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Just because Mutoh wrestled as Super Ninja in Florida back in 1986 or so, Scooter thinks every Super Ninja is Mutoh despite it being a pretty common Generic Japanese Wrestler name of the time. Honestly, I think missing out on the Rockers was just as big a blunder for the AWA as losing Hogan. At least Verne seemed to realize Hogan might be something, nothing showed how out of touch he was as the famous story of them trying to explain their team name and Verne thinking they meant "rockers" as in "rocking chairs".

So would that mean HHH overruled Steph on something? That would be a first....

I thought the APA was just a one shot deal since JBL was with the RAW group going to Iraq after the show. Plus also I saw it as part of the Carlito farewell tour, since he's now been beaten by a midget and two guys who've been retired for years.

How exactly was he backed into a corner? Well he really wasn't, but in Vince's mind he was. I don't know if WCW was really in his head that much, or if it's more WWE revisionist history, but he seemed convinced at the time that Bret going was the key of some fiendish plot to bring the WWF to its knees. Has it ever really come out why Vince went from being OK with Bret dropping the belt at the December 97 PPV to "OMG LOSE NOW"? Was it all HHH/HBK convincing him?

Seriously, Bret shouldn't have been surprised that Vince ended up doing what he did when backed into a corner. I mean, anyone here has a sense of how crazy he is, surely a 12 or so year employee would have known.

Maybe he had a legit reason for having it. He sure seems like a woman with all his crying and drama. "I HAD A STAPH INFECTION AND I ALMOST DIIIIIIIIEEEEED." Oh lord. To be fair, staph infections ain't nothing to fuck with. That is true, but I'm fairly certain they don't prescribe estrogen inhibitors for staph infections. Also, there's no reason they should keep letting him talk when they seem to send babysitters with everyone else who gives an interview.

So I guess that means there will be 3 pages of American Gladiators coverage in the WON now?

I guess all the discussion of the clique for the HBK DVD made HHH yearn for the days where he was a prick to everyone. What kind of example must this set for the young wrestlers? The guy who's probably going to be the boss one day is trying to goad someone the company is pushing as a top guy into a fight, like he was some message board troll.

One thing that really helps Jericho is that with everyone off the gas now, he doesn't look all that different size wise than anyone else. In fact, he seems to have one of the better physiques since it seems half the roster seems to have assumed the Wellness Policy bans going to the gym as well. I mean, not to come off as a muscle queen but I haven't seen this many dudes with potbellies on TV since Jake Milliman retired.

I don't think WWE ever had tape traders in mind for any set they've ever made. If they did, they would make far more use of the vast libraries they own and not have so many repeat matches across their DVD releases. The only other time I can recall them releasing a multi disc set and having a disc full of just promos is the Roddy Piper set. In that case it made sense since 90% of what Piper's famous for happened in a Piper's Pit segment.

I guess it's because of Cena's injury, but this has surprisingly flown way under the radar considering the guy was WWE champion for the better part of the last 2 years or so. The way they arraigned this set is kind of weird: Disc 1 is the standard documentary stuff, with the extras being a look at all the various cars Cena owns. Disc 2 is the matches, which for a 3 DVD set is kind of odd that this is the only disc that has any. Disc 3 is entirely (unless I missed some easter eggs) "5 Questions With the Champ" segments from WWE.com. That's right, they devoted an entire disc on a DVD release of the company's biggest star to a throwaway joke segment on the company's website. Now they are pretty funny, and show a side of Cena you don't get to see by watching him do his best with horribly written material on RAW, but it's the biggest "WTF?" I've seen on a WWE DVD release. Having said that, the segments kind of remind you of watching Bob Saget's stand-up routine as Cena seems to channel equal parts George Carlin and Vanilla Ice during those bits. He'll go on a Aristocrats-level rant then end it all "NAHMEAN???" The documentary part is actually pretty good, and it makes it hard to hate Cena after watching it. He comes off as a genuine dude, which I'm sure is exactly the intended effect, but still it was good stuff.

I think part of the reason Kennedy got so much love (and still does to some extent) is that he was far and away the best thing in OVW when he was there. However time has shown that was more a reflection on how shitty the rest of the OVW roster was at that time. When Kennedy was on the main roster surrounded by people who could hold their end of the bargain, he was exposed as merely decent-to-good instead of OMG AWSUM~!

The new NWA episode has maybe the best jobber name ever: Benny "U-Haul" Trayler.

I got this the other day, and all I have to say is I hope no one ever lets Bret Hart see the documentary or else he'll have another stroke. HHH relays the tale of him, HBK, and Vince sitting around figuring out what they're going to do in Montreal and Hunter says to Vince "fuck him, if he won't do business then make him do business". Then the rest of the Montreal discussion is about how Bret needs to stop being a baby and forgive Shawn already. I mean, I generally don't take Bret's side in the Great Montreal Debate and even I was thinking "damn, way to pile on a brotha". Despite that, there's some pretty good stuff. Finding out Kevin Nash played peacemaker to get HBK and HHH talking again after falling out for a year (over HBK showing up to work loaded) was unexpectedly fun to hear about. They kind of come clean about the clique too, the "we didn't really have power, we just gave honest opinions" line was used, but pretty much everyone else chimed in how they grew tired of their bullshit after a while. The stuff with Marty was a little sad since he comes off as a guy who realizes he had a chance to be bigger than he was and fucked it all up.

I think the "Me want title shot" stuff was funny since the implication was that he had to talk to Orton like he was 4 years old. It's funny that in the WON Dave was all shocked at how young Jericho looked at age 37 which at that point made me realize that he's pretty much the Randy Marsh of WWE. For those of you not South Park fans, he's the father of one of the main characters that's always trying too hard to make the kids like him but they always think he's lame because he's a dad and dads are inherently not cool. Jericho reminds me of someone trying way too hard to be cool.

So watching the Shire footage that was posted on DVDR, I'm wondering why WWE never made a bid for whatever San Francisco footage is left. There seems to be enough to make it worthwhile, and you'd think that Pat Patterson would have tried to lobby for it. It seems to meet the "WWF guys before they were stars" threshold, and you'd figure it would get used at least as much as the AWA stuff they haven't used outside of the DVD set.

Kinda like Jesse during the boxing match saying Mr. T getting whipped could be Roots 2.

I wouldn't be surprised if TUF won, it gets covered in the WON in far greater detail than any wrestling show every week.

Was that Syxx promo the one that prompted that classic moment where Flair told him he had more championships than he (Syxx) had pieces of ass?

So the new group for the latest Legends Roundtable is Jim Ross, Pat Patterson, Michael Hayes, Mick Foley..........and Tazz. Even he seems a little surprised to be there. The topic of the show is "Bad Asses" and the high point has to be JR flipping out when someone (Hayes I think) mentioned Adrian Street was someone who you wouldn't think was a bad ass because of his gimmick but really was. Ross seemed to think that the implication was that someone gay couldn't be a bad ass, but also making clear that Adrian was just working a gimmick and was married to Miss Linda. The rest of the roundtable were just like "ok, no one's really saying what you think they said".

I guess I'm too cynical, but when they announced Flair returning next week in Charlotte, my first thought was "I guess they need a new 'emotional return' scene for the video montages since Benoit is in the background in the WCW one".

Other than needing to grow his hair out, I don't think it was all that bad. Hell, it's better than the embarrassing bob HBK was rocking when he first came back. Besides, it's not like he was ever a fashion plate. I don't think his current look is any better or worse than the Gene Simmons topknot-iridescent shirt combo from WCW.

From WWE.com: Guess the rumors of Carlito putting in his notice are correct. I wonder what happened to get him so deep in the doghouse.

Pretty much any time Mick Foley ever discussed his title win being spoiled (including on the Legends show on 24/7), he would say he didn't blame Tony because he was just doing what he was told to do by Bischoff.

Well none of those other announcers were former wrestlers, so it would have sounded strange for them to say they were tougher than anyone. The only thing negative I can think of was that they didn't really mention a lot about Gorilla's past, so a lot of the newer fans at the time had no idea he used to wrestle. I know I didn't realize that for a long time after I started watching WWF TV. Even then, it never really sank in until that one Halloween episode of Prime Time when Gorilla walks in as the payoff to the gag about the gorilla mask where I realized how much he towered over the set. Plus you'd think it would be obvious that a lot of the "you can only see action this great in the WWF" stuff was coming directly from Vince. I mean, Tony gets a pass for all the bash-the-competition nonsense he said on Nitro because Bischoff told him to (like spoiling Foley's title win) yet Gorilla gets hammered for parroting lines clearly coming from the boss?