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[1995-01-30-WWF-Raw] 1-2-3 Kid & Bob Holly vs Smoking Gunns
Loss replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
Joined in progress. They seem to be working more aggressively than they did in the match the week before. They work an injury angle and Kid is stretchered out. Everyone does a really good job selling this. I wish this had led to a triumphant comeback match at Wrestlemania or something. -
You can tell just based on his announcing that Vince absolutely adores this version of Backlund. I really hate it when the announcers talk over the in-ring interview, which seems to be an 80s/90s WWF thing. Backlund applies the Crossface Chicken Wing on Lawler and Lawler immediately says, "I quit, Mr. Bob Backlund" to get out of it. I cracked up at Backlund's misuse of "yours truly". Backlund is now insisting that he will no longer break the hold unless the person to whom it is applied has the same response.
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This was really, really entertaining. The best comparison I can make is that this is the SMW version of Over The Edge '98. It's not exactly the same, but in terms of doing a lot of extracurricular bullshit that is consistent with the storyline and motivations of the participants -- and also that is funny -- they're pretty much the same. Lawler's argument with Granny at ringside before the match starts is epic and keeps going and going. Buddy Landell is the guest timekeeper. At the beginning of the match, Lawler asks for more time before they get started so he can go fight an annoying fan at ringside. Not to be outdone, Landell gets in a racist joke ("If you're looking for the Dirty White Girl, she's in the parking lot with the Gangstas"), and pulls out all his typical heel-on-a-spot-show stuff -- grabbing the mic, hiding the foreign object, etc. Some love it, some hate it. Buddy should do time calls for every match ever. And the finish is brilliant -- Landell grabs the mic and declares that the 60-minute time limit has expired even though they hadn't been in the ring anywhere near that long! Mark Curtis restarts the match and fires Buddy Landell as timekeeper. Landell ends up slugging him, then sneaks into help Lawler win the SMW title. Then, we segue into a Lights Out match between Landell and DWB that ends quickly -- with a frustrated, still groggy Curtis counting Buddy down for a fast count. Still, Buddy is dominant and gets all the heat. See this.
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[1995-01-28-SMW-Super Saturday Night Fever] Buddy Landell vs Tracy Smothers
Loss replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
Yeah, the match is preceded by reputation, and I wonder if that's what ended up hurting it for me. I think my expectations were too high. It didn't feel like there was much rhythm to what they were doing. Hold, accusation of hair pulling, move, accusation of hair pulling ... all the first five minutes of a match stuff happening until the very last few minutes of it when they just suddenly started trading nearfalls without anything really happening in between. I probably shouldn't say "without anything", actually, and instead I should just say "I wish there was more in between" -- they looked to have had an awesome slugfest at ringside that sadly the camera didn't really capture. There are some things I liked, namely Buddy's selling of Tracy's slap and hiptoss, and his always awesome elbowdrops. I agree with Frankensteiner that Tracy's pandering really hurt the match. I think it worked against him as a babyface.- 4 replies
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I kindly request the case to be made for anything posted here. Even a supplemental will have limited space, and we will probably get more recommendations than we have room for. I have to say I'm a little disappointed that all the Joshi talk is centering around what's not included instead of what is included.
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[1995-01-28-WCW-Saturday Night] Randy Savage vs Arn Anderson
Loss replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
I think the main thing to take away from this is how far off the mark Vince was on how much value Hogan and Savage still had. In this case, Savage works a solid match with Arn Anderson and continues to get a superstar reaction. Vince could have gotten at least 2-3 more years out of him on top, and the champions of the time would have benefitted from working with the biggest name the WWF had left. This is not a great match or anything, as neither guy is what they were a few years before this. But neither is washed up either. Savage I think we knew had scaled things down a little bit, but in this match, Arn Anderson had dropped slightly from where he was in 1992 where I last saw him. He's really narrowed the "stuff" he does, but everything he does still looks really good. Very interesting match.- 8 replies
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Alex Wright holds victories over some of the biggest names in the history of our great sport -- namely Steve Austin, HHH and Chris Jericho!
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As these things would be considered for a supplemental set, please only recommend things you have seen. We went through matchlists in putting together the yearbook the first time around, so this thread should not be for listing things that look intriguing on paper -- only for things you have seen and know are worth watching. Thanks.
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Just to clarify, this thread is to talk about/reflect on 1995, not make match recommendations. I'm opening another thread now.
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Went through all of it. Shawn/Davey Boy was the only thing that really stood out and we ended up having to cut it for space.
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That no good dork Lee Marshall tries to put one over on Alex Wright, but Germans are honest! When asked if he ever watched American Bandstand, he says, "I don't watch that kind of programming."
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This thread had me thinking about Alex Wright for the first time in forever. The guy had tons of potential. Check out this amazing promo directed toward the terrible people of Norfolk, VA, who refuse to even sympathize with the guy. Heartless jerks.
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With this theme in mind, the Saito-Zbyszko AWA title changes are hopefully going on this set. Marking the end of one of the largest US Promotions between 1960 - 90 seems appropriate, and having at least one of those bouts on the set makes sense. (Either that, or the Iron man Survivor Battleroyal from the Team Challenge series, which was hideous but possibly the last match the AWA ever ran for TV. Race vs. Zbyszko for the AWA title could work ,too.) I don't think you need more than 1 AWA match to make the point that the promotion died in 1990, but it's a relevant point that needs highlighting. Absolutely. The plan is to put both title changes and Zbyszko/Race. How is Larry/Nikita as a match? I was actually going to reach out to you soon because we want to represent the Team Challenge Series somehow, but I didn't want to spend too much time on it, so I was going to ask you what singular clip would capture it well. Is there an interview you could point me to that sums up how embarrassing Eric Bischoff was as an AWA announcer? He also had gray hair at this point, right?
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Pessimistic? Consider this. I would be surprised if anyone disagrees with me, although some may. 95% of the time, wrestling sucks and is embarrassing to watch in front of other people. Probably 98% of the time, things that start off well end terribly. But the remaining small percentage is pretty good and sometimes awesome. Every wrestling fan is trained to put up with a certain amount of crap because you never know when you're going to get something good. It's that small percentage that keeps me watching, because when it's good, it's usually really good. I'm not saying that to bash the modern scene, by the way. This has been the case as long as I have watched, probably longer. I also find it interesting that Coffey looks at modern WWE as a social thing, considering that I currently don't know anyone in real life that watches wrestling, and even during the peaks of the Attitude era didn't know very many people who did. Some people think the complaining is annoying. To me, nothing is more annoying than people telling other people they shouldn't dislike something, because the company still makes money. It's a bad argument.
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[1995-01-28-WCW-Saturday Night] Brian Pillman on Baywatch set
Loss replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
Brian, that hair, those shorts ... they use stock music that sounds like "Far From Over", which brings back memories of hype to Starrcade. I guess I should give WCW credit for trying to make Pillman seem important, but the guy had been cut off at the legs every time he got hot during his six years with the company, so it's a little too late.- 4 replies
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Video/montage thing of Vader talking smack on Hogan mixed in with some good clips. Pretty well-produced.
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I think booker at the time Ric Flair was a fan of Wright, and from watching this video, which I'll comment on in a second, you'd think they wanted to push Wright to draw girls. As we know, it's usually best to establish a blowjob babyface as tough before going overboard with the push to balance things out. I think they were trying that with the Arn feud, but he had already been in a few months so he had a label on him. I was always disappointed by Alex Wright's plight in wrestling. I do think he had potential, and I think he started as a green, but athletic wrestler and eventually became really good. I LOVE his 1997 heel turn, and Berlyn may have worked in a different time and company than the cursed 1999 WCW. Now, for the video -- others may see it differently, but I wouldn't say this is so much gay as it is incredibly cheesy. Maybe someone better than me could make the argument that there was an attempt to tap into the dance/rave culture of the time. It made me smile, and it's goofy, harmless fun. Did anyone else find it funny that Wright really only had once dance move?
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[1995-01-21-USWA-TV] Interview: Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert
Loss replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
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Perhaps the most preposterous spot in wrestling history and one of the most preposterous segments in wrestling history too. Hogan is unconscious, so Savage does a big elbow to revive him. Suddenly, Hogan, who hasn't even broken a sweat, is a new man. From here to the finish, the match is pretty actively bad. Vader runs in and knocks Savage out of the ring, as he wants a face-off with Hogan. Vader ends up powerbombing Hogan and splitting his pants in the process, but Hogan no-sells it before running Vader off. Why would we even want a match between these two now? Hogan has taken his best shot and lived to not only tell about it, but run him off and pose to close out the show. "You thought the 80s were hot? The 90s are gonna burn your feet! WCW, wow ..." -- Bobby Heenan, seemingly not aware that the decade is already halfway over, and possibly comparing WCW to a case of Athlete's Foot
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[1995-01-25-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXX] Sting vs Avalanche
Loss replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
Last few minutes. Special referee the Guardian Angel turns on Sting and declares himself Big Bubba Rogers again. Tenta may have been an underrated wrestler, as this was better than I thought it would be. Bubba never called for the bell despite Avalanche submitting, so Nick Patrick comes in to stop the match. Bubba takes exception and ends up in a shouting match with Sting. Alex Wright and Stars and Stripes make a quick save, so this moment gets cut a little short.- 14 replies
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Typical Hogan/Savage promo. Not much to it. But the Hogan Hotline commercial was glorious. "It's got 8 incredible options, like Beat The Hulk, Hulk Trivia, and one of my great Hulk messages!" There's no way Hogan realizes how desperate he came off to rape and pillage WCW at this point.
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[1995-01-25-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXX] Interview: Ric Flair
Loss replied to Loss's topic in January 1995
THAT'S NOT STARS AND STRIPES. Instead, it's Ric Flair, flanked by two women and getting a significant "We've missed you" pop, as this was his first appearance after Halloween Havoc '94. I know I certainly did at the time -- WCW was the shits without him. Vader is at ringside too, and Flair ensures him there are no problems. This is really Flair just walking around being Flair (no interview), but at this point, it was better than no Flair at all.- 4 replies
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Shane Douglas trashes the Florida crowd and issues an open challenge to the crowd. They pelt him with trash, but no one takes him up on his challenge -- except Tully Blanchard! They fight as Joey Styles keeps beating the point over the head that this is The Old Tully Blanchard, past the point of annoyance. Styles sucked. But a slingshot suplex does not suck! Benoit and Malenko come to the rescue and Tully gets triple-teamed, which makes me feel bad, because Tully would never dare participate in a 3-on-1 situation against someone else. Douglas locks in a figure four to close out the episode of TV. Cool to see Tully this late.
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