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TNA sues for breach of contract, maybe? I dunno. But, Bix is right, WWE has mentioned TNA before anyway, on the Hardys' DVD when Jeff went there the first time, and Flair (ironically enough) took a shot at them on one of the legends shows. That would assume that TNA actually has a written contract relating to their consent of Flair's appearance. Chances of that are? John
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I got the brother/father/sister stuff. I frankly didn't give a shit about it in the parts of the build up that I watched: I fucking HATE that type of bullshit "I'm shooting now!" storyline. The "gift" from Ace was boring to me. These two goofballs started a storyline around comparing workrate cocks on being the World's Best. Neither one of them looked like it in that match. To the fans watching the show, they got blown off the stage by a pair of broken down guys, someone whose had one match in more than half a decade, and someone that half the fans in the WWE want to boo out of the building. Punk-Jericho was the equiv of Mark Sanchez claiming to be a Franchise QB only to see his team sign Tim Tebow: his own team thinks a non-franchise QB is an interesting potential alternative. In terms of vacuum, we watch Punk-Cena from MitB earlier in the day. Last year's MOTY wasn't terribly compelling/interesting nearly a year removed from Punk's "I'm shooting now!" mic spot. In turn, we watched Hansen & Tenryu vs Baba & Kimura from the 1989 RWTL that people were creaming over themselves on the DVDVR. And while there were stretches where Kimura's headbutt centric offense had Hoback and Yohe wondering why I put it in, just about every time they'd say something about it, someone in the match would do something that would get a "wow!" or a "damn!" out of them. Talk about a vacuum match since they weren't watching the rest of the 80s set or the '89 RWTL. It was just some guys beating the shit out if each other, working heat spots, and Doing Shit. Punk-Jericho didn't work on that level for them, nor with the other two who watched the PPV with us. John
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No, it was really boring as fuck in a Wrestlemania Stadium Show setting. Would have been perfectly fine on a PPV in 2-3 months. On this card, in this setting, infront of these fans... it was boring. Which again strikes me as Punk and Jericho getting lost in the punch of what works for *them* and their circle of fans that is a far smaller % of those in the building and are watching at home *this event*. The Artist is quite a fun movie. It works for an audience that appreciates it. Drop it onto opening night of Twilight with 4000 theaters packed with Twilight fans and... you'll have a % of fans who enjoy it because they like both Twilight and The Artist. You'll also have a vastly larger % that are bored as fuck. That was Jericho-Punk: people wanted to see the two stop jerking off in the ring to their own fantasies and start Doing Shit. When did they eventually get heat? When they were Doing Shit. Gotta know your real audience, not just the one in your head or you're narrower circle of fans. Especially when you're effectively the #3 match on the card, and of those top three the only one filled with two guys who are going to involved in carrying the week-to-week of the promotion after Mania. John
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Punk-Jericho bored the shit out of the crowd at Casa del Hoback, and it wasn't just Yohe, Hoback and me. Two of James friends were there. One is a long time regular watcher of the WWE, clearly "smart" to the business, but not a newsletter reader like us. The other actually trained at APW back in the early days, so certainly has a different perspective than us. If you could best describe the common thread/theme of how people viewed it, everyone felt like the match just sat there. Solid in general, but a match that would have worked better on a July or December PPV indoors and away from the big epic stage where there are Rock-Cena and Taker-Trip type of matches. There was the sense, and generally agreed upon by everyone, that the two didn't really know (or get) how to layout a match that worked in the setting, especially after Taker-Trip and right before the crowd was looking forward to Cena-Rock. Jericho and Punk really needed to layout a match that sucked folks in, hooked then and kept them... most importantly not wasting time. Instead, Jericho and Punk had in mind the match they wanted to work. The silly DQ stuff didn't help. I'd qualify all that with the comment that none of the five of us are Punk Marks. None are Punk Haters (i.e. like people who hate Davey Richards or Shawn Michaels) either. No one went into these with the predisposition to like/love/cut it slack because it was one of their favorites out there. Most of us went into it generally hoping for a good match. No one really thought it was good, nor really thought it was the drizzling shits. We did all this the Taker-Trip and Rock-Cena hit the marks for what they were suppose to be. John
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The WWF probably had some really amazing "internal computerized records" in 1987. More likely if they were computer records, Dave saw something that was put together later. John
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There's probably not a whole lot of it, as you've nailed so much.
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What If Vince Ran With Slaughter Instead Of Hogan
jdw replied to KrisZ's topic in Megathread archive
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NJPW 1991 Posted by cNJ March 05, 2000 18:22:59 U.S. CST 02/02/91 Saito & Chono vs. Choshu & Hase ***1/4 02/02/91 Vader vs. Fujinami (IWGP title change) ***3/4 02/16/91 Liger & Koshinaka & Aoyagi vs. Machine & Goto & Honaga ***1/4 03/02/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Muto vs. Vader & St. Clair & Rheingans ***1/4 03/09/91 Choshu & Fujinami vs. Vader & Brown *** 03/09/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Strong Machine & Saito (IWGP Tag title change) ***1/4 03/16/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Koshinaka & Iizuka ****1/4 03/16/91 Vader & Machine vs. Fujinami & Choshu ***1/2 04/20/91 Liger vs. Nogami ***1/2 04/20/91 Liger vs. Finlay ***1/4 04/27/91 Liger vs. Casas ***3/4 04/27/91 Fujinami & Koshinaka vs. Machine & H. Saito ***1/4 04/27/91 Norton & Samoans vs. Muto & Choshu & Chono *** 05/04/91 Liger vs. Owen Hart ****1/2 05/04/91 Steiners vs. Hase & Sasaki (Dome Match) ****1/2 05/04/91 Muto & Choshu & Fujinami vs. Norton & Samoans **** 05/11/91 Choshu & Fujinami vs. Hase Sasaki ***3/4 05/11/91 Honaga vs. Liger (IWGP Jr. title change) **** 06/01/91 Steiners vs. Hase & Sasaki **** 06/01/91 Fujinami vs. Chono *** 06/22/91 Duk & Kuriso vs. H. Saito & Goto *** 06/22/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Machine & Pegasus Kid ***3/4 06/29/91 Liger & Koshinaka & Kobayashi vs. Pegasus & Goto & Honaga *** 06/29/91 Machine & H. Saito vs. Hase & Sasaki ***3/4 07/13/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Muto & Chono ****1/4 07/20/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Muta & TNT **** 07/27/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Chono & Hashimoto vs. Vader & Bigelow & TNT & Kokina & Samu ***1/2 08/03/91 Vader & Bigelow vs. Muto & Chono ***1/2 08/10/91 Norton vs. Muto (G1) *** 08/10/91 Vader vs. Fujinami (G1) ***1/4 08/24/91 Chono vs. Hashimoto (G1) ***3/4 08/24/91 Chono vs. Muto (G1 Final) ****1/2 09/07/91 Chono & Koshinaka & Hase & Sasaki vs. Hashimoto & Rookies ***1/4 09/21/91 Hashimoto & Hase vs. Duk & Kurisu ***1/4 09/21/91 Fujinami & Muto & Chono vs. Norton & Samoans ***1/2 11/23/91 R Steiner & Norton vs. Hase & Muto (IWGP Tag) ***1/2 11/23/91 Fujinami vs. Chono (IWGP) ***1/4 12/07/91 Saito & Honaga vs. Liger & Nogami ***3/4 12/07/91 Hashimoto & Norton vs. Muto & Hase ***1/4 12/21/91 Liger & Nogami vs. Casas & Katana *** 12/21/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Chono vs. Bigelow & Horner & Duk *** 12/28/91 Fujinami & Chono vs. Choshu & Nogami **** 12/28/91 Muto & Hase vs. Hashimoto & Norton (IWGP Tag) ***3/4 All ratings from WON. 1991 had 43 matches rated at *** and above. - 3 matches MOTYC (****1/2+) - 7 matches **** to ****1/4 - 14 matches ***1/2 to ***3/4 - 19 matches *** to ***1/4 Splits: ----------- Singles matches: 02/02/91 Vader vs. Fujinami (IWGP title change) ***3/4 04/20/91 Liger vs. Nogami ***1/2 04/20/91 Liger vs. Finlay ***1/4 04/27/91 Liger vs. Casas ***3/4 05/04/91 Liger vs. Owen Hart ****1/2 05/11/91 Honaga vs. Liger (IWGP Jr. title change) **** 06/01/91 Fujinami vs. Chono *** 08/10/91 Norton vs. Muto (G1) *** 08/10/91 Vader vs. Fujinami (G1) ***1/4 08/24/91 Chono vs. Hashimoto (G1) ***3/4 08/24/91 Chono vs. Muto (G1 Final) ****1/2 11/23/91 Fujinami vs. Chono (IWGP) ***1/4 ----------- Tag: 02/02/91 Saito & Chono vs. Choshu & Hase ***1/4 03/09/91 Choshu & Fujinami vs. Vader & Brown *** 03/09/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Strong Machine & Saito (IWGP Tag title change) ***1/4 03/16/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Koshinaka & Iizuka ****1/4 03/16/91 Vader & Machine vs. Fujinami & Choshu ***1/2 04/27/91 Fujinami & Koshinaka vs. Machine & H. Saito ***1/4 05/04/91 Steiners vs. Hase & Sasaki (Dome Match) ****1/2 05/11/91 Choshu & Fujinami vs. Hase Sasaki ***3/4 06/01/91 Steiners vs. Hase & Sasaki **** 06/22/91 Duk & Kuriso vs. H. Saito & Goto *** 06/22/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Machine & Pegasus Kid ***3/4 06/29/91 Machine & H. Saito vs. Hase & Sasaki ***3/4 07/13/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Muto & Chono ****1/4 07/20/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Muta & TNT **** 08/03/91 Vader & Bigelow vs. Muto & Chono ***1/2 09/21/91 Hashimoto & Hase vs. Duk & Kurisu ***1/4 11/23/91 R Steiner & Norton vs. Hase & Muto (IWGP Tag) ***1/2 12/07/91 Saito & Honaga vs. Liger & Nogami ***3/4 12/07/91 Hashimoto & Norton vs. Muto & Hase ***1/4 12/21/91 Liger & Nogami vs. Casas & Katana *** 12/28/91 Fujinami & Chono vs. Choshu & Nogami **** 12/28/91 Muto & Hase vs. Hashimoto & Norton (IWGP Tag) ***3/4 ----------- Six Man: 02/16/91 Liger & Koshinaka & Aoyagi vs. Machine & Goto & Honaga ***1/4 03/02/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Muto vs. Vader & St. Clair & Rheingans ***1/4 04/27/91 Norton & Samoans vs. Muto & Choshu & Chono *** 05/04/91 Muto & Choshu & Fujinami vs. Norton & Samoans **** 06/29/91 Liger & Koshinaka & Kobayashi vs. Pegasus & Goto & Honaga *** 09/21/91 Fujinami & Muto & Chono vs. Norton & Samoans ***1/2 12/21/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Chono vs. Bigelow & Horner & Duk *** ----------- Other: 07/27/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Chono & Hashimoto vs. Vader & Bigelow & TNT & Kokina & Samu ***1/2 09/07/91 Chono & Koshinaka & Hase & Sasaki vs. Hashimoto & Rookies ***1/4 ----------- By */Date **** 1/2 05/04/91 Liger vs. Owen Hart ****1/2 05/04/91 Steiners vs. Hase & Sasaki (Dome Match) ****1/2 08/24/91 Chono vs. Muto (G1 Final) ****1/2 **** 1/4 03/16/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Koshinaka & Iizuka ****1/4 07/13/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Muto & Chono ****1/4 **** 05/04/91 Muto & Choshu & Fujinami vs. Norton & Samoans **** 05/11/91 Honaga vs. Liger (IWGP Jr. title change) **** 06/01/91 Steiners vs. Hase & Sasaki **** 07/20/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Muta & TNT **** 12/28/91 Fujinami & Chono vs. Choshu & Nogami **** *** 3/4 02/02/91 Vader vs. Fujinami (IWGP title change) ***3/4 04/27/91 Liger vs. Casas ***3/4 05/11/91 Choshu & Fujinami vs. Hase Sasaki ***3/4 06/22/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Machine & Pegasus Kid ***3/4 06/29/91 Machine & H. Saito vs. Hase & Sasaki ***3/4 08/24/91 Chono vs. Hashimoto (G1) ***3/4 12/07/91 Saito & Honaga vs. Liger & Nogami ***3/4 12/28/91 Muto & Hase vs. Hashimoto & Norton (IWGP Tag) ***3/4 *** 1/2 03/16/91 Vader & Machine vs. Fujinami & Choshu ***1/2 04/20/91 Liger vs. Nogami ***1/2 07/27/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Chono & Hashimoto vs. Vader & Bigelow & TNT & Kokina & Samu ***1/2 08/03/91 Vader & Bigelow vs. Muto & Chono ***1/2 09/21/91 Fujinami & Muto & Chono vs. Norton & Samoans ***1/2 11/23/91 R Steiner & Norton vs. Hase & Muto (IWGP Tag) ***1/2 *** 1/4 02/02/91 Saito & Chono vs. Choshu & Hase ***1/4 02/16/91 Liger & Koshinaka & Aoyagi vs. Machine & Goto & Honaga ***1/4 03/02/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Muto vs. Vader & St. Clair & Rheingans ***1/4 03/09/91 Hase & Sasaki vs. Strong Machine & Saito (IWGP Tag title change) ***1/4 04/20/91 Liger vs. Finlay ***1/4 04/27/91 Fujinami & Koshinaka vs. Machine & H. Saito ***1/4 08/10/91 Vader vs. Fujinami (G1) ***1/4 09/07/91 Chono & Koshinaka & Hase & Sasaki vs. Hashimoto & Rookies ***1/4 09/21/91 Hashimoto & Hase vs. Duk & Kurisu ***1/4 11/23/91 Fujinami vs. Chono (IWGP) ***1/4 12/07/91 Hashimoto & Norton vs. Muto & Hase ***1/4 *** 03/09/91 Choshu & Fujinami vs. Vader & Brown *** 04/27/91 Norton & Samoans vs. Muto & Choshu & Chono *** 06/01/91 Fujinami vs. Chono *** 06/22/91 Duk & Kuriso vs. H. Saito & Goto *** 06/29/91 Liger & Koshinaka & Kobayashi vs. Pegasus & Goto & Honaga *** 08/10/91 Norton vs. Muto (G1) *** 12/21/91 Liger & Nogami vs. Casas & Katana *** 12/21/91 Choshu & Fujinami & Chono vs. Bigelow & Horner & Duk ***
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I'll try to get to them tonight.
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Old board, which is long gone. I've got them on the hard drive... though only could find the coded up version last night rather than the txt files I'm sure I created for NJPW. I should probably clean them up and simply post them on tOA. Chris and/or I did every 90s year for AJPW and NJPW. John
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NJPW 1998 Posted by cNJ March 06, 2000 17:36:17 U.S. CST 01/04/98 Otani vs. Dragon (Jr. Title) ****1/4 01/04/98 Chono vs. Koshinaka *** 01/04/98 Sasaki vs. Muto (World Title) ***1/2 01/12/98 Liger vs. Otani (Jr. Title) ****1/4 01/31/98 Liger & Nanjyo vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***1/2 01/31/98 Sasaki & Yamazaki & Hirata vs. Kojima & Nakanishi & Nishimura *** 02/05/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ****1/4 02/05/98 Koshinaka & Gotoh & Ohara vs. Tenzan & Muto & nWo Sting ***1/4 02/21/98 Chono & Muto vs. Kojima & Nakanishi (World Tag) *** 02/21/98 Liger vs. Kanemoto ****1/4 02/28/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani ***3/4 03/07/98 Koshinaka vs. Chono ***1/2 03/14/98 Kanemoto & Otani vs. Wagner & Liger **** 03/14/98 Koshinaka & Gotoh & Ohara vs. Nishimura & Nakanishi & Kojima ***3/4 03/21/98 Ka Shin vs. Liger *** 03/21/98 Fujinami & Yamazaki vs. Muto & Tenzan *** 04/11/98 Hashimoto & Kojima vs. Muto & Wallstreet ***1/4 04/25/98 Liger vs. Ka Shin (Jr. Title) *** 04/25/98 Chono & Muto vs. Nishimura & Hashimoto ***3/4 05/02/98 Liger & Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa & Otani **** 05/02/98 Saito & Tenzan vs. Sasaki & Nakanishi *** 05/02/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Kojima & Fujinami **** 05/09/98 Otani & Kanemoto & Takaiwa vs. Ka Shin & Liger & Samurai ****1/2 05/09/98 Fujinami & Nishimura vs. Hirata & Sasaki ***1/4 05/09/98 Tenzan & Chono & Saito vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu & Ohara ***3/4 05/16/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ***1/2 05/16/98 Tenzan vs. Nishimura ***1/2 05/16/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka & Ohara vs. Nakanishi & Sasaki & Kojima ***1/2 05/23/98 Shiryu vs. Felino (Super Jr. tourney) ***1/4 05/23/98 Takaiwa vs. Liger (Super Jr. tourney) ***1/2 05/30/98 Liger & Samurai & Wagner Jr. vs. Felino & Takaiwa & Shiryu ***1/4 05/30/98 Otani vs. Fukuda (Super Jr. tourney) ***3/4 05/30/98 Kanemoto vs. Ka Shin (Super Jr. tourney) ***3/4 06/13/98 Kojima & Nakanishi vs. Gotoh & Ohara (IWGP Tag tourney) ***1/4 06/13/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Nakanishi & Kojima (IWGP Tag tourney) ***1/2 06/20/98 Kanemoto vs. Wagner Jr. (Super Jr. final) ****3/4 06/27/98 Tenzan & Chono vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (IWGP Tag tourney final) ****1/2 07/04/98 Ka Shin & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 07/04/98 Wagner Jr. & Liger vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***1/2 07/11/98 Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Otani & Kanemoto **** 07/11/98 Liger vs. Wagner Jr. ***1/4 07/25/98 Liger & Samurai vs. Otani & Kanemoto ***1/2 08/01/98 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ****1/2 08/01/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Chono & Tenzan (Tag Titles) ***1/4 08/08/98 Chono vs. Nakanishi (G1) ***3/4 08/08/98 Tenryu vs. Muto (G1) **** 08/15/98 Kojima vs. Yasuda (G1) **** 08/15/98 Yamazaki vs. Sasaki (G1) ***1/2 08/15/98 Chono vs. Koshinaka (G1) ****1/4 08/15/98 Hashimoto vs. Tenryu (G1) ****3/4 08/22/98 Yamazaki vs. Chono (G1) ***1/4 08/22/98 Hashimoto vs. Kojima (G1) **** 08/22/98 Hashimoto vs. Yamazaki (G1 Final) ****1/4 08/29/98 Tenryu vs. Hashimoto (Japanese Heavyweight Title) *** 09/05/98 Kanemoto & Wagner Jr. vs. Ka Shin & Yasuraoka (Jr. Tag Title Tourney) **** 09/05/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Samurai & Liger (Jr. Tag Title Tourney) **** 09/05/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Wagner Jr. & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Title Tourney Final) ****1/2 09/12/98 Kojima & Nakanishi vs. Fujita & Nagata ***1/2 09/12/98 Sasuke vs. Liger ***1/2 09/19/98 Liger vs. Sasuke (Jr. Title) **** 09/26/98 Samurai & Liger vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***3/4 10/03/98 Frye & Johnston vs. Akitoshi Saito & Fujinami *** 10/03/98 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Ka Shin & Liger ***3/4 10/03/98 Nagata & Sasaki vs. Yamazaki & Hashimoto (Tag tourney final) ***1/4 10/10/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. B. Tiger & Jericho (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/2 10/17/98 Liger vs. Hayashi (Jr. Title) ***1/2 10/24/98 Otani & Kanemoto & Takaiwa vs. Samurai & Liger & Ka Shin ****1/4 10/24/98 Nagata & Yamazaki vs. Fujita & Nakanishi *** 10/31/98 Frye vs. Akitoshi Saito ***1/2 10/31/98 Sasuke vs. Kanemoto ***1/4 10/31/98 Ka Shin & Liger vs. Otani & Takaiwa **** 10/31/98 Nakanishi & Kojima vs. Iizuka & Nagata ***3/4 10/31/98 Koshinaka & Tenryu vs. Tenzan & Muto (World Tag) ****1/2 11/07/98 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Ka Shin & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Titles) ****1/2 11/07/98 Liger vs. Samurai (Jr. Title) ****1/4 11/07/98 Kojima & Muto vs. Nagata & Hashimoto ***3/4 11/14/98 Wagner Jr. & Liger & Samurai vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ****1/2 11/14/98 Nagata & Fujita vs. Johnston & Frye *** 11/21/98 Takaiwa vs. Kanemoto ***1/2 11/21/98 Liger vs. Otani ****1/4 11/21/98 Muto & Kojima & Adams vs. Ohara & Tenryu & Koshinaka ***1/2 11/28/98 Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani vs. Wagner Jr. & Liger & Ka Shin ***3/4 11/28/98 Hashimoto & Fujinami vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (Tag Tourney) ***1/4 12/05/98 Takaiwa & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 12/19/98 Liger vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ****1/4 12/19/98 Muto & Kojima vs. Yamazaki & Sasaki ***3/4 12/19/98 Fujinami & Hashimoto vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (Tag Tourney) *** 12/26/98 Muto & Kojima vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (Tag Tourney) **** 12/26/98 Kojima & Muto vs. Fujinami & Hashimoto (Tag Tourney Finals) ***3/4 All ratings from WON. 1998 had 89 matches rated at *** and above. - 9 matches MOTYC (****1/2+) - 22 matches **** to ****1/4 - 34 matches ***1/2 to ***3/4 - 24 matches *** to ***1/4 Splits: ----------- Singles matches: 01/04/98 Otani vs. Dragon (Jr. Title) ****1/4 01/04/98 Chono vs. Koshinaka *** 01/04/98 Sasaki vs. Muto (World Title) ***1/2 01/12/98 Liger vs. Otani (Jr. Title) ****1/4 02/21/98 Liger vs. Kanemoto ****1/4 03/07/98 Koshinaka vs. Chono ***1/2 03/21/98 Ka Shin vs. Liger *** 04/25/98 Liger vs. Ka Shin (Jr. Title) *** 05/16/98 Tenzan vs. Nishimura ***1/2 05/23/98 Shiryu vs. Felino (Super Jr. tourney) ***1/4 05/23/98 Takaiwa vs. Liger (Super Jr. tourney) ***1/2 05/30/98 Otani vs. Fukuda (Super Jr. tourney) ***3/4 05/30/98 Kanemoto vs. Ka Shin (Super Jr. tourney) ***3/4 06/20/98 Kanemoto vs. Wagner Jr. (Super Jr. final) ****3/4 07/11/98 Liger vs. Wagner Jr. ***1/4 08/01/98 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ****1/2 08/08/98 Chono vs. Nakanishi (G1) ***3/4 08/08/98 Tenryu vs. Muto (G1) **** 08/15/98 Kojima vs. Yasuda (G1) **** 08/15/98 Yamazaki vs. Sasaki (G1) ***1/2 08/15/98 Chono vs. Koshinaka (G1) ****1/4 08/15/98 Hashimoto vs. Tenryu (G1) ****3/4 08/22/98 Yamazaki vs. Chono (G1) ***1/4 08/22/98 Hashimoto vs. Kojima (G1) **** 08/22/98 Hashimoto vs. Yamazaki (G1 Final) ****1/4 08/29/98 Tenryu vs. Hashimoto (Japanese Heavyweight Title) *** 09/12/98 Sasuke vs. Liger ***1/2 09/19/98 Liger vs. Sasuke (Jr. Title) **** 10/17/98 Liger vs. Hayashi (Jr. Title) ***1/2 10/31/98 Frye vs. Akitoshi Saito ***1/2 10/31/98 Sasuke vs. Kanemoto ***1/4 11/07/98 Liger vs. Samurai (Jr. Title) ****1/4 11/21/98 Takaiwa vs. Kanemoto ***1/2 11/21/98 Liger vs. Otani ****1/4 12/19/98 Liger vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ****1/4 ----------- Tag: 01/31/98 Liger & Nanjyo vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***1/2 02/21/98 Chono & Muto vs. Kojima & Nakanishi (World Tag) *** 03/14/98 Kanemoto & Otani vs. Wagner & Liger **** 03/21/98 Fujinami & Yamazaki vs. Muto & Tenzan *** 04/11/98 Hashimoto & Kojima vs. Muto & Wallstreet ***1/4 04/25/98 Chono & Muto vs. Nishimura & Hashimoto ***3/4 05/02/98 Liger & Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa & Otani **** 05/02/98 Saito & Tenzan vs. Sasaki & Nakanishi *** 05/02/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Kojima & Fujinami **** 05/09/98 Fujinami & Nishimura vs. Hirata & Sasaki ***1/4 06/13/98 Kojima & Nakanishi vs. Gotoh & Ohara (IWGP Tag tourney) ***1/4 06/13/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Nakanishi & Kojima (IWGP Tag tourney) ***1/2 06/27/98 Tenzan & Chono vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (IWGP Tag tourney final) ****1/2 07/04/98 Ka Shin & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 07/04/98 Wagner Jr. & Liger vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***1/2 07/11/98 Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Otani & Kanemoto **** 07/25/98 Liger & Samurai vs. Otani & Kanemoto ***1/2 08/01/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Chono & Tenzan (Tag Titles) ***1/4 09/05/98 Kanemoto & Wagner Jr. vs. Ka Shin & Yasuraoka (Jr. Tag Title Tourney) **** 09/05/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Samurai & Liger (Jr. Tag Title Tourney) **** 09/05/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Wagner Jr. & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Title Tourney Final) ****1/2 09/12/98 Kojima & Nakanishi vs. Fujita & Nagata ***1/2 09/26/98 Samurai & Liger vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***3/4 10/03/98 Frye & Johnston vs. Akitoshi Saito & Fujinami *** 10/03/98 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Ka Shin & Liger ***3/4 10/03/98 Nagata & Sasaki vs. Yamazaki & Hashimoto (Tag tourney final) ***1/4 10/10/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. B. Tiger & Jericho (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/2 10/24/98 Nagata & Yamazaki vs. Fujita & Nakanishi *** 10/31/98 Ka Shin & Liger vs. Otani & Takaiwa **** 10/31/98 Nakanishi & Kojima vs. Iizuka & Nagata ***3/4 10/31/98 Koshinaka & Tenryu vs. Tenzan & Muto (World Tag) ****1/2 11/07/98 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Ka Shin & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Titles) ****1/2 11/07/98 Kojima & Muto vs. Nagata & Hashimoto ***3/4 11/14/98 Nagata & Fujita vs. Johnston & Frye *** 11/28/98 Hashimoto & Fujinami vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (Tag Tourney) ***1/4 12/05/98 Takaiwa & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 12/19/98 Muto & Kojima vs. Yamazaki & Sasaki ***3/4 12/19/98 Fujinami & Hashimoto vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (Tag Tourney) *** 12/26/98 Muto & Kojima vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (Tag Tourney) **** 12/26/98 Kojima & Muto vs. Fujinami & Hashimoto (Tag Tourney Finals) ***3/4 ----------- Six Man: 01/31/98 Sasaki & Yamazaki & Hirata vs. Kojima & Nakanishi & Nishimura *** 02/05/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ****1/4 02/05/98 Koshinaka & Gotoh & Ohara vs. Tenzan & Muto & nWo Sting ***1/4 02/28/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani ***3/4 03/14/98 Koshinaka & Gotoh & Ohara vs. Nishimura & Nakanishi & Kojima ***3/4 05/09/98 Otani & Kanemoto & Takaiwa vs. Ka Shin & Liger & Samurai ****1/2 05/09/98 Tenzan & Chono & Saito vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu & Ohara ***3/4 05/16/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ***1/2 05/16/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka & Ohara vs. Nakanishi & Sasaki & Kojima ***1/2 05/30/98 Liger & Samurai & Wagner Jr. vs. Felino & Takaiwa & Shiryu ***1/4 10/24/98 Otani & Kanemoto & Takaiwa vs. Samurai & Liger & Ka Shin ****1/4 11/14/98 Wagner Jr. & Liger & Samurai vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ****1/2 11/21/98 Muto & Kojima & Adams vs. Ohara & Tenryu & Koshinaka ***1/2 11/28/98 Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani vs. Wagner Jr. & Liger & Ka Shin ***3/4 ----------- By */Date **** 3/4 06/20/98 Kanemoto vs. Wagner Jr. (Super Jr. final) ****3/4 08/15/98 Hashimoto vs. Tenryu (G1) ****3/4 **** 1/2 05/09/98 Otani & Kanemoto & Takaiwa vs. Ka Shin & Liger & Samurai ****1/2 06/27/98 Tenzan & Chono vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (IWGP Tag tourney final) ****1/2 08/01/98 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ****1/2 09/05/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Wagner Jr. & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Title Tourney Final) ****1/2 10/31/98 Koshinaka & Tenryu vs. Tenzan & Muto (World Tag) ****1/2 11/07/98 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Ka Shin & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Titles) ****1/2 11/14/98 Wagner Jr. & Liger & Samurai vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ****1/2 **** 1/4 01/04/98 Otani vs. Dragon (Jr. Title) ****1/4 01/12/98 Liger vs. Otani (Jr. Title) ****1/4 02/05/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ****1/4 02/21/98 Liger vs. Kanemoto ****1/4 08/15/98 Chono vs. Koshinaka (G1) ****1/4 08/22/98 Hashimoto vs. Yamazaki (G1 Final) ****1/4 10/24/98 Otani & Kanemoto & Takaiwa vs. Samurai & Liger & Ka Shin ****1/4 11/07/98 Liger vs. Samurai (Jr. Title) ****1/4 11/21/98 Liger vs. Otani ****1/4 12/19/98 Liger vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ****1/4 **** 03/14/98 Kanemoto & Otani vs. Wagner & Liger **** 05/02/98 Liger & Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa & Otani **** 05/02/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Kojima & Fujinami **** 07/11/98 Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Otani & Kanemoto **** 08/08/98 Tenryu vs. Muto (G1) **** 08/15/98 Kojima vs. Yasuda (G1) **** 08/22/98 Hashimoto vs. Kojima (G1) **** 09/05/98 Kanemoto & Wagner Jr. vs. Ka Shin & Yasuraoka (Jr. Tag Title Tourney) **** 09/05/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Samurai & Liger (Jr. Tag Title Tourney) **** 09/19/98 Liger vs. Sasuke (Jr. Title) **** 10/31/98 Ka Shin & Liger vs. Otani & Takaiwa **** 12/26/98 Muto & Kojima vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (Tag Tourney) **** *** 3/4 02/28/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani ***3/4 03/14/98 Koshinaka & Gotoh & Ohara vs. Nishimura & Nakanishi & Kojima ***3/4 04/25/98 Chono & Muto vs. Nishimura & Hashimoto ***3/4 05/09/98 Tenzan & Chono & Saito vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu & Ohara ***3/4 05/30/98 Otani vs. Fukuda (Super Jr. tourney) ***3/4 05/30/98 Kanemoto vs. Ka Shin (Super Jr. tourney) ***3/4 08/08/98 Chono vs. Nakanishi (G1) ***3/4 09/26/98 Samurai & Liger vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***3/4 10/03/98 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Ka Shin & Liger ***3/4 10/31/98 Nakanishi & Kojima vs. Iizuka & Nagata ***3/4 11/07/98 Kojima & Muto vs. Nagata & Hashimoto ***3/4 11/28/98 Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani vs. Wagner Jr. & Liger & Ka Shin ***3/4 12/19/98 Muto & Kojima vs. Yamazaki & Sasaki ***3/4 12/26/98 Kojima & Muto vs. Fujinami & Hashimoto (Tag Tourney Finals) ***3/4 *** 1/2 01/04/98 Sasaki vs. Muto (World Title) ***1/2 01/31/98 Liger & Nanjyo vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***1/2 03/07/98 Koshinaka vs. Chono ***1/2 05/16/98 Liger & Samurai & Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa ***1/2 05/16/98 Tenzan vs. Nishimura ***1/2 05/16/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka & Ohara vs. Nakanishi & Sasaki & Kojima ***1/2 05/23/98 Takaiwa vs. Liger (Super Jr. tourney) ***1/2 06/13/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Nakanishi & Kojima (IWGP Tag tourney) ***1/2 07/04/98 Ka Shin & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 07/04/98 Wagner Jr. & Liger vs. Takaiwa & Otani ***1/2 07/25/98 Liger & Samurai vs. Otani & Kanemoto ***1/2 08/15/98 Yamazaki vs. Sasaki (G1) ***1/2 09/12/98 Kojima & Nakanishi vs. Fujita & Nagata ***1/2 09/12/98 Sasuke vs. Liger ***1/2 10/10/98 Otani & Takaiwa vs. B. Tiger & Jericho (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/2 10/17/98 Liger vs. Hayashi (Jr. Title) ***1/2 10/31/98 Frye vs. Akitoshi Saito ***1/2 11/21/98 Takaiwa vs. Kanemoto ***1/2 11/21/98 Muto & Kojima & Adams vs. Ohara & Tenryu & Koshinaka ***1/2 12/05/98 Takaiwa & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 *** 1/4 02/05/98 Koshinaka & Gotoh & Ohara vs. Tenzan & Muto & nWo Sting ***1/4 05/23/98 Shiryu vs. Felino (Super Jr. tourney) ***1/4 04/11/98 Hashimoto & Kojima vs. Muto & Wallstreet ***1/4 05/09/98 Fujinami & Nishimura vs. Hirata & Sasaki ***1/4 05/30/98 Liger & Samurai & Wagner Jr. vs. Felino & Takaiwa & Shiryu ***1/4 06/13/98 Kojima & Nakanishi vs. Gotoh & Ohara (IWGP Tag tourney) ***1/4 07/11/98 Liger vs. Wagner Jr. ***1/4 08/01/98 Tenryu & Koshinaka vs. Chono & Tenzan (Tag Titles) ***1/4 08/22/98 Yamazaki vs. Chono (G1) ***1/4 10/03/98 Nagata & Sasaki vs. Yamazaki & Hashimoto (Tag tourney final) ***1/4 10/31/98 Sasuke vs. Kanemoto ***1/4 11/28/98 Hashimoto & Fujinami vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (Tag Tourney) ***1/4 *** 01/04/98 Chono vs. Koshinaka *** 01/31/98 Sasaki & Yamazaki & Hirata vs. Kojima & Nakanishi & Nishimura *** 02/21/98 Chono & Muto vs. Kojima & Nakanishi (World Tag) *** 03/21/98 Ka Shin vs. Liger *** 03/21/98 Fujinami & Yamazaki vs. Muto & Tenzan *** 04/25/98 Liger vs. Ka Shin (Jr. Title) *** 05/02/98 Saito & Tenzan vs. Sasaki & Nakanishi *** 08/29/98 Tenryu vs. Hashimoto (Japanese Heavyweight Title) *** 10/03/98 Frye & Johnston vs. Akitoshi Saito & Fujinami *** 10/24/98 Nagata & Yamazaki vs. Fujita & Nakanishi *** 11/14/98 Nagata & Fujita vs. Johnston & Frye *** 12/19/98 Fujinami & Hashimoto vs. Koshinaka & Tenryu (Tag Tourney) ***
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NJPW 1999 Posted by cNJ March 06, 2000 17:37:26 U.S. CST 01/04/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Takaiwa (Jr. Tag Titles) *** (1) 01/04/99 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ***1/2 (1) 01/30/99 Otani vs. Liger ***3/4 01/30/99 Kojima vs. Yamazaki (#1 Contender Tourney) ***1/4 01/30/99 Sasaki vs. Nagata (#1 Contender Tourney) ***1/2 02/06/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Samurai & Liger (Jr. Tag Titles) ***3/4 02/06/99 Sasaki & Yamazaki vs. Muto & Saito *** 02/13/99 Wagner Jr. & Ka Shin vs. Liger & Hamada *** 02/13/99 Kojima & Tenzan vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (World Tag) ***1/2 02/20/99 Liger vs. Wagner Jr. (Jr. Title) ***1/4 02/27/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Takaiwa (Jr. Tag Titles) ***3/4 02/27/99 Sasaki vs. Kojima (#1 Contender Tourney Final) **** 03/06/99 Muto vs. Sasaki (World Title) ***3/4 03/13/99 Koshinaka & Sasaki vs. Kojima & Muto ***3/4 03/13/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Fujinami & Sasaki ***1/4 03/20/99 Kojima & Muto vs. Nagata & Yamazaki ***1/2 03/20/99 Kanemoto vs. Liger (Jr. Title) ****1/2 03/27/99 Nagata & Sasaki vs. Kojima & Muto ***1/4 03/27/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Samurai & Hamada (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/4 04/03/99 Sasaki & Koshinaka vs. Tenzan & Kojima (World Tag) ***1/2 04/10/99 Kanemoto vs. Otani (Jr. Title) ***3/4 04/10/99 Muto vs. Frye (World Title) *** 04/17/99 Liger & Sasuke vs. Wagner Jr. & Ka Shin (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/2 04/24/99 Tenzan & Kojima vs. Nagata & Nakanishi ***1/4 04/24/99 Takaiwa vs. Tanaka ***1/2 04/24/99 Yamazaki & Fujita vs. Ishikawa & Otsuka *** 05/01/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Kanemoto & Ka Shin ****1/4 05/01/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Tenryu & Fujinami ***3/4 05/01/99 Nagata & Fujinami & Yamazaki vs. Nakanishi & Koshinaka & Sasaki ***1/4 05/08/99 Frye & Chono & AKIRA vs. Kojima & Muto & Tenzan *** 05/08/99 Takaiwa & Kanemoto vs. Liger & Ka Shin *** 05/08/99 Sasaki & Koshinaka vs. Nagata & Yamazaki (World Tag) ***1/4 05/15/99 Kanemoto vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ***1/4 05/15/99 Muto vs. Tenryu (World Title) ****1/4 05/22/99 Otani vs. Wagner Jr. (Super Jr. Tourney) ***1/4 05/22/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Koshinaka & Nagata ***1/2 05/29/99 Otani vs. Orihara (Super Jr. Tourney) **** 05/29/99 Hamada vs. Liger (Super Jr. Tourney) ***1/4 05/29/99 Fujinami & Tenryu vs. Tenzan & Muto ***1/2 06/05/99 Ohara & Gotoh vs. Koshinaka & Yasuda ***1/4 06/05/99 Sasaki & Johnston vs. Nagata & Iizuka ***1/4 06/05/99 Chono & Frye & nWo Sting vs. Kojima & Muto & Tenzan ***3/4 06/05/99 Tanaka vs. Otani (Super Jr. Tourney) ****1/4 06/05/99 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Super Jr. Tourney) ****1/2 06/26/99 Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto (Super Jr. Final) ***1/4 07/03/99 Kojima & Muto vs. Chono & Frye ***3/4 07/03/99 Hashimoto & Nakanishi vs. Nagata & Fujinami ***1/4 07/03/99 Muto & Kojima vs. Wallstreet & Chono *** 07/03/99 Gotoh & Ohara vs. Koshinaka & Sasaki (World Tag) ***1/4 07/10/99 Kanemoto vs. Tanaka (Jr. Title) **** 07/10/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Liger & Wagner Jr. ***1/2 07/10/99 Hashimoto & Yasuda & Nagata & Meng vs. Tenzan & Muto & Kojima & Norton *** 07/24/99 Liger & Samurai vs. Wagner Jr. & Kanemoto ***1/2 07/31/99 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Liger & Sasuke (Jr. Tag Titles) ****1/2 08/07/99 Juniors Battle Royal (won by Ka Shin) *** 08/07/99 Gotoh & Ohara vs. Kimura & Koshinaka (World Tag) ***1/4 08/14/99 Hashimoto vs. Tenzan (G1) **** 08/14/99 Koshinaka vs. Chono (G1) ***1/2 08/14/99 Nagata vs. Kojima (G1) ****1/4 08/14/99 Fujinami vs. Muto (G1) ***3/4 08/14/99 Fujinami vs. Yasuda (G1) *** 08/14/99 Sasaki vs. Kojima (G1) ***1/2 08/14/99 Muto vs. Nagata (G1) **** 08/14/99 Chono vs. Hashimoto (G1) ***1/2 08/15/99 Tenzan vs. Chono (G1) ***1/4 08/15/99 Nakanishi vs. Muto (G1 Final) ***1/4 08/22/99 Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ***1/2 08/22/99 Nagata & Nakanishi vs. Ohara & Gotoh (World Tag) ***1/2 09/18/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Liger & Samurai (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/4 09/25/99 Norton & Muto vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (G1 Tag Tourney) ***1/4 10/02/99 Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ***1/4 10/09/99 Nagata & Nakanishi vs. Tenzan & Kojima (G1 Tag Tourney) ***1/2 10/09/99 Muto & Norton vs. Nakanishi & Nagata (G1 Tag Final) ***3/4 10/16/99 Ogawa vs. Hashimoto (NWA Title) ***1/2 10/16/99 Muto vs. Nakanishi (World Title) ***3/4 10/23/99 Tenryu vs. Sasaki ***1/4 10/23/99 Tenzan vs. Gotoh ***1/2 10/30/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Tanaka & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Titles) ****3/4 11/06/99 Malenko vs. Kanemoto ***1/2 11/06/99 Pegasus vs. Liger **** 11/06/99 Muto & Kojima vs. Koshinaka & Nagata **** 11/13/99 Yasuda & Tenryu vs. Nagata & Sasaki ***1/4 11/13/99 Liger & Pegasus vs. Takaiwa & Otani ****1/2 11/13/99 AKIRA & Wallstreet vs. Saito & Kojima *** 11/13/99 Chono & nWo Sting vs. Muto & Tenzan ***1/2 11/20/99 Otani & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 11/27/99 Kido & Liger vs. Kanemoto & Koshinaka ***1/4 11/27/99 Otani vs. Ka Shin *** 11/27/99 Kojima & Muto vs. AKIRA & Chono ***1/4 12/04/99 Samurai & Ka Shin & Tanaka vs. Otani & Kanemoto & Takaiwa ***1/4 12/11/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Kanemoto ***1/2 12/18/99 Tanaka & Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani ***1/2 12/25/99 Tenzan & Kojima vs. Chono & Frye ***1/4 12/25/99 Tenryu vs. Muto (World Title) ****1/2 All ratings from WON. 1999 had 94 matches rated at *** and above. - 6 matches MOTYC (****1/2+) - 11 matches **** to ****1/4 - 36 matches ***1/2 to ***3/4 - 41 matches *** to ***1/4 Splits: ----------- Singles matches: 01/04/99 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ***1/2 (1) 01/30/99 Otani vs. Liger ***3/4 01/30/99 Kojima vs. Yamazaki (#1 Contender Tourney) ***1/4 01/30/99 Sasaki vs. Nagata (#1 Contender Tourney) ***1/2 02/20/99 Liger vs. Wagner Jr. (Jr. Title) ***1/4 02/27/99 Sasaki vs. Kojima (#1 Contender Tourney Final) **** 03/06/99 Muto vs. Sasaki (World Title) ***3/4 03/20/99 Kanemoto vs. Liger (Jr. Title) ****1/2 04/10/99 Kanemoto vs. Otani (Jr. Title) ***3/4 04/10/99 Muto vs. Frye (World Title) *** 04/24/99 Takaiwa vs. Tanaka ***1/2 05/15/99 Kanemoto vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ***1/4 05/15/99 Muto vs. Tenryu (World Title) ****1/4 05/29/99 Otani vs. Orihara (Super Jr. Tourney) **** 05/29/99 Hamada vs. Liger (Super Jr. Tourney) ***1/4 06/05/99 Tanaka vs. Otani (Super Jr. Tourney) ****1/4 06/05/99 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Super Jr. Tourney) ****1/2 06/26/99 Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto (Super Jr. Final) ***1/4 07/10/99 Kanemoto vs. Tanaka (Jr. Title) **** 08/14/99 Hashimoto vs. Tenzan (G1) **** 08/14/99 Koshinaka vs. Chono (G1) ***1/2 08/14/99 Nagata vs. Kojima (G1) ****1/4 08/14/99 Fujinami vs. Muto (G1) ***3/4 08/14/99 Fujinami vs. Yasuda (G1) *** 08/14/99 Sasaki vs. Kojima (G1) ***1/2 08/14/99 Muto vs. Nagata (G1) **** 08/14/99 Chono vs. Hashimoto (G1) ***1/2 08/15/99 Tenzan vs. Chono (G1) ***1/4 08/15/99 Nakanishi vs. Muto (G1 Final) ***1/4 08/22/99 Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ***1/2 10/02/99 Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ***1/4 10/23/99 Tenryu vs. Sasaki ***1/4 10/23/99 Tenzan vs. Gotoh ***1/2 11/06/99 Malenko vs. Kanemoto ***1/2 11/06/99 Pegasus vs. Liger **** 11/27/99 Otani vs. Ka Shin *** 12/25/99 Tenryu vs. Muto (World Title) ****1/2 ----------- Tag: 01/04/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Takaiwa (Jr. Tag Titles) *** (1) 02/06/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Samurai & Liger (Jr. Tag Titles) ***3/4 02/06/99 Sasaki & Yamazaki vs. Muto & Saito *** 02/13/99 Wagner Jr. & Ka Shin vs. Liger & Hamada *** 02/13/99 Kojima & Tenzan vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (World Tag) ***1/2 02/27/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Takaiwa (Jr. Tag Titles) ***3/4 03/13/99 Koshinaka & Sasaki vs. Kojima & Muto ***3/4 03/20/99 Kojima & Muto vs. Nagata & Yamazaki ***1/2 03/27/99 Nagata & Sasaki vs. Kojima & Muto ***1/4 03/27/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Samurai & Hamada (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/4 04/03/99 Sasaki & Koshinaka vs. Tenzan & Kojima (World Tag) ***1/2 04/17/99 Liger & Sasuke vs. Wagner Jr. & Ka Shin (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/2 04/24/99 Tenzan & Kojima vs. Nagata & Nakanishi ***1/4 04/24/99 Yamazaki & Fujita vs. Ishikawa & Otsuka *** 05/01/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Kanemoto & Ka Shin ****1/4 05/08/99 Takaiwa & Kanemoto vs. Liger & Ka Shin *** 05/08/99 Sasaki & Koshinaka vs. Nagata & Yamazaki (World Tag) ***1/4 05/22/99 Otani vs. Wagner Jr. (Super Jr. Tourney) ***1/4 05/29/99 Fujinami & Tenryu vs. Tenzan & Muto ***1/2 06/05/99 Ohara & Gotoh vs. Koshinaka & Yasuda ***1/4 06/05/99 Sasaki & Johnston vs. Nagata & Iizuka ***1/4 07/03/99 Kojima & Muto vs. Chono & Frye ***3/4 07/03/99 Hashimoto & Nakanishi vs. Nagata & Fujinami ***1/4 07/03/99 Muto & Kojima vs. Wallstreet & Chono *** 07/03/99 Gotoh & Ohara vs. Koshinaka & Sasaki (World Tag) ***1/4 07/10/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Liger & Wagner Jr. ***1/2 07/24/99 Liger & Samurai vs. Wagner Jr. & Kanemoto ***1/2 07/31/99 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Liger & Sasuke (Jr. Tag Titles) ****1/2 08/07/99 Gotoh & Ohara vs. Kimura & Koshinaka (World Tag) ***1/4 08/22/99 Nagata & Nakanishi vs. Ohara & Gotoh (World Tag) ***1/2 09/18/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Liger & Samurai (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/4 09/25/99 Norton & Muto vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (G1 Tag Tourney) ***1/4 10/09/99 Nagata & Nakanishi vs. Tenzan & Kojima (G1 Tag Tourney) ***1/2 10/09/99 Muto & Norton vs. Nakanishi & Nagata (G1 Tag Final) ***3/4 10/30/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Tanaka & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Titles) ****3/4 11/06/99 Muto & Kojima vs. Koshinaka & Nagata **** 11/13/99 Yasuda & Tenryu vs. Nagata & Sasaki ***1/4 11/13/99 Liger & Pegasus vs. Takaiwa & Otani ****1/2 11/13/99 AKIRA & Wallstreet vs. Saito & Kojima *** 11/13/99 Chono & nWo Sting vs. Muto & Tenzan ***1/2 11/20/99 Otani & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 11/27/99 Kido & Liger vs. Kanemoto & Koshinaka ***1/4 11/27/99 Kojima & Muto vs. AKIRA & Chono ***1/4 12/11/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Kanemoto ***1/2 12/25/99 Tenzan & Kojima vs. Chono & Frye ***1/4 ----------- Six Man: 03/13/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Fujinami & Sasaki ***1/4 05/01/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Tenryu & Fujinami ***3/4 05/01/99 Nagata & Fujinami & Yamazaki vs. Nakanishi & Koshinaka & Sasaki ***1/4 05/08/99 Frye & Chono & AKIRA vs. Kojima & Muto & Tenzan *** 05/22/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Koshinaka & Nagata ***1/2 06/05/99 Chono & Frye & nWo Sting vs. Kojima & Muto & Tenzan ***3/4 12/18/99 Tanaka & Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani ***1/2 ----------- Other: 07/10/99 Hashimoto & Yasuda & Nagata & Meng vs. Tenzan & Muto & Kojima & Norton *** 08/07/99 Juniors Battle Royal (won by Ka Shin) *** ----------- By */Date **** 3/4 10/30/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Tanaka & Kanemoto (Jr. Tag Titles) ****3/4 **** 1/2 03/20/99 Kanemoto vs. Liger (Jr. Title) ****1/2 06/05/99 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Super Jr. Tourney) ****1/2 07/31/99 Takaiwa & Otani vs. Liger & Sasuke (Jr. Tag Titles) ****1/2 11/13/99 Liger & Pegasus vs. Takaiwa & Otani ****1/2 12/25/99 Tenryu vs. Muto (World Title) ****1/2 **** 1/4 05/01/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Kanemoto & Ka Shin ****1/4 05/15/99 Muto vs. Tenryu (World Title) ****1/4 06/05/99 Tanaka vs. Otani (Super Jr. Tourney) ****1/4 08/14/99 Nagata vs. Kojima (G1) ****1/4 **** 02/27/99 Sasaki vs. Kojima (#1 Contender Tourney Final) **** 05/29/99 Otani vs. Orihara (Super Jr. Tourney) **** 07/10/99 Kanemoto vs. Tanaka (Jr. Title) **** 08/14/99 Hashimoto vs. Tenzan (G1) **** 08/14/99 Muto vs. Nagata (G1) **** 11/06/99 Pegasus vs. Liger **** 11/06/99 Muto & Kojima vs. Koshinaka & Nagata **** *** 3/4 01/30/99 Otani vs. Liger ***3/4 02/06/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Samurai & Liger (Jr. Tag Titles) ***3/4 02/27/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Takaiwa (Jr. Tag Titles) ***3/4 03/06/99 Muto vs. Sasaki (World Title) ***3/4 03/13/99 Koshinaka & Sasaki vs. Kojima & Muto ***3/4 04/10/99 Kanemoto vs. Otani (Jr. Title) ***3/4 05/01/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Tenryu & Fujinami ***3/4 06/05/99 Chono & Frye & nWo Sting vs. Kojima & Muto & Tenzan ***3/4 07/03/99 Kojima & Muto vs. Chono & Frye ***3/4 08/14/99 Fujinami vs. Muto (G1) ***3/4 10/09/99 Muto & Norton vs. Nakanishi & Nagata (G1 Tag Final) ***3/4 10/16/99 Muto vs. Nakanishi (World Title) ***3/4 *** 1/2 01/04/99 Liger vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ***1/2 (1) 01/30/99 Sasaki vs. Nagata (#1 Contender Tourney) ***1/2 02/13/99 Kojima & Tenzan vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (World Tag) ***1/2 03/20/99 Kojima & Muto vs. Nagata & Yamazaki ***1/2 04/03/99 Sasaki & Koshinaka vs. Tenzan & Kojima (World Tag) ***1/2 04/17/99 Liger & Sasuke vs. Wagner Jr. & Ka Shin (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/2 04/24/99 Takaiwa vs. Tanaka ***1/2 05/22/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Koshinaka & Nagata ***1/2 05/29/99 Fujinami & Tenryu vs. Tenzan & Muto ***1/2 07/10/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Liger & Wagner Jr. ***1/2 07/24/99 Liger & Samurai vs. Wagner Jr. & Kanemoto ***1/2 08/14/99 Koshinaka vs. Chono (G1) ***1/2 08/14/99 Sasaki vs. Kojima (G1) ***1/2 08/14/99 Chono vs. Hashimoto (G1) ***1/2 08/22/99 Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto (Jr. Title) ***1/2 08/22/99 Nagata & Nakanishi vs. Ohara & Gotoh (World Tag) ***1/2 10/09/99 Nagata & Nakanishi vs. Tenzan & Kojima (G1 Tag Tourney) ***1/2 10/16/99 Ogawa vs. Hashimoto (NWA Title) ***1/2 10/23/99 Tenzan vs. Gotoh ***1/2 11/06/99 Malenko vs. Kanemoto ***1/2 11/13/99 Chono & nWo Sting vs. Muto & Tenzan ***1/2 11/20/99 Otani & Kanemoto vs. Samurai & Liger ***1/2 12/11/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Kanemoto ***1/2 12/18/99 Tanaka & Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Takaiwa & Kanemoto & Otani ***1/2 *** 1/4 01/30/99 Kojima vs. Yamazaki (#1 Contender Tourney) ***1/4 02/20/99 Liger vs. Wagner Jr. (Jr. Title) ***1/4 03/13/99 Kojima & Muto & Tenzan vs. Yasuda & Fujinami & Sasaki ***1/4 03/27/99 Nagata & Sasaki vs. Kojima & Muto ***1/4 03/27/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Samurai & Hamada (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/4 04/24/99 Tenzan & Kojima vs. Nagata & Nakanishi ***1/4 05/01/99 Nagata & Fujinami & Yamazaki vs. Nakanishi & Koshinaka & Sasaki ***1/4 05/08/99 Sasaki & Koshinaka vs. Nagata & Yamazaki (World Tag) ***1/4 05/15/99 Kanemoto vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ***1/4 05/22/99 Otani vs. Wagner Jr. (Super Jr. Tourney) ***1/4 05/29/99 Hamada vs. Liger (Super Jr. Tourney) ***1/4 06/05/99 Ohara & Gotoh vs. Koshinaka & Yasuda ***1/4 06/05/99 Sasaki & Johnston vs. Nagata & Iizuka ***1/4 06/26/99 Ka Shin vs. Kanemoto (Super Jr. Final) ***1/4 07/03/99 Hashimoto & Nakanishi vs. Nagata & Fujinami ***1/4 07/03/99 Gotoh & Ohara vs. Koshinaka & Sasaki (World Tag) ***1/4 08/07/99 Gotoh & Ohara vs. Kimura & Koshinaka (World Tag) ***1/4 08/15/99 Tenzan vs. Chono (G1) ***1/4 08/15/99 Nakanishi vs. Muto (G1 Final) ***1/4 09/18/99 Otani & Takaiwa vs. Liger & Samurai (Jr. Tag Titles) ***1/4 09/25/99 Norton & Muto vs. Nagata & Nakanishi (G1 Tag Tourney) ***1/4 10/02/99 Ka Shin vs. Takaiwa (Jr. Title) ***1/4 10/23/99 Tenryu vs. Sasaki ***1/4 11/13/99 Yasuda & Tenryu vs. Nagata & Sasaki ***1/4 11/27/99 Kido & Liger vs. Kanemoto & Koshinaka ***1/4 11/27/99 Kojima & Muto vs. AKIRA & Chono ***1/4 12/04/99 Samurai & Ka Shin & Tanaka vs. Otani & Kanemoto & Takaiwa ***1/4 12/25/99 Tenzan & Kojima vs. Chono & Frye ***1/4 *** 01/04/99 Ka Shin & Wagner Jr. vs. Otani & Takaiwa (Jr. Tag Titles) *** (1) 02/06/99 Sasaki & Yamazaki vs. Muto & Saito *** 02/13/99 Wagner Jr. & Ka Shin vs. Liger & Hamada *** 04/10/99 Muto vs. Frye (World Title) *** 04/24/99 Yamazaki & Fujita vs. Ishikawa & Otsuka *** 05/08/99 Frye & Chono & AKIRA vs. Kojima & Muto & Tenzan *** 05/08/99 Takaiwa & Kanemoto vs. Liger & Ka Shin *** 07/03/99 Muto & Kojima vs. Wallstreet & Chono *** 07/10/99 Hashimoto & Yasuda & Nagata & Meng vs. Tenzan & Muto & Kojima & Norton *** 08/07/99 Juniors Battle Royal (won by Ka Shin) *** 08/14/99 Fujinami vs. Yasuda (G1) *** 11/13/99 AKIRA & Wallstreet vs. Saito & Kojima *** 11/27/99 Otani vs. Ka Shin *** Notes: (1) Both matches were replayed on the 01/16/99 NJPW TV show in lengthier versions and Dave rated both of them at the ***3/4 level
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Dan: might just want to set it aside for a Misc Set. There probably a few other shows from earlier sets that are missing and can be compiled into a short set. I haven't exhaustively looked at 1991-96 yet, but two shows from 1990 can be added: 05/27/90 (taped 5/17) and 10/21/90 (taped 10/10). Pretty sure that I have the K-Tapes of these. There was a local TV show that had the first Misawa & Kobashi vs Williams & Ace title match in 7/94 that was massively edited on AJPW 30. I also recall another oddball 1995 TV special / local TV that had the full Kawada-Kobashi Carny draw along with Hansen-Akiyama. I think there are a few things like that. Might end up being a short 5-6 disc set, but pulling them all together in one place might make it clean & easy for folks with all the sets to fill in the blanks with one set. The Mega 1998 Set sounds like fun. John
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Okay... so starting in 1998 (which would cover the 1997 RWTL on forward), AJPW had current coverage via: * NTV (AJPW 30) * NTV satellite * Sam TV Along with the comms. So Satellite ran through the Split, while Sammy continued running past the Split. AJPW 30 cut out right before the Split. Matches could appear on any one of the three, at times on 2 of them, along with comms. And I thought my spreadsheet was confusing in the 80s with all the Classics and the original NTV. John
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What Would It Take To Form a True No. 2 Company To Rival WWE
jdw replied to Bob Morris's topic in Pro Wrestling
I'll add one more to the things that have been mentioned: Avoid Con Men and Being Conned The business is full of people who just want to suck on the tit. A lot of things doomed TNA, but that's high on the list: people want to suck money out of it. WCW had a strong streak of it as well. Kip Frey was a nice guy, but were Dusty and others taking advantage? We've seen promotion after promotion where the booker gets the Boss/Money Mark on TV / on the Shows to make him feel important... which in turn makes him easier to suck money out of. You could drop the best booker in the world into TNA, but if Jeffy or or Kurt or Hogan has Dixie's ear, you're fucked. It's a fine line between (i) keeping everyone driven and hunger while properly rewards, and (ii) lazy fucks sucking money out of you doing dick. You could set up everything else, but if underneath it you're being conned by your Business Guy and/or your Booker and/or Top Stars.... you're going to end up losing. In turn, if you are the Business Guy or Booker, but your Money Mark turns out to be a gullible mark, you run the massive risk of a Hogan or Triple H cutting you the hell out by getting close to the Money Mark, taking credit or stabbing you in the back. -
Awesome story. And yeah... the workers don't make it easy on the refs. The majority of my yelling at Sinclair is a pass through: the wrestlers are being fucking idiots and Sinclair has to sit there like a bump in the log, so someone needs to get yelled at. John
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The ROH matches that I've been to, I've lost my voice yelling at Sinclair for what a fuck up he is. Part of it is that style: wrestlers do shit right infront of the ref that they ref "isn't suppose to see" or is forced to ignore. It makes him look like an idiot. But my yelling at Sinclair for fucking up was so regular in the first two shows I went to that the last time: (i) I made a point to save my voice by not yelling at him (ii) my GF tossed out to Pat McNeill an off hand, "John hates Sinclair" I do agree on some level that he works his ass off. And like I say, half of what he "screws up" on is because of wrestlers these days being so lost in their own masturbatory bubble that they don't give a shit that there's a ref. John
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Dave confirms it was a sellout, and confirms that if they could fit 93K in the building they would have had 93K in the building. There are other threads here and around the net that make it really clear that the building held 78K... before you even put a *single* person on the Football Field: XVI - Pontiac - 81,270 So... uh... does Dave know that he's contradicting himself? I think we even pointed to WON's *before* the event where Dave was talking about the number of tickets sold in advance. John
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Don't need to type up a list of everything. Just anything that doesn't look like it's on the 1997 Sets. If you don't have access to CM, I can C&P Dan's set lists into a PM.
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What other non-commercial release things from 1997 do you have that aren't on the list? I'm trying to track down all the pre-Split stuff. I have the 1997 sets, so I'd want to be able to zero in on any additional shows I need to get from Dan. John
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One other to keep an eye on: RWTL 97 Misawa Akiyama vs Hayabusa Shinzaki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcQ6SMf95Bk This appears to be from the 18 hour Misawa special on G+ channel back in 2008: http://www.crazymax.org/index.php?showtopic=14498 This appears to be on: New Misawa box set coming in June [2009] http://www.crazymax.org/index.php?showtopic=37516 Dan should have both. The AJ 30 version was JIP, and the version on Dan's Sammy/Sat set was also cut down quite a bit: DVD #23 AJ on NTV January 98 (t. 11-12/97) 97 RWTL 12/5 Kawada/Taue vs. Ace/Kobashi (t. 11/27) 5:36 of 30:00 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Shinzaki/Hayabusa (t. 11/27) 6:30 of 12:34 So you might want to check the one you have, Loss & Will. It's a 21:34 match as Dan just transposed the first two numbers. If you've got either the AJ 30 or NTV Sat versions, you'll want to get the complete versions from Dan. John
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That's strange. He just released his set, which is here: http://www.crazymax.org/index.php?showtopic=53387 Only appears here: DVD #13 AJ TV 12/7/97 '97 Real World Tag Team League Final taped 12/5 Tokyo Nippon Budokan Hall Taue & Kawada vs Misawa & Akiyama. ****3/4 All Japan on Nippon Tv 12/14/97 (taped 12/5 Tokyo) Shoehi Baba/Rusher Kimura/Mitsuo Momoto vs Masa Fuchi/Haruka Eigen/T.Kikuchi Johnny Smith/Wolf/Kimala II vs Kenta Kobashi/Johnny Ace/Maunakea Mossman AJ Pro Wrestling 30 12/21/97 '97 Real World Tag Team League taped 12/5 Tokyo Nippon Budokan &11/23 Sendai Miyagi-ken Sports Center Williams & Albright & Windham vs Hansen & Duncum Jr. & Omori (12/5). Highlights. League Bout: Williams & Albright vs Windham & Bradshaw (11/23). Highlights. League Bout: Taue & Kawada vs Hayabusa & Shinzaki (11/23). ****1/2 Which given the time slot and the other matches on the show meant it was JIP. Here's the AJ 30 version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LepzQjv93e4 And here would be the full version, in pretty good shape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSZMaRJsmvE So am I overlooking it on the 1997 Sets? John
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Ditch: what's the logo on it? Sammy? The one used on NTV Select? I'll go back to Will and Loss: Where are you sourcing this match from? It wasn't on Dan's recent 1997 Set. So if it's complete (which Ditch confirms), you guys seem to have a show that Dan doesn't... and potentially other things from 1997 that aren't out there. I took a quick look to see if it aired in one of the specials in current run of classics on G+ or the NTV's Select... and don't see it. John
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One of the Misawa-Williams TC matches should make it, and more than just the finish. Either 3/1 or 10/11. This is a series of matches going back to 1993 that tracked Doc's growth. They don't have a TC rematch after the Title Change until 3/1/97, and their 1996 Carny match doesn't exist. Really need to have one of them on. I'd say 3/1. Gets it right out of the way early in 1997 that Doc isn't in his prime anymore. It's also Misawa's first defense, and gives a baseline to comp with the "run the table" post-Carny defenses against Kawada, Taue, Jun and Kobashi. The 1/17/97 Kawada & Taue vs Williams & Ace title change was surprisingly mediocre at the time, and probably the first sign that all was not right in the Doc & Ace team, after their 1996 reunion campaign saw them working pretty well at the level of the native teams. One worries about JIP'ing the match as it might make it look better than it is... but maybe find a spot in the last 4-5 minutes to join it and show the title change. From a Yearbook standpoint, it does explain this question: "Wait... when we last left the World Tag Title in the 1996 Yearbook, Doc & Ace lifted it from Misawa & Akiyama and then retained against Kobashi & Patriot. Why are Kawada & Taue defending against Albright & Takayama on the March Budokan?" John
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Austin made Rock, even while "winning" the feud. Austin & Rock made Foley. Vince, Rock & Foley made Trip. Flair made Sting. Flair long before that made Steamboat in Mid Atlantic. The number of wrestlers that Baba to a degree "made" in Japan is long. Rikidozan made Destroyer. Inoki and Baba together made Hansen. Baba jobbed to Brody in one of their first tags, if not the first one. Suspect there are a hundred examples people could come up without thinking too hard on it. I mean... Jumbo-Tenryu and Jumbo-Misawa and Choshu-Hash... Liger was the ace of his division and *alone* probably made 10 different wrestlers. John