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It's between them and the Fantastics for me as my favorite team from the time period, and I think that the Rose/Somers feud might be better than RnR/Midnights for me, too. Easy Top 10, maybe even Top 5.
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I fucking loved this team. Popped big as an 8-year old for when they lifted the belts from the MVC to the point where I remember vividly running down the hallway yelling to my mom that they won. Looking back, I loved all their big tag work, and the SuperBrawl match with Eaton and Anderson is an all-time favorite for me. I'll find a spot for them.
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The quintessential JCP face team that knew how to work the overbearing heels, with Final Conflict being an absolutely insane match for the time and one of the greatest tag team matches of the 80's. Longevity will hurt them, as well, but Steamboat was too good to keep in a tag team after a while. I think I'll find a spot for them.
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The Midnight Express (Dennis Condrey & Bobby Eaton)
Timbo Slice replied to Grimmas's topic in Tag Teams
Smoothest motherfucking heel team ever. I didn't get to watch this version as much as the Lane version at first, but Condrey was SO good in this setting and Bobby was such a natural that it's tough to go back to the newer team, even if the newer team had the Fantastics to work with more along with the RnRs. I might go Top 5 with them. -
Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams (The Dynamic Duo)
Timbo Slice replied to goodhelmet's topic in Tag Teams
They're like The Awesome Twosome for me in that they worked so well together for a short stint that it's hard not to appreciate what they did, but I really want to find room for them because for a project like this, even if you aren't together for long, if you're a good team, you have to have that show off more than longevity sometimes. -
I think they're overrated because of the Rockers stuff, and while they were an uptempo team, I don't see them as a top-tier team. They were fun to watch, though.
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I think they have a shot here, even though they weren't together for that long. Some really great tag matches in the period, and the more you see them work against all those teams, the more you appreciate them. They shouldn't have broken them up when they did, even though Simmons had star potential at the time, but they had a good run and will be a tough team to keep off the list for me, although it would be at the bottom.
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A no doubter pick, as they have a claim to what might be the best tag match ever and showed they could go against a wide variety of opponents. They were together for a longer time than you would think, too, and although the later work doesn't hold a candle to their earlier work, they were one of the best teams ever when you put it all together.
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The Heavenly Bodies (Jimmy Del Ray & Tom Pritchard)
Timbo Slice replied to Grimmas's topic in Tag Teams
I liked this team more than the Lane/Pritchard team, but not by much. Like Jerome said, it's tough to pick between the two, but it would be hard for me to not have them on my list. -
Kobashi's crybaby antics aside, this was one of the best teams of all time and had a great dynamic that was hard to replicate. They had two years worth of matches against the HDA and never had dull moments, with even their "lesser" matches only seen as such because they hit the absolute peaks of tag team wrestling. I'm toying with the idea of them in my Top 5, but the problem with how they'll place is that as great as the matches were that they were in, they were only a team for over two years and there are a lot of other teams with a long history that, while not hitting the peaks this team did, had enough high points where they might get pushed out.
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Tremendous for the short time they were together, really worked well with gaijin teams and Kawada really found his niche before Ricky left with Onita. I think they'll be on my list, but I'm not quite sure how high yet.
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I think they might be the best of that great group of teams from the 80's. Unbelievable face team, great fire, both Fulton and Rogers could go and they matched up well against everyone they faced all over. Probably the most dynamic team of their era and my favorite to watch a random match of, too. I'm with Joe and Parv on their placement, and I might even put them in my Top 5. They're that good to me.
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Still think there were way better teams than the Fabs, even though they had a good gimmick and Lane, albeit sloppy like Jerome said, wasn't a bad worker. Keirn was fine, but against the Fabs/RnR/MX/Rockers era teams, its tough for them to compete there.
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Rougeaus seemed like a team that wasn't quite right for the time period from a work perspective, but I did enjoy the gimmick as the All-American Boys and felt they brought something to the table. I don't doubt the Montreal part of the act as fired up babyfaces, but I'm not sure it's enough to push them over the top with some of the other teams that are out there.
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I think that time has pushed them aside for some of the other NWA/Mid-South-based teams that were superior, even though people talk up 80's WWF tag wrestling as a great period (and it was to an extent). They had their moments, but overall, I think there are other teams better than they were.
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One of my favorite trios teams ever, as the dynamic with Porky makes them incredibly watchable. I know there are other trios teams from Mexico that probably get more love, but I remember watching them for the first time on the 1990 AJW Wrestlemarinpiad show and Porky flying around like he does absolutely blew me away. I don't know if they get into a Top 25 list, but man alive, they were fun to watch.
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That Hero match really is a truly standout match and he stood out amongst the DG guys that tended to blend together for me, but I don't think he'll make a Top 100 list.
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A totally underrated team, and one that when they had a good team across from them, they were capable of great things. I don't think they'd make a Top 25, but they were one of the few things that stood out for me in TNA.
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Who's better: this team or the MVC?
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I liked FIP Strong as they basically let him use it as his playground since he was from Tampa and he became their main guy, and some of the ROH stuff took a bit to get used to, but in the last year, he figured something out and has blossomed. I'm really interested to see where he goes from here because there are few guys that could legitimately carry ROH right now and I think he's one of them. His best stuff to me is when he was in PWG, and him winning the title against O'Reilly last year was terrific. Really found some energy there. I don't think he'll make my list, but he's pretty underrated.
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I said it in jest, but Ferris is the carniest of carnies for having the HTM gimmick be a heatseeker and figure out how not to take bumps later in his career. He's at least entertaining to watch, which puts him several notches above a lot of the candidates here.
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He's a better cleaner than Kenny Omega. Again, this is all aesthetics here because Rollins and Ambrose are more dynamic workers and bumpers and sellers, but Reigns is more subtle than his contemporaries and it makes his bursts that much more explosive to me. He has plenty of strengths, and even though Joe is wont to throw out Takeshi Morishima as a comparison (when in his best matches he was carried, although he did add plenty), I'll be quick to say that Morishima's best match (Fight Without Honor vs. Danielson) isn't better than Brock/Reigns. You put the Top 25 Reigns matches, singles or tag, and I don't think Morishima's best 25 is there with him. Morishima's best tag match (Wild II vs. KENTA/Marufuji) wasn't better than Shield/Wyatts, and Reigns played a pivotal role in that match where people started realizing he wasn't just some brute and could actually work. One thing I will say is that a lot of the issue with Morishima is that he was clearly someone people wanted more out of and didn't get whereas Reigns has pleasantly surprised people with how he's worked. That's going to get a lot more favor, obviously, but it doesn't change that Reigns has had better matches. Situation was definitely better than Morishima's, but outside of the Danielson stuff, I was unimpressed with his ROH run (Booking didn't help) and his top-flight NOAH stuff always fell flat for me. Reigns will get more opportunities than Morishima did, but I'll also say that Reigns has done way more than Morishima has done with the opportunities he's been given. Neither of them will make my Top 100, but Reigns is someone that in five years might have a Cenaesque resume that can be pointed at as something where people realize just how good a worker he is even if there's a general consensus that he's not.
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He might have the best match ever wrestled on North American soil under his belt, so I'd say that qualifies.
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This is one of those teams that at the time really looked like the best team in the world until you watched enough matches and the stuff got old. The one thing they did have going for them was that they faced some pretty good teams that helped reign them in, but as far as juniors tag teams in the early 2000s go, I'd take Kanemoto and Lyger over these guys.
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I will, but I don't really see a comparison to them and the Bucks. Pasty white dudes that fly around, basically.