Ricky Jackson

Can't wait until Vince tries to "stick it" to the Dems with some lame ass, self-indulgent skit on Raw.

Could it be...

HHH for President in 2020!

This random episode of TNT from 1984 sounds a million times more interesting than any WWE TV in 2012.

This sounds like such a wonderfully strange match. (Coincidently, I took out a book from the library today called Wrestling`s 101 Strangest Matches)

"Ted DiBiase fucking with a stripper/Bitch pay me stacks, I'm the cocaine dealer" Lil B, "Jerry Rice" That one is for you, Jerry. Also, this is so great:

I`ve found it best to generally avoid WWE from September through December in recent years. Although this year I`ve avoided most everything since May. Things will pick up in the new year. I think. Maybe.

I think the beginning of the Attitude Era was a great time to be a wrestling fan, with an energy and enthusiasm in the air on a weekly basis that nothing has come remotely close to recapturing since. So much of the fun of the 97-98 years was watching wrestling change from the mostly stale cartoon it had become back into what it had once been, with the amped up violence and adult-oriented content. There was also the intrigue of kayfabe being broken and the new, faster paced, high spot ring style, as well as all the new stars emerging like Austin, the Rock, Foley, etc. You had three promotions, each with their own unique features. It was cool and it was really fun, beacuse all of my friends were into wrestling too, which is the last time I could say that. But with each passing year, for me anyway, it became less and less fun and more and more stupid (yeah, an oxymoron, but you know what I mean), and I began to rapidly lose interest, to the point I was all but done as a fan by the end of 2001. Today, it`s hard for me to watch wrestling from the Attitude Era because so much of the interest in it at the time was in the shock and surprise factor of the weekly TV, and removed from that context there doesn`t seem to be much weight to a lot of the content. I much prefer watching stuff from the 70s, 80s and early 90s. I know this doesn`t really answer the impact and effects question. I guess for fans like us who mostly romanticize the pre-Attitude Era days of wrestling, one could say the Attitude Era killed off the territory-style of wrestling we love. For Vince and the gang, the Attitude Era was the greatest thing that ever happened. For a lot of fans it was the era of wrestling that got them hooked in the first place and will always be fondly remembered. I think I`ll leave it to others to give serious debate to how it has impacted modern wrestling.

I forget where this was discussed recently, but I just watched the Punk doc from the DVD and it is really good. It tells an awesome story, as good as the best WWE docs.

Current WWE is just really, really BORING. I try to watch Raw, but God, 3 hours of endless twitter plugs and other "social media" shit and I tap out pretty quickly. I'm just not interested in what Vince is selling these days. I really like Bryan and Punk and Sheamus and a few others, but the overall presentation is banal and nothing really seems to matter on a week to week basis. Basically I'm just waiting for January to roll around for the build to Mania and see what happens then.

I would take the 80s, mainly because of the variety, the fact there is so much territory/Japan stuff from that decade I haven't seen yet, and the wrestling presented is more or less my ideal style. I have very fond memories of the 90s, but I rarely revisit much from that decade, and just don't have much interest to do so these days. I also love what is available from the 70s and watch more footage from that decade than I do the 90s.

Every time I read something like that I'm reminded of Max von Sydow's intellectual elitist character in Woody Allen's Hannah and Her Sisters and his "What kind of human being watches professional wrestling?" (or something like that) quote.

And a lot of the Mid South stuff on YouTube has been purged lately due to claims by WWE.

OK, I admittedly don't know a lot about Murdoch (was he really a KKK member?) or the motivations of any of these guys for doing what they did, none of us do. Who knows why they jumped from territory to territory and country to country. People do things that don't seem to "make sense" to another person, but that doesn't mean what they do isn't logical to them. I think Murdoch was probably a guy who just liked his freedom and the ability to pick and choose his spots and wasn't tied down to any particular place.

I've always thought that some guys liked working in Japan, like Murdoch, Terry Funk, etc., while others for various reasons didn't, even with the promise of high pay. Basically like how some people love traveling and experiencing other cultures while others dislike being away from their familiar surroundings.

So who was the "top star" who told Vince the current product sucks balls prior to last Monday's show?

Jimmy Snuka took piledrivers on the floor from Ray Stevens in 82 and Col DeBeers in 86. Quite heated and violent stuff in the DeBeers clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOSiIICff6U

It's good, definitely in the mix with the best biography docs done by WWE, but hardly the best. I think I would go with either the Flair or Pillman bio as the best one. The recent Austin and Rock bios were better than Jericho's IMO.

Maybe seeing that poll was the last straw for Vince

The Hart's were in a somewhat delicate situation with Ed, as they relied on his influence with Channel 7 in order to have a show on the air, so they often had to bend over backwards to appease the guy. His presence on the show also legitimized Stampede wrestling for many fans and non-fans, as Ed was an icon in the Calgary community for several decades. Did he hurt the product at times? Probably. Was he a good announcer? Compared to the all-time greats, no. Did he wear Cliff Huxtable sweaters? I always picture Ed as a suit and tie guy, but I haven't really watched much Stampede in the YouTube era, so he probably did near the end of the run.

It is probably going to be Eric Bischoff. Abyss/Park will be the "mole" & Bully Ray will turn on Sting. I haven't watched a second of this angle, but Bischoff was the first name that came to mind when I started reading this thread. I also wonder if by using Aces and 8's as a name (the "Deadman's Hand") TNA is trying to con the rubes into thinking Taker is behind it.

Yeah, I wrote about Nash's bullshit during that episode in another thread a while ago. Can't remember which one. What disappointed me was nobody on the panel called him out on any of it.

I think he meant the WWF lost some big sponsers, like Coca Cola, around 1999 because of pressure from parents groups over the Russo-scripted sleaze on Raw IIRC.

I think Russo might be booking Monday Night Football. Nah, the ending to that game was too subtle for him--maybe if the ref ripped off his shirt to reveal a Seahawks jersey...

I don't think he did. I can remember reading the one he did for Konnan, but not Mysterio. Didn't Meltzer fall way behind on a bunch of bios around that time? I also seem to remember a promised AWA history or Gagne bio that never materialized as well.