sek69 Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 CMLL did a press release saying they were ending their partnership with ROH, which is probably not completely unrelated to the news that Matt Taven is being booked on the show Rush and family are running to kick off their new promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 This was always a curious partnership to me. Outside of Texas, the CMLL partnership really didn't do much for either company. Sure the matches were fun to watch live, but I don't know anyone who ever purchased a ticket to ROH specifically to see CMLL guys. In Mexico, does ROH even mean anything? I don't expect ROH to be bigger than CMLL, AAA, or WWE, but where does ROH rank amongst Riot, IWRG, The Crash, and others as far as reach, influence, relevancy, etc. There is no way ROH is getting more eyeballs than Zona 23. If CMLL or ROH didn't really see a boost in business with The Elite exposure, it's probably best CMLL pulled out. I am not up on the politics of everything, but according to Rob Viper (@RobViper on Twitter), Mexican wrestling politics, especially those in CMLL, are beyond frustrating, irritating, and down right confusing. These are not Rob's exact words, however, what I wrote captures the spirit of one of most recent Tweets regarding the situation. The end of this relationship will impact ROH's bottom line. CMLL ending the working relationship will hurt CMLL more than ROH in terms of North America exposure. I am sure the information that will come out in the coming days will be very level headed and not make the CMLL head office seem completely crazy and out of touch.* * I am being sarcastic. This will be a shit show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strobogo Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 Does ROH mean anything anywhere anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 Not really. The buzz on social media is head-to-head with Impact's at times, but take that for what it's worth. Recently, Joe Koff said that ROH does between 500-600K views for ROH's TV show. If that's the case then that means ROH is the 3rd most watched pro wrestling promotion in America. People still watch, but the product has mostly been lifeless post Elite. ROH tries its best, but much like Impact, I feel a lot of fans have given up on the ship turning around despite a few bright spots. At one point, pre pandemic, I believe MLW was out drawing both Impact and ROH on a consistent basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted April 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 This almost entirely being because CMLL is pissy that ROH guys are working Rush's show make this all the more hilarious. The Lutteroth family is like the McMahons only with less perversion and more ridiculous grudge holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeplastictrees Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 Now I want to see a Dark Side of the Ring centered around the Lutteroth family. How many people will that family pay off to keep quiet? It would hands down be the most interesting episode in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted June 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 Resurrecting this to mention most of the top stars like Andrade and Rush's family is off the show now (they weren't selling tickets so they probably weren't getting the money they promised) and it's doubtful the show will even take place now. So CMLL nuked their partnership with ROH over a show that is probably not going to happen, and if it does, it will go on with none of the people CMLL would have been pissed about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rah Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 Well, now it's definitely not happening. Show got canned. Tickets are refundable but PPV seems to be "not our problem" deals and customers are being told to file a claim via Paypal. Considering the forex discrepancy, where do the CMLL guys go now for a dollar payday? Are they able to work PWG et al? Here I was thinking Paco's death would mean the end of the idiocy but it seems it's all the same shit, just on different toilet paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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