Graham Crackers

That match happened on 4/7/2000 and is an awesome spectacle.

The wrestling industry really needs a Body Positive type of movement.

This brings me back to the coke filled promos of Hogan and Warrior for WrestleMania VI. Ford can provide crack fueled promos this time around.

Cena was distracted by Johnny Ace at ringside before the GTS.

Man, maybe I was just marking out but Cena vs Bryan was fucking epic (and pretty brutal as well) and I got completely lost in the match. So much so that, the finish combined with the confetti and the post match celebration that I started thinking that there wasn't going to be any shenanigans. And then there were shenanigans. Otherwise, Punk vs Brock was great too but not as good as the main. Dylan echoed my thoughts earlier when he said it was like a really good Attitude style match.

If this is the WAR game I played it was also really disappointing. The top and bottom thirds of the screen just had closeups of the wrestlers and only the middle third featured the actual gameplay which was my biggest problem with it. Not a great game by any stretch but speaking of really weird Japanese games there is a Pancrase game for the Super Nintendo that is pretty much the opposite of Pancrase. It features wacky masked fighters as well as Street Fighter rejects, you fight in strange locations (out on the street or on a bridge in the mountains), and if I'm recalling this correctly, Funaki is the only actual Pancrase fighter in the game. Has anyone ever played the RINGS game for the Playstation?

I can't find it on youtube but a few years ago someone posted some PPV commercials advertising a "Shootfighting" PPV in the mid 1990s that I think was just UWFi with English commentary. I can't remember the year and I'm not sure how successful it was. Maybe he was thinking of that?

Man, the air that Hamada gets when he gets backdropped is insane.

Thank you so much for posting this.

Both cage matches were in my top 20. I like the idea of the first one being about the Rockers going too far. It reminds me of that match on the NJPW set where Inoki teams with Masa Saito. The finish involved Saito being more interested in hurting the opponent than ending the match so Inoki tags himself in and finishes it while looking disgusted that he could have ever teamed with Saito.

1.) The Midnight Express 2.) Los Infernales 3.) Choshu & Yatsu 4.) Los Brazos 5.) Holy Demon Army

YES! What are the odds I will have this in my hands by the end of August?

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Wahoo McDaniel. The same way Garvin brought out the violent side of Ric so did Wahoo.

Brown went on hiatus for "family issues" and was released months later before retiring. Before all that he was part of the New Breed vs Originals feud and was as featured as any other young wrestler on ECW at the time. Which is to say "not much." True. I'm just saying this isn't a case of a guy in WWE undercard limbo and then released. He was involved in a feud that was represented at Wrestlemania, then he took time off and vanished.

http://www.thehistoryofwwe.com/velocity04.htm http://www.thehistoryofwwe.com/velocity05.htm I can't find anybody with a complete list of Velocity results at the moment but there are these lists.

Brown went on hiatus for "family issues" and was released months later before retiring. Before all that he was part of the New Breed vs Originals feud and was as featured as any other young wrestler on ECW at the time.

Hardcore Pawn makes Pawn Stars look like a Ken Burns documentary. As lame as Pawn Stars can be it's never ruined my immersion like Hardcore Pawn has when they have had cameras inside the customer's cars. It's like that close-up of the Rock's face during the pin in Halftime Heat. The real slick carnies are the guys on Ghost Hunters who have worked my parents to the point that when I imply the whole show is a con they act as if I took a dump on the family bible.

Yeah, storylines on soaps stew for a long time before being blown off but for a while now they have clearly planned their biggest storylines to have major revelations or climaxes during sweeps week. There also the summer storylines aimed towards teen viewers that typically wrap up just before school starts again. Kris, Days of Our Lives is in my blood too. It was my grandmother's favorite show and my mother claims she only watches it because she expects to run into grandma in the afterlife and she'll want to know what she's missed. At this point my mother watches it the same way I was watching WWE shows when I had a TV. She DVR's the show but only watches the parts with the characters she cares about. And as for the whole hiding wrestling from friends thing, I think it's ridiculous the shame some fans have for pro wrestling. I meet tons of people who are/were fans but I also spend most of my time surrounded by artists, musicians, circus freaks, burlesque dancers, drag queens, cartoon historians, and b-movie fans so they're prone to appreciating lowbrow art and culture. Sure, some of my coworkers might scoff at pro wrestling if I brought it up to them but I've also had coworkers tell me hip-hop isn't music and comics are only for kids so what do I care what they think?

I'm not ambitious enough to write some long post about this but I really hope someone on here is/was a big daytime soap opera fan because a soap opera thread on the Pro Wrestling Mostly board would be fantastic. I've been following Days of Our Lives my entire life and as I became a big wrestling fan I started to see the parallels between wrestling booking and the structures of these shows. Yeah, you could argue that most of these things are true of most long running serials but hear me out. I see it in soaps more than I see it in anything else. There are clear heels and faces and are at any given time are anchored by an ace and top heel with smaller stories making up the "midcard." You can even see them pushing characters by giving them the rub of interacting with more important characters so they can be moved up the "card." . Having watched it for so long I have seen them reusing the same storylines after a few years when they will now be fresh kind of like that old Cornette quote about reusing angles. Also, watching Days of Our Lives nowadays is kind of like watching current pro wrestling NOAH.

I saw this posted on another site and I thought it was pertinent to this board's interests: http://www.genickbruch.com/index.php?befeh...0&jahr=2013 Translations: SMZ: Number of shows with known attendance numbers GZS: Total number of shows Schnitt: Average attendance Zuschauer: The total attendance number of all known shows (SMZ) Hochrechn: Estimated total attendance factoring in the total number of shows (GZS) and average attendance numbers (Schnitt) Jahr: is year and you can go back and check other years though obviously there are fewer attendance figures when you go further back in time I'm not aware of attendance figures and what sources you guys use when arguing about that kind of stuff (I'm more interested in talking about wrestling I like and I'd rather read historical info and HOF talk posted by others). This seems like an interesting resource though and I figured I should share it.

Is IWA-MS back? I fucking hope so.

I love this match so much, one of my top three Memphis matches of the 1980's. I would also have it as my MOTY for 1982. I forgot who it was, but in the DVDVR thread for this match, someone compared it to a big time prizefight. It's my favorite match from the Memphis set. For me it feels epic in a way that few matches do and one of the only matches where a double KO feels like a possibility. As for the prizefight comparison, I remember someone comparing the final minutes to the final round of the Thrilla in Manilla. I haven't watched it in a while but I thought that was a call from Lance Russel. Maybe it was just a post in that thread.

Was this made available after it got taken down? Does anybody have it? I hope someone does. I haven't seen it since then but I was talking about it with a friend the other day and it put me in the mood to watch it again.

Based upon the DVDVR 80s sets so far: 1980 - Tatsumi Fujinami vs Kengo Kimura (NJPW, 9/25) 1981 - Jerry Lawler vs Terry Funk (Empty Arena) (CWA, 4/6) 1982 - Jerry Lawler vs Dutch Mantell (Barbed Wire Match) (CWA, 3/29) 1983 - Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee (Loser Leaves Town) (CWA, 6/6) 1984 - Antonio Inoki, Tatsumi Fujinami, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Kengo Kimura & Nobuhiko Takada vs Riki Choshu, Animal Hamaguchi, Yoshiaki Yatsu, Isamu Teranishi & Kuniaki Kobayashi (Gauntlet Match) (NJPW, 4/19) 1985 - Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs Super Tiger (UWF, 9/11) 1986 - Antonio Inoki, Tatsumi Fujinami, Kengo Kimura, Umanosuke Ueda & Kantaro Hoshino vs Akira Maeda, Yoshiaki Fujiwara, Osamu Kido, Nobuhiko Takada & Kazuo Yamazaki (Elimination Match) (NJPW, 3/26) 1987 - Riki Choshu vs Yoshiaki Fujiwara (NJPW, 6/9) 1988 - Genichiro Tenryu & Toshiaki Kawada vs Stan Hansen & Terry Gordy (AJPW, 12/16) 1989 - Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs Kazuo Yamazaki (UWF, 7/24) Other years I'm confident about: 1990 - Angel Azteca vs El Dandy (EMLL, 6/1) 1992 - Negro Casas vs El Dandy (EMLL, 7/5) 1993 - Genichiro Tenryu vs Shinya Hashimoto (NJPW, 8/8) 1994 - Mitsuharu Misawa vs Toshiaki Kawada (AJPW, 6/3) 1995 - Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue (AJPW, 6/9) 2000 - Atlantis vs Villano III (Mask vs Mask) (CMLL, 3/17) 2004 - JBL vs Eddie Guerrero (WWE, 5/16) 2007 - Nigel McGuinness vs Austin Aries (ROH, 12/29) 2008 - Yuki Ishikawa, Alexander Otsuka & Munenori Sawa vs Daisuke Ikeda, Katsumi Usuda & Super Tiger II (Elimination Match) (BattlArts, 7/26) 2009 - Mike Quackenbush, Kendo & Solar vs Negro Navarro, Mr. Ferrari & Claudio Castagnoli (Invasion Azteca, 3/8) 2010 - Makoto Hashi & Kengo Mashimo vs Daisuke Ikeda & Takahiro Oba (FUTEN 10/24) 2011 - Virus vs Guerrero Maya Jr. (CMLL, 6/7) 2012 - John Cena vs Brock Lesnar (WWE, 4/29) 1986 is a major candidate for me. The 10 man elimination from NJPW is my MOTY but Choshu/Yatsu vs Jumbo/Tenryu and Hijo Del Santo vs Espanto Jr are some of my favorite matches of all time.