BruiserBrody Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Black Bart's shoot is awesome for sheer BS level: He claims Dusty Rhodes came up with the Undertaker gimmick, and that Black Bart was supposed to play that character. He also claims he's the biggest locker room legend in today's WWE (for his antics back in the day) Piper had a warrant for his arrest, so Bart pulled a car up to the ring w/ Piper in the trunk, popped it, Piper wrestled, and then hopped back in the trunk and they took off. Oh God, Black Bart actually just claimed he was offered 180 grand to star in a Fox Network sitcom based on his, Dutch and Moondog Rex "Desperodos" gimmick. Flair told The TBS execs "We can't have these jabronis star in a show" So WCW released them and the Sitcom was canceled. Ronnie Garvin would get sexually excited when you worked "stiff" with him. He actually called himself vs Sam Houston a "Main event" match. Of course the place was sold out, and of course they had such a great match, the other 4 "Main Events" of the evening couldn't compare. Vince McMahon wanted to bring him in and work the upper midcard and offered him a "job for life", Bart declined, so when he went to WWF a year or 2 later, Vince made him a jobber out of spite. A week after Mike Von Erich got out of the hospital, Bart carried him in a match for 45 minutes, then asked the ref "Is this the boy who just got out of the hospital?" After the ref said yes, Bart said "Oh **** " and took Mike down and pinned him. When David Von Erich died he laid in his hotel room for 2 weeks with the A/C shut off and stayed there til Fritz came to Japan 2 weeks later and snagged the body. He claimed to have threatened Jose Gonzalez (Brody's killer) with a knife shortly after Brody's death. Bart said in 1991 the ring crew was all 18 or 19 year old ***** men, and Vince had a tour bus for them, and would spend an odd amount of time on the bus with the gays. He also says Lanny Poffo was gay, and came on to him. Vince found out Bart told Lanny off, and Bart was released shortly there after... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 All sounds reasonable to me. I heard a rumor that Black Bart wrote Vanessa Williams' hit song "Save the Best For Last", and he came up with the idea of casting Fabio in the I Can't Believe It's Not Butter commercials. But this is unconfirmed and obviously there are forces out there who wouldn't want you to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 The development of the Undertaker gimmick is interesting. We all know that the IWCCW team Double Trouble/The Undertakers was the direct "inspiration". By the way, is there any footage of them online? Anyways, there was a prior case of an Undertaker wrestling for the McMahons. He was the 70s WWWF undercard guy Hans Schroeder, who mostly used the gimmick in Japan for IWE. But I also found a date where Schroeder did double duty WWWF @ Cherry Hill, NJ - September 4, 1974 Stan Lavdas defeated the Undertaker via disqualification Francisco Flores defeated Davey O'Hannon Manuel Soto defeated Jack Evans Pat Barrett defeated Hans Schroeder Dominic DeNucci defeated Johnny Rodz Ivan Putski defeated Cpt. Lou Albano I wonder if that gimmick was a generic masked man gimmick or a predecessor to the popular gimmick we know. Maybe the gimmick evolved when Schroeder did independent shows during the 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I'm ready for a book on the history of wrestling -- a collaborative project written by Black Bart, Hulk Hogan, and Kurt Angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think King Diamond spent a little too much time at backstage catering. And one of 'em is Big Val Puccio! The less-talented predecessor to Big Sal! Jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I have a DVD of Undertakers footage that I put together for Val Puccio, I can rip a match or two if anyone wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indikator Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yes please, I bet there are people other than me who would like to see if they used the same mannerisms/moves/outfits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 WWWF @ Cherry Hill, NJ - September 4, 1974 Stan Lavdas defeated the Undertaker via disqualification Francisco Flores defeated Davey O'Hannon Manuel Soto defeated Jack Evans Pat Barrett defeated Hans Schroeder Dominic DeNucci defeated Johnny Rodz Ivan Putski defeated Cpt. Lou Albano Anyone ever see that episode of Hogan Knows Best where Hulk makes reference to the Undertaker injuring him in Detroit in '74? Maybe he wasn't so far off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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