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Anybody wanna defend or argue for Tony Garea before April 2026? These were the kinds of discussions I loved reading from last time around
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Just last month MLW had CW Anderson killed off in storyline by their champion in a Chamber of Horrors match and Brock Anderson had a match last week to get revenge (which he lost). I just thought that was funny. Anyway here's some actual opinions on CW from the discord.
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Some posts from the discord and the matches outlawjamboree are linked under the screenshot Dynamite Kid vs Leo Burke Nick Bockwinkel vs Leo Burke AWA World title match WWC: Invader #1 vs. Leo Burke (1990) Ron Starr vs Leo Burke
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The biggest indictment of Bobby Fish as a performer is that as soon as he got injured in 2018 and Kyle O'Reilly teamed with Roderick Strong instead all of a sudden Kyle & Roddy were literally the best tag team in the world.
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You can't vote on someone if they haven't had a comment since April 2021, actually. This is not clearly stated anywhere on the message board, as far as I can tell it's only been said on the discord.
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There's more than 100 wrestlers who have threads but as of right now will be ineligible to vote on in April as nobody has posted in their threads since the last poll. But for many of these wrestlers people have expressed opinions about them in the discord server. If nobody objects to me screenshotting posts from their and putting them here as evidence that these wrestlers have been discussed since the last poll in a GWE context, I will do so for a bunch of 'em. Anyway here's Matt D's thoughts on Sakaguchi.
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Noriyo Tateno I didn't want to be the one to do this because I probably won't vote for her, but at this stage it's absurd that she doesn't have a thread. The Jumping Bomb angels are really great, they often kill it in their home promotion, they look 20 years ahead of their time in WWF. And it's not obvious watching them team that Tateno is in any way behind Yamazaki. Jumping Bomb Angels vs Crush Gals 1987-09-14 Dawn Marie , Donna Christianello, Glamour Girls & Sensational Sherri vs. Jumping Bomg Angels, Rockin' Robin, The Fabulous Moolah & Velvet McIntyre 1987-11-26 vs Chigusa Nagayo 1988-07-19
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Anyone who made the mistake of voting for him in this thread: Young Bucks vs Jimmy Valiant - vs - Pro Wrestling Only want to make the case for him in here so you're actually allowed vote for him? Anyway he was a horrible worker in Crockett, by far the worst pushed guy they had.
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Truly a great example of an ECW guy who while he was there had his strengths emphasised and weaknesses hidden. Not good enough for a top 100 of all time, but probably underrated by most people who watch a lot of wrestling. Not bad in WWE at all but never what he was in ECW.
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I love seeing wild ass takes you'd never see anywhere else, like Blue Demon Jr vs Dr Wagner Jr from Triplemania 2019 was the 9th greatest match of all time.
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I think being in trios as opposed to singles helps him a lot in those CMLL matches
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It seems crazy in retrospect that Wrestling Observer Newsletter readers voted this guy most outstanding wrestling in 2012. I actually think he's pretty good in the ROH midcard in like 07 and 08. He's exciting, he's intense and he doesn't really understand how a match should actually be put together.
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Been thinking about this and looking into candidates as an exercise for myself I've ranked the candidates in each section on how I see their cases and I've added a little cut off for who I think should be in the Hall of Fame (as I wouldn't vote for the maximum number in every category) MODERN NORTH AMERICA 1) Cody Rhodes 2) C.M. Punk 3) Sabu 4) Samoa Joe 5) Jon Moxley 6) Bill Goldberg ___________________________________________________ 7) Mercedes Mone/Sasha Banks 8 Becky Lynch 9) Kevin Nash & Scott Hall 10) Mark & Jay Briscoe 11) Matt & Jeff Hardy 12) Seth Rollins 13) FTR (Dax Harwood & Cash Wheleer) 14) Bill Dundee 15) Randy Orton 16) Rick & Scott Steiner 17) Edge/Adam Copeland 18) Trish Stratus 19) Drew McIntyre HISTORICAL NORTH AMERICA 1) Junkyard Dog 2) June Byers 3) Cowboy Bob Ellis 4) Mad Dog & Butcher Vachon 5) Wild Bull Curry _______________________________________________ 6) Ole Anderson 7) Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood 8 Archie "Mongolian Stomper" Gouldie 9) Sputnik Monroe. 10) Kevin & Kerry & David Von Erich 11) Dusty Rhodes & Dick Murdoch 12) Sweet Daddy Siki 13) Pampero Firpo 14) British Bulldogs (Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith) 15) Bob Armstrong 16) Hart Foundation (Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart) 17) Iron Sheik 18) Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson w/J.J. Dillon 19) Afa & Sika Anoa'i No comment on Black Gordman & Great Goliath as I just feel like I know almost nothing about their case JAPAN 1) Hayabusa ______________________________________ 2) Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada 3) Yoshihiro Takayama 4) Io Shirai/Iyo Sky 5) Meiko Satomura 6) Masaaki Mochizuki 7) Tiger Jeet Singh 8 Yoshiaki Fujiwara 9) Zack Sabre Jr. 10) Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan 11) Antonio Inoki & Seiji Sakaguchi MEXICO 1) Gran Hamada 2) Dorrell Dixon 3) Mascarita Sagrada __________________________________________ 4) Sangre Chicana 5) Los Infernales (El Satanico & Pirata Morgan & MS 1) 6) Volador Jr. 7) Angel Blanco & Dr.Wagner 8 La Parka AAA 9) El Dandy 10) El Hijo del Santo & Octagon REST OF WORLD 1) Jose Tarres 2) Ted Boy Marino 3) Spyros Arion 4) George Gordienko ___________________________ 5) Gilbert Leduc 6) Billy Joyce 7) The Royal Brothers (Bert Royal & Vic Faulkner) 8 Killer Karl Kox 9) Les Kellett 10) Otto Wanz 11) Steve Grey 12) Dominic DeNucci 13) Adrian Street If my ballot were real I’d be very annoyed at having to leave Leduc out NON-WRESTLERS 1) Bobby Bruns (Japan) 2) Roy Welch (U.S. & Canada historical) 3) Morris Sigel (U.S. & Canada historical) 4) Ted Turner (U.S. & Canada modern) 5) Grand Wizard (U.S & Canada historical) 6) George Scott (U.S. & Canada historical) ____________________________________________________ 7) Jesse Ventura (U.S. & Canada historical) 8 Zane Bresloff (U.S.& Canada modern) 9) Jim Johnston (U.S. & Canada modern) 10) Mike Tenay (U.S. & Canada modern) 11) Gorilla Monsoon (U.S. & Canada historical) 12) Tony Schiavone (U.S. & Canada modern) 13) Bob Caudle (U.S. & Canada historical) 14) Dave Brown (U.S. & Canada modern) 15) Larry Matysik (U.S.& Canada historical) 16) James Melby (U.S. & Canada historical) 17) Bill Mercer (U.S. & Canada historical) 18) Kevin Sullivan (U.S. & Canada historical) 19) Joe Higuchi (Japan) 20) Koichi Yoshizawa (Japan) 21) Rossy Ogawa (Japan) 22) Stanley Weston (U.S. & Canada historical) 23) Reggie Parks (U.S. & Canada modern)
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Y'know I genuinely think he probably does more stooging, sneaky cheating and begging off in the very limited number of matches that we have of him than in all of the Hansen footage we have in totality. While he has some elements of scary intimidating heel, I don't think Hansen is quite the right comparison point
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I have to believe if you sat down and watched the two mediocre Savage-Flair matches from December 1995 (the Starrcade match and the one from Nitro a few days before), you couldn't possibly say that either of them were better than every single Danielson match, surely
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I hope neither Zack Sabre Jr or Fujiwara get in
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Huge credit to these two for managing to have an effective emotional mask match when the audience all paid to see a different mask match they didn't get.
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