches with Backlund  It took until 1982-ish in Florida for the Killer Karl Kox using FOIA to dox the Iron Sheik. So perhaps they had to wait for things to cool a little to not seem so exploitative.  Then again... some of the same people brought Sheik back in 1991 as an Iraqi, because I'm guessing the talent pool of people they could bring in to tag with Slaughter (or tag with Adnan) was a bit thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Jackson Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 God bless the Golden "Terra" (As Vince calls him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Liska Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 So I'm watching the 79 TV and then watching the Spectrum and MSG shows chronologically with them and having the time of my life. Just watched the June 79 Spectrum show, it was wild. Dibiase and Patterson had a great match. Strongbow-Valentine was like a slower version of a Memphis brawl with Strongbow using any weapon he could find at ringside to bloody Valentine, it was awesome. Then we had Backlund/Putski vs The Valiants - Backlund gets injured and taken to the back mid-match but returns for a wild finish. And at the finish a fan tries to hit the ring and makes it to the apron before 10 guys tackle him. I'm gaining new respect for the NY territory for sure. It's just so fun to be able to watch complete territorial TV and then the arena shows, we've never been able to do that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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