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I have a feeling HHH is going to be pretty awful when he comes back. He fell off a lot after one quad tear, and I can't imagine what two quad tears are going to do to him. Especially when he's going to be a babyface for a long time, and he's so not good at it.

Punk sure is heavily featured for a guy who everyone supposedly hates. Why does he even have a job if that's the case?

In the case of Brian Adams, perhaps it can be blamed on Scientology.

"Roll a fatty for this pimp daddy."

Also, if you induct Jesse Ventura, you create a slippery slope and there's no way NOT to induct Hiroshi Hase at that point. Far better and more important career (as both a wrestler and a booker) and far better political career as well.

WCW braintrusts and live animals is a recipe for disaster in any universe.

It's a little needless on TNA's part, although Wojcik being seemingly incapable of just going to a wrestling show and not "reporting" is humorous.

All of those names but Test (and maybe Test too, actually) would still be in the company featured semi-prominently if they were healthy, willing and not self destructive.

If an 18-year old makes a serious attempt at getting into pro wrestling, I would guess he would learn rather quickly (within months) exactly what he needed to do to get the desired physique to get noticed, if he didn't already know going in. You don't actually *see* the groupies letting rock stars snort coke off of their breasts either, but don't tell me that's not a reason a lot of teenagers have bands in their garages.

It's an influence, yes, absolutely. I'm just debating how important heel color guys are in wrestling. I was all for inducting the Freebirds on the strength of pioneering entrance music for wrestlers, because that's made a difference in a lot of careers. But I'm not sure that the heel color guy has had the same impact on pro wrestling that entrance music has.

It's supposed to create good discussion. In theory anyway.

Bullshit argument. Since the drug use takes place behind closed doors and isn't even referred to on-camera, there's no way kids could emulate it. This ain't exactly like Snoop puffing a blunt in a music video. I ... are you serious? Don't be dense.

"Child with unwed parents" would probably work. That was hard.

How about Ric Flair returning to WCW after Bischoff sued him in 1998? Or Lex Luger leaving the WWF with no notice to appear on the first Nitro? In Luger's case, he made a lot of money in the jump, but he's now living in a minister's basement when otherwise he'd probably STILL be getting on and off pushes due to his look.

He's probably fundamentally right, but his reaction is a little over the top and heavy-handed.

I can only hope this results in Mike Tenay and Don West trying to be like WWE with subtle and not so subtle insults toward Congress on television. Also, here's hoping Gabe Sapolsky is next.

If his wrestling career and mainstream fame were not totally independent of each other, I'd think there was a case. But he didn't become famous because of anything having to do with wrestling.

Lots of people already think there are two Kanes, and that they swapped out wrestlers after he unmasked.

Because his wrestling career itself was not really HOF worthy. Does being a governor have anything to do with wrestling?

I might as well label this a rhetorical question, but why is Bill Watts in the HOF as a promoter when Jim Crockett and Jerry Jarrett were more successful for a longer period of time and more competitive, but aren't?

I have trouble completely buying that. He ran the Meadowlands, he promoted Starrcade, he had the world champ. Maybe business was down from the late 70s, but I guess I need numbers.

I agree. Does putting one's best foot forward really make him a conman?

Pretty sure Crockett took over from his dad in 1975. So you'd be judging him as a promoter from 1975-1988, the time period in which Flair became a superstar and the territory expanded nationally. It didn't end well, but I think he has a better case than the already-inducted Bill Watts. There's a perception that business was in the toilet in the early 80s, but I don't know how true that is, considering that is when he promoted the first Starrcade, and he controlled the world title.

People talk about Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels breaking down size barriers, but guys like Bret and Shawn were able to get work in the big man's WWF for years before either became a big star. Rey getting hired and getting over opened the door for lots of smaller guys to get hired and get over. Rey's influence is phenomenal.

The Rock & Rolls were a big part of Crockett's success in 1985-1986 as well. There were lots of things clicking in JCP at that point, but the Rock & Rolls programs with the Russians, Midnight Express and Four Horsemen were all hugely successful. Flair/Morton was drew well, and they had some great matches. In '94, SMW was in many cases drawing comparable house show attendance to WCW (or even outdrawing shows headlined by Flair/Hogan matches), without the benefits of national television exposure and WCW's all-star lineup on top. Yes, Morton carried Gibson, and there were other teams wrestling at the same time whose stuff holds up in some cases better (re: Fantastics), but to me, the only US tag team that has a better case is the Road Warriors, who are already in. In five years or so, many people will be arguing for Matt and Jeff to be going in as a team. I don't see a Hardys argument (which is definitely there) without a Rock & Rolls argument.