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Not to mention the stigma of smaller guys in wrestling is part of the reason a lot of guys died with enlarged hearts but Kevin Nash will probably live a long life with minimal side effects of being a wrestler other than probably needing knee replacement surgeries.

I mentioned this to Loss during an IM discussion earlier, but reading the updates to this thread really made something stand out. The latest Legends show updated on WWE 24/7, and it's all about "heatseekers" aka "people we don't like in the business". One thing that really stands out is how much the panel hated guys like Lex Luger or Bill Goldberg (who they went out of their way to praise for his non-wrestling enterprises), and the main reason is because they came from outside the wrestling business. They were both ex football guys and didn't grow up as fans, which is a bad thing since you're not as susceptible to falling into the trap of believing your character to the point where it totally takes over your life if you didn't grow up idolizing the business. In light of current events it really sheds light on the mindset of the business. The guys on the panel were getting visibly mad because guys like Luger and Goldberg weren't as devoted to wrestling as they were and they took it as an insult. You would think with those guys (especially Luger) it would be like shooting fish in a barrel when it came to things not to like about them, but the consensus was "they didn't appreciate the business". It reminded me of when I worked in retail while going to college and I'd run into managers who spent 20+ years with the company who would take major offense if you weren't as gung-ho about The Store as they were. Any lack of enthusiasm was at risk for exposing how they wasted their lives working for a company that would throw them out on their asses in a heartbeat. I actually had a store manager tell me I better get my priorities in order because I asked for less hours when I first went back to school. I was bettering myself and was only working this job as a means to an end and it only served to remind the manager that he was probably never going to leave the company. The bottom line is that wrestling is an entire industry based on constantly needing approval, and an atmosphere like that can't help but breed the insecurity that the starting point for any number of mental problems, drug issues, or combination of the two. It's honestly a little surprising that it took this long for something of this magnitude to happen.

This will be a HUGE mess for WWE if this becomes public knowledge. I hate to sound alarmist but this is so far beyond the usual "cover up something potentially bad for business" wrestling bullshit that I really see this becoming the one thing that could potentially bring down WWE as we know it, or at least open a lot of people's eyes. Of course that being said, WWE will cover it up and most media outlets will probably never investigate since it's not as lurid as tales of roid rage or whatever.

I don't know if Meltzer counts, but he was able to hold his own (while looking like he was hit by a bus) against a windbag like John Gibson who was trying to interrupt him every 5 seconds with the "OMG STEROIDS~!" bullshit.

I tell you one thing that was impacted by the tragedy: my online habits. I can't thank Loss enough for providing us with shelter from the stupids during all this. I tried reading DVDVR again and there's *still* people making the claim that Benoit is innocent and it's wrong to assume otherwise just because the cops say so. This is pretty much the only wrestling board I read/post at now, just because I'm reasonably confident no one here is going to spout some silly bullshit that is going to make me want to kick my dog. I'll admit when the details started to slowly surface, I thought at first the murder-suicide aspect was something being wrongly reported by the media. Pretty much by the next day I realized what was being said really was what happened and dealt with reality. It sucks, but sometimes facts get in the way of what you wish was true. That can be applied to almost any kind of fervent fandom, so it seems somewhat unfair to single out wrestling fans, but then again we're all being conned into suspending belief in what we watch is legitimate sport. If you can buy that, the sky's the limit I guess.

Not to threadjack, but from just a cursory glance (especially at the Politics forum) it seems the Pit is primarily made up of people who were banned from other boards for reasons other than the jackboot thuggery of the vaunted PC Police. I am glad that TheMikeSC found a place to continue fighting the good fight against the Liberal Menace. Anything to keep the wackoids off the streets.

Upon reading the Maven story, I'm shocked any self respecting gay man would allow his eyebrows to get that out of control.

It will probably be difficult to watch Benoit matches for a while when everything's fresh, and it will probably be a little jarring when Woman comes out to manage someone for a little bit, but honestly anyone who throws out all their Benoit tapes but still watches WCCW is a hypocritical douchebag. Maybe I'm just jaded but it's just part of the job when you're a wrestling fan to have to compartmentalize the fact that 3/4ths of these guys are batshit insane. Now the situation this time is a little more extreme than the usual circumstances of a wrestling death, but that will just end up meaning it will take a little longer for things to get back to normal.

Not to mention the slo-mo replay right after.

It's not unheard of for women who marry wrestlers to end up using the same drugs they do. Just saying.

Man, watching the tribute show now is just flat out creepy. Especially when Edge says "I don't understand things like this", you can't help but wonder exactly what he's thinking.

Honestly, I don't think I could watch a Benoit match anymore.

So who were the two co-workers Benoit was sending the text messages to? One obviously was Chavo, but who was the second person?

I can't see how they can tape 3 hours of TV, even if it's just straight wrestling matches, under the circumstances. This is so much more than the usual wrestling tragedy where someone with a history of drug use is found OD'd or dead of some form of chemically induced heart failure. Even with Owen it was just a freak accident and not the result of a murderous rampage. More power to whoever can perform tonight, even JBL seemed pretty shaken up. I guess at least Smackdown can rely on being taped to help move things along.

Jesus Christ..............

Yeah, fuck WWE and fuck Benoit for putting his family above a hastily thrown together PPV. I don't think there's one person who wouldn't tell their boss "hey I gotta jet" if something goes down with their family. Man, as fucked up as the business can be at times (ok, most of the time), I end up hating wrestling fans the most. Yeah, I really hate this guy right about now. Wonder if he's okay with WWE's choice of ECW champion now.

My Spanish is rudimentary at best, but I'm pretty sure Dandy and Pierroth were the captains here. That replay of Pierroth folding in half on the apron after the rope break was pretty sick. It's kind of ironic that for all the flying moves in lucha, the ropes would break on something so basic.

Oh man, the feedback on WO makes me want to punch babies in the face: Yeah, fuck WWE and fuck Benoit for putting his family above a hastily thrown together PPV. I don't think there's one person who wouldn't tell their boss "hey I gotta jet" if something goes down with their family. Man, as fucked up as the business can be at times (ok, most of the time), I end up hating wrestling fans the most.

From the WO PPV preview: Benoit ended up not making the show, so lets hope wildpeg didn't lock Nancy in a closet and greet Chris at the door with one of her dresses on.

Not that Hansen wasn't awesome, but his punches and clotheslines looked good because he was legit clobbering people half the time since he was close to blind without his glasses on.

Bah. You can go to Luchawiki and search for their bios and see the pics there. Suffice it to say all three Mysterii have the same general mask style so it's not as if Hijo is trying to ape his cousin.

Was Bischoff telling him what to say in WCW? Cause I liked the scholarly-if-kinda-molester-looking Tenay from WCW educating the masses on all the cool Lucha dudes who were jobbing on Nitro that week. The problem with TNA Tenay is that announcing teams always have one guy who's levelheaded and one guy who's yelling and screaming. Tenay seems like he's trying to outscream everyone else and when he's sitting next to Don West that is just not going to happen at all. Ironically I like West as the David Crockett on 15 cups of coffee. He clearly likes his job and you can't help but to get into the action a little bit more when DW is marking out like a 5 year old.

Meltz in the WON: So I guess that means Dave or one of his minions lurks either here or at DVDVR?

I think it's just the Mysterio family mask style. When Sr. was still masked it was the same style as well. Rey Sr masked: The Family Mysterio:

One thing you have to hand to TNA, they have the best looking title belts right now. ROH's look like someone copied the Watts' UWF belt for their backyard fed.