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  1. Fantastic

    Current WWE

    Man, that was ultra over the top. In full view of the camera, the referees both looked at each, turned to face the entranceway, and simultaneously and with emphasis raised their hands in the "X" sign together.
  2. If he and Nikki Bella decide to have kids, you can bet that he's going to age a fuckload in the period leading to conception.
  3. The most recent instance I can think of is John Cena and Randy Orton using their clout to get Mr Kennedy ousted for being reckless with Orton's shoulder. Tyler Reks has claimed that John Cena put a stop to him using the Burning Hammer as his finish because Cena felt it was "too close" to his own.
  4. Couldn't tell you the extent of Flair's, but Cena: United States Championship - Defeated Big Show (March 14th 2004) - Defeated Booker T (October 3rd 2004) - Defeated Carlito (November 16th 2004) WWE and World Heavyweight Championship - Defeated JBL (April 3rd 2005) - Defeated Edge (January 8th 2006) - Defeated Edge (July 3rd 2006) - Defeated Chris Jericho (November 23rd 2008) *WHC - Defeated Big Show and Edge (April 5th 2009) *WHC - Defeated Randy Orton (September 13th 2009) - Defeated Randy Orton (October 25th 2009) - Defeated Triple H, Randy Orton, Sheamus, Kofi Kingston and Ted Dibiase (February 21st 2010) - Defeated Batista (March 28th 2010) - Defeated The Miz (May 21st 2011) - Defeated Rey Mysterio (July 25th 2011) *Co-WWE Championship - Defeated Alberto Del Rio (September 18th 2011) - Defeated The Rock (April 7th 2013) - Defeated Alberto Del Rio (October 27th 2013) *WHC - Defeated Alberto Del Rio, Bray Wyatt, Cesaro, Kane, Randy Orton, Roman Reigns and Sheamus (June 29th 2014) WWE and World Tag Team Championship W/ Shawn Michaels - Defeated Edge and Randy Orton (January 29th 2007) *WTT W/ Batista - Defeated Ted Dibiase and Cody Rhodes (August 4th 2008) *WTT W/ David Otunga - Defeated Drew McIntyre and Cody Rhodes (September 29th 2010) W/ The Miz - Defeated Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel (February 21st 2011) Total: 22 championship reigns
  5. I'm wondering how long before John Cena decides that he cannot physically endure through his ridiculous schedule any more and cuts thing back a bit. The guy is 37 years old, he's got a list of injuries and a knack of not taking extended periods of recovery. How long is the wrestling bug going to last though? I don't think Cena harbors any particularly strong ambition of being a Hollywood star, but there's always the possibility that something else might divert his attention from wrestling.
  6. I just realised watching Raw last night that John Cena is now a 15 time world champion. One more reign would tie him with Ric Flair's recognised world title reigns, and negate that distinction of Flair's that both WCW and WWE have used to promote him over the years. My first thought is that he probably will. WWE seems to pull out all the stops in order to decorate Cena in any way that they can, as they seem determined to make a star that's bigger than both Hogan and Austin (it's not working, by the way). However, upon watching the little show of respect between Cena and Flair last night, I'm wondering whether WWE will preserve Flair's 16 time record out of respect and legacy? John Cena certainly doesn't need more title reigns. He's beyond the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, in much the same way the likes of Triple H and The Undertaker are beyond world title reigns. Obviously, Cena isn't part time like them, but he doesn't add any more value to the title now he's had so many reigns (many of which were uneventful or transitional), and holding the title doesn't elevate him any further either. He's the pinnacle of WWE, his name alone (not preceded by "WWE World Heavyweight Champion) sells tickets and PPV's. So, lets put it to the poll.
  7. Most Overrated: Bret Hart. I've always viewed him as a solid dependable guy that occasionally put on great matches, but wasn't near the standard of iconic greatness that some people apply to him. Facing facts, Owen Hart was a far better and more gifted athletically in-ring than Bret, it's just Bret had a degree of the goods needed to be an all round entertainer and he happened to be in the right place at the right time (1990-1997 WWF). Most Underrated: Dustin Rhodes. A guy when he's motivated and in shape can make pretty much anybody look like a million bucks, even well into his 40's. He's a master of both tag team and singles wrestling, and a great character performer. As Goldust in the mid 1990's, there was potential for a WWF Championship run based on the talking people were doing about the character. It may have happened had WWF decided to tread more risque in favor of cheap ratings. Another wrestler overshadowed by his more famous father.
  8. Great find! Only 21 years of age, that also makes her the youngest Divas champion of all time. I believe Rene Dupree still holds the record for being the youngest champion in WWE history, he was 19 when he became one of the World Tag Team champions. Jeff Hardy was the youngest wrestler to actually wrestle for WWE, he was 16 in his first match.
  9. Fantastic

    Current WWE

    I believe this was Terry Funk's favored approach also.
  10. That's also where they went wrong. Trying to fill the Brock gap with Lashley was terrible on WWE's part, namely because Lashley as you say, was incapable of bringing Brock's characteristics to the table. Lesnar is an anomaly in so many ways. He's a once-in-a-lifetime athlete, with the credentials to back it up (Lashley's pre and post WWE accomplishments pale in comparison to Brock's) who can put on magnificent matches, move like a guy half his size, sell with the best of them, work with virtually anybody from Big Show to Zach Gowen, and still cut a good promo. He set the bar so high that nobody could really fill his shoes upon his departure from WWE. This point always confused me.... I agree that Lesnar was a fine promo, especially in the Guerrero build up. How did he become so terrible in 2012 and DESPERATELY need Heyman? He can be a great promo, he's just not consistently great as per your Cena's, Punk's, Austin's, etc. First and foremost, Lesnar's actions will always speak louder. This. Brock is better focusing on what he does best consistently: his matches, physical angles, presence and body language, etc. Heyman brings the heat, it's very likely if he wasn't paired with Heyman that people would be cheering for him, on the basis that he's phenomenal in ring and people like booing the ultra clean babyfaces.
  11. That's also where they went wrong. Trying to fill the Brock gap with Lashley was terrible on WWE's part, namely because Lashley as you say, was incapable of bringing Brock's characteristics to the table. Lesnar is an anomaly in so many ways. He's a once-in-a-lifetime athlete, with the credentials to back it up (Lashley's pre and post WWE accomplishments pale in comparison to Brock's) who can put on magnificent matches, move like a guy half his size, sell with the best of them, work with virtually anybody from Big Show to Zach Gowen, and still cut a good promo. He set the bar so high that nobody could really fill his shoes upon his departure from WWE.
  12. Fantastic

    Current WWE

    He was pretty much holding NOAH together in 2012. He's still an awesome worker when motivated. I think if WWE is willing to play to his strengths, he'll have a decent chance, he just needs to familiarise himself with the "entertainment" aspect.
  13. Hmm, Bobby Lashley had absolutely nothing the way of personality during his WWE run. I'm not sure if anything has changed now as I rarely watch TNA, but the guy was essentially Batista without charisma (hey! That rhymes). No, they needed somebody with a big personality, a "larger than life" presence as Vince is fond of saying.
  14. Hulk Hogan looks like a hotdog, wearing ketchup and mustard.
  15. Anybody else notice that Dennis Knight strongly resembled Undertaker on occasion?
  16. Stevie Richards had his own column at one point.
  17. Triple H is the cover feature in this months Muscle and Fitness magazine. Interesting read, he goes into detail about contacting Joe DeFranco after realising that he needed to start training smart (read: a history of injuries and the inability to do things the way he once did). He at one stage mentioned "having to train like Floyd Mayweather" just to get in wrestling shape for one or two matches a year. Most interestingly though, DeFranco actually put together a specific training routine, solely for Triple H to be able to do the spot where he lifted Brock up and slammed him down whilst locked in the Kimrua.
  18. - John Cena, CM Punk, and Rey Mysterio are the only three men in WWE history to be co-recognised as WWE Champion. Making it even more complicated, Punk is the only man to be co-recognised as WWE Champion with two different co-champions.
  19. It always seems to go wrong when a wrestler lets another wrestler cut them.
  20. Kawada's position on the pecking order went to hell in 1996 for publicly calling out Baba on his opposition to interpromotional events. It stands to reason that Kawada may have been arguing with Baba about these issues behind the scenes prior to going public with it. If that's the case, it's possible that the "slap in the face" booking was Baba simply asserting himself over Kawada for questioning his decisions. Then again Motoko Baba always loved Kobashi, and Giant Baba himself was deeply invested in making Kobashi a star. It could also stand to reason that this was part of the process. Namely, it was far too soon for Kobashi to go over or draw against the "ace" - Misawa, so Kawada was the next best scenario. No wonder Kawada always looks so pissed off. He spent most of his career being the "next best alternative".
  21. If it's SummerSlam you're talking about, I think the time they were given was just fine for those particular workers. They didn't wrestle at King of the Ring. My mistake, Invasion era is a blur! You're right, it was Summerslam. However, I still think if they had maybe five minutes more, and some more big moves, it could have been a real kickass match.
  22. Kobashi vs Kawada - 1.19.1995 Amazing match, but it really went on far too long. The draw was an important instance of storytelling, but it meant that the match had a hell of a lot of needless filler that messed with the action.
  23. Edge vs. Lance Storm - KOTR 2001
  24. Well, a lot of the guys seem to do weed as an alternative to painkillers when working injured and such. It stands to reason that Heenan might have been doing the same, although I'm willing to be Heenan was almost as notorious as Ric Flair for partying. He seems the type! - Seth Rollins has the highest Meltzer rating average out of all WWE wrestlers, not to mention anyone who has ever wrestled for WWE.
  25. Really? I've never heard this. I suppose it isn't exactly out of the realms of possibility, it's not like recreational drug use is solely confined to the wrestlers. Wasn't Heenan having a lot of neck problems around this time also? Thought of another interesting one earlier - Despite being a main event heel and prominent mid carder at various times throughout the 1980's and early 1990's, Roddy Piper has never competed on a Summerslam (the second biggest PPV of the year) card.
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