LowBlowPodcast Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, LastStopTour said: I am looking for a Tazmaniac head for you! I thought about an umaga head with some paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastStopTour Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Some of the later Tazmaniac looks didn't even have the face paint, just the long hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Here’s my thought process on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastStopTour Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Not too shabby. Not that it really makes all that much difference in the writing but I would say that I would mark out even moreso to the pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Blehschmidt said: I wasn't intending to start some shit. Seriously just wanted to point out that Beulah spends the next 7 years as a back up dancer for Prince amongst other gigs and not in professional wrestling! and I have no dogs in this fight, so I won't leave any opinion on the meat of this argument, but I did want to comment on one thing Rain said about the deaths. David Von Erich as NWA Champion in 88, creepy? See, I think that would be interesting as hell. I truly hope if this game ever re-boots back to the early 80's or we start another one, that some of the deaths can be looked at on a case by case basis and since we are already booking an alternate history, we can book one where David goes to the doctor, Gino gets help, or Magnum gets home. Then if David lives, do Mike and Kerry do what Mike and Kerry do? Does Mike even become a wrestler? The what if scenarios are endless. It opens up a whole new world of possibilities that in truth are at least as plausible if not more realistic than 1988 Crash Holly or mulleted newcomer Shane Douglas already being the franchise. (No offense meant, just using those as examples.) Personally, I would hope we don't reboot anytime soon because I had a lot of things planned for UWF Newborn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastStopTour Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Control21 said: Personally, I would hope we don't reboot anytime soon because I had a lot of thing planned for UWF Newborn... Agreed ... no reboot. Too much good stuff planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 I didn't realize Crash Holly was so popular Writers tend to go whichever way they choose with regards to using early or later gimmicks, as long as it isn't too out of keeping with the times. I have Flyboy Rocco Rock as Cheetah Kid, Mick Foley as Cactus Jack instead of Mankind, Scotty The Body instead of Raven. I kept Mark Callaway as Texas Red for a long time before morphing him into the Undertaker 2 years early. I also have the Patriot, the Eagle, Crash Holly etc. some years ahead of those gimmicks. It was all for what I needed of them at the time for my writing and roster. It's up to the individual writer's discretion and , as I said, as long as it isn't completely inappropriate for the time period, it's all good. (I have personally refrained from the "Simply The Best" nickname and theme music for Tony St. Clair because Tina Turner's most famous version of that song hadn't come out until mid 1989). Besides, if a particular writer prefers an earlier gimmick for a wrestler, they can write them back into it when they get them onto their own roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 I think Ken "Wayne" Shamrock should be kept on my roster and taken out of the draft based on the fact that he's always been a shoot-style guy. He had a brief run in AJPW in 1989, bounced around a bit in the US as "Vince Torelli," and then tried out for UWF Newborn in 1990 which led to an extended run with UWF, PWFG, and then Pancrase. That's seven years of working shoot-style or UWF-adjacent promotions until he joins WWF in 1997 for a few years before going back to Japan to work for PRIDE and such. Eight years of working in Japan. Clearly, he's always been a guy closer to shoot-style than traditional pro-wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Makes sense, his pro career didn't really amount to much more than the proverbial cup of coffee. Even when he showed up in the WWF, it was as "UFC star Ken Shamrock". Given how rich this particular draft is, I don't see a reall issue in this one guy staying in the shoot style realm, since that was his bread and butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted August 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 I'm fine with it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 I'm not too fussed about this since at the end of the day these are just names on a message board and they have no real bearing on things, but there were two other names that might need some more consideration: 1) Rey Mysterio - Assuming this is Rey Mysterio Jr, he was 14 when he debuted in 1989 and doesn't really get his career going until 1992 with AAA. It might be a better idea to have him for 1992, but if people really want him in the game now, they should probably keep his age in mind. 2) Tajiri- If this is the Tajiri we all know and love, he doesn't debut until 1993/1994 according to Cagematch/Wrestling Data. I can't find anything that suggests he was active in 1989. He might have been a kickboxer somewhere going by his Wikipedia page, but he wasn't active as a professional wrestler as far as I can tell. There's a Wordpress page that claims he debuted in 1989 for IWA Japan, but this is misinformed as there is no record of IWA until 1994. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Control21 said: I'm not too fussed about this since at the end of the day these are just names on a message board and they have no real bearing on things, but there were two other names that might need some more consideration: 1) Rey Mysterio - Assuming this is Rey Mysterio Jr, he was 14 when he debuted in 1989 and doesn't really get his career going until 1992 with AAA. It might be a better idea to have him for 1992, but if people really want him in the game now, they should probably keep his age in mind. 2) Tajiri- If this is the Tajiri we all know and love, he doesn't debut until 1993/1994 according to Cagematch/Wrestling Data. I can't find anything that suggests he was active in 1989. He might have been a kickboxer somewhere going by his Wikipedia page, but he wasn't active as a professional wrestler as far as I can tell. There's a Wordpress page that claims he debuted in 1989 for IWA Japan, but this is misinformed as there is no record of IWA until 1994. I have had some teenagers on my roster, but 14 is pretty young. To borrow a line from Letterkenny, maybe we need to let the paint dry a bit on Rey. Tajiri is listed as debuting in 1989 in wrestling data, but doesn't show any matches until later. Maybe split the difference on both and say 1991? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Since Jeff "JW Storm" Warner is in, I also noticed his partner in Maximum Overdrive, Tim "Hunter" Hunt also made his debut in 1989. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted August 13, 2023 Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 1 hour ago, rainmakerrtv said: I have had some teenagers on my roster, but 14 is pretty young. To borrow a line from Letterkenny, maybe we need to let the paint dry a bit on Rey. Tajiri is listed as debuting in 1989 in wrestling data, but doesn't show any matches until later. Maybe split the difference on both and say 1991? It's weird because if you click on the matches for Tajiri on WD, it only goes back as far as 1993. Not sure where they got 1989 from because I'm struggling to find anything on 1989 for Tajiri. And all the google results I'm seeing say he debuted in IWA Japan in 1989, but IWA Japan didn't exist then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted August 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2023 I am fine taking Rey Mysterio out and Tajiri out.  I know where Rey Mysterio game from https://prowrestling.fandom.com/wiki/Category:1989_debuts Not sure how Tajiri got on the list but he was not in the North America at this time so he should be removed. This should go for others on the list also if there are any not from North America.   All of this is the reason I supported the 10 match in a year rule before we put them in the game.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 Also worth noting Atsushi Onita didn't work any North American dates in 1989. At that point, he was getting ready to launch FMW (late 1989) and wouldn't make any North American appearances until much later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted September 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 Onita did work in North America in 1980, 1981, and 1982. He is someone we missed as a foreign wrestler who has spent previous time in North America which makes him eligible to return based on our rules. Once someone has spent time here, we deemed it logically that they may return as some point with the right offer. He is still okay to be drafted.  I am fine revisiting this rule if others wish to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 Sure but he wasn't a rookie at this point and he would be eligible to be picked up by someone now if they wanted him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted September 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 When we decided this rule, Rain did some research and found a list of people we had missed and we decided to add them to this draft. If you would like him, I am fine with that. Just claim him as a roster transaction.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, kevinmcfl said: When we decided this rule, Rain did some research and found a list of people we had missed and we decided to add them to this draft. If you would like him, I am fine with that. Just claim him as a roster transaction.   You just gave me a cool idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 I object! @Control21 cannot have Onita! Transaction overruled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, MLB said: I object! @Control21 cannot have Onita! Transaction overruled! FMW in 1988 would be pretty fun, maybe you can bring some of that magic here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 Onita spent 88 still on the shelf, though. I am good with him going to a Japanese group in 89 but he was out of action until then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, Control21 said: FMW in 1988 would be pretty fun, maybe you can bring some of that magic here. All good, I'm fooling around!  I am so immersed in '96 and I am pouring everything into that project. I was just peeking in on the thread and acknowledging a kayfabe rivalry with @Control21, I am sure he has interesting plans with Onita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control21 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, rainmakerrtv said: Onita spent 88 still on the shelf, though. I am good with him going to a Japanese group in 89 but he was out of action until then. He did wrestle in December 1988 for Ryuma Go's promotion so I don't think a few months is a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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