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I'm stuck on the pass code thing. Am I supposed to make one up or is it supposed to give me one? Because I tried making one up and it told me it was incorrect.

Oh, I'm extremely excited about this. Conceivably, everything from really great message board threads to title histories to resources to Observer ratings to other ratings to whatever other category we want to create can be added. I think it's a great thing. I just haven't been able to commit to it yet.

Vote for the wrestler that you think had the better career in WWE (whether you base that on impact or match quality is your decision), from 1985 to 2005. Voting will end tomorrow morning at the latest. Please give the wrestler's name first and any explanation thereafter. Thanks. PLEASE ONLY VOTE IF YOU ARE CHANGING YOUR VOTE FROM THE PREVIOUS MATCH BETWEEN THESE TWO. THANK YOU.

Vote for the wrestler that you think had the better career in WWE (whether you base that on impact or match quality is your decision), from 1985 to 2005. Voting will end tomorrow morning at the latest. Please give the wrestler's name first and any explanation thereafter. Thanks.

Vote for the wrestler that you think had the better career in WWE (whether you base that on impact or match quality is your decision), from 1985 to 2005. Voting will end tomorrow morning at the latest. Please give the wrestler's name first and any explanation thereafter. Thanks.

Vote for the wrestler that you think had the better career in WWE (whether you base that on impact or match quality is your decision), from 1985 to 2005. Voting will end tomorrow morning at the latest. Please give the wrestler's name first and any explanation thereafter. Thanks.

Vote for the wrestler that you think had the better career in WWE (whether you base that on impact or match quality is your decision), from 1985 to 2005. Voting will end tomorrow morning at the latest. Please give the wrestler's name first and any explanation thereafter. Thanks.

Vote for the wrestler that you think had the better career in WWE (whether you base that on impact or match quality is your decision), from 1985 to 2005. Voting will end tomorrow morning at the latest. Please give the wrestler's name first and any explanation thereafter. Thanks.

Vote for the wrestler that you think had the better career in WWE (whether you base that on impact or match quality is your decision), from 1985 to 2005. Voting will end tomorrow morning at the latest. Please give the wrestler's name first and any explanation thereafter. Thanks.

Randy Savage

Mick Foley

Eddy Guerrero I think he's better than Chris Benoit in every conceivable way.

Chris Benoit

Shawn Michaels

Chris Benoit

Chris Benoit Jericho's best is better than Benoit's best, but Benoit never had anything as awful as that Rhyno match at Summerslam 2001.

Steve Austin

Perhaps he is asking the question. According to Dave Meltzer, the Cocoa Puffs were the only ones that would put Marie over.

Coffey, you must not remember the Lawler/Paul E. feud in 1997. Of course Lawler was going to say those things. And wrestling is fake. Whether he meant them or not, he was instructed to say those things. There's no ad-libbing in WWE. None. As for hating the Memphis style, I don't know what to say in retaliation to that quite honestly, except that 95% of ECW was overbooked crap, bad wrestling, and storylines without payoffs.

I remember how depressing this entire PPV was, because they put the heels over all night. Benoit and Malenko jobbed after being booked as the huge underdogs in the tag tournament, getting eliminated once in a double elimination match and having to do twice as many matches to get to the finals. They set it up perfectly for them to go over, especially considering that it was Hennig and Windham that *put* them in the loser's bracket, and then they did the job? Hennig and Windham were so over the hill and without heat at this point as well. Then, you had what was supposed to be Kevin Nash teaming with Lex Luger against Rey Misterio Jr and Konnan, with Liz's hair being on the line against Rey's mask. Not to mention that had both Luger and Nash's hair been on the line, or even one of them, this match would have actually made a difference in the buyrate. Luger ended up injuring his bicep because of what was a story in itself with him and Konnan getting into an argument mid-match on a house show and Konnan apparently getting clumsy when Luger put him in the torture rack, causing Luger to tear his bicep. So Hall pulled double duty. Then, you had Hall winning the US title, which he never defended, and he was off of TV until that fall, because he got drunk that night after the PPV and somehow ended up having a moving vehicle run over his foot. The US title, which originally would have had a fine match in Bret/Benoit, was switched to Hall/Piper to fuck Bret over, to fuck Benoit over (who jobbed to Hall the same night he took the fall in the match where he was eliminated in the aforementioned tag tournament) and because Hall felt that since he had gone like a month without incident that it somehow entitled him to a big reward push. Nash obliged, not surprisingly. Then, you had Chris Jericho and Perry Saturn continuing a feud that ran its course in very quick fashion with Jericho going over by nefarious means to set up a rematch no one really cared to see -- a dog collar match at Uncensored. They were fucking with Jericho for not resigning by sticking him in a go-nowhere feud that was booked miserably with a guy he had absolutely no chemistry with in the ring. Saturn was also someone who dared to get over without permission, and in a meeting the WCW braintrusts had shortly before this show, both Jericho and Saturn, along with Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Raven, Kanyon, Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit and Konnan, were put on a list of guys to bury. They succeeded admirably in their goal. Then you had Ric Flair v Hulk Hogan in the main event. This was the match almost everyone was saying would be their "last shot" with WCW; that they were going to buy the show and if Flair went over, they'd continue watching the product and if Hogan went over they were giving up. I think this is the only reason this show drew such an impressive buyrate, to see Flair go over after the buildup had totally screwed him at every turn. Hogan won after his son turned on him, which they somehow turned into Flair being a bad guy because his son hated him. In fact, the double turn that followed this match killed off all the drawing power both guys had left, and they never posted a high buyrate again in the main event spot of a WCW PPV. Not to mention that Hogan worked as the babyface in the main event and then cheated to win in the end, making Flair look outsmarted, outwrestled and whatever else. The booking for this card was an absolute disaster from start to finish,

I also tend to think Jerry Lynn is probably the worst guy ever that's considered a good-great worker. I can't think of anyone I'd rather watch ... retire.