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Posted this in the Discord "I think you can a case on Dusty Rhodes being a great worker. Really good selling (ex: The Barry Windham claw match) and a good house of energy). He's really good, is a fun old man wrestler, and has great strikes energy (ex: The Sheild vs. Cody and Goldust). The first War Games is all time great match and he's in it the whole time. I don't know if he'll make my list but, I could see a case even without promos. I connect to him more than Atsushi Onita and Hulk Hogan who feel like comps for him." I'm also factoring promos/angles and he's a very good promo/angle wrestler.

Yuji Okabayashi is someone I connect too alot of I think him. Hoping to go deeper into his career. He is one of the best torch passing matches ever vs. Yuya Aoki and in one of the best avant garde matches ever in the 2016 Posiden Adventure Splash Match (Ryuji Ito, Speed Of Sounds (Hercules Senga & Tsutomu Oosugi) & Yuji Okabayashi vs. Brahman Brothers (Brahman Kei & Brahman Shu), Shinobu, and Takayuki Ueki). I think he is also one of my favorite tag team wrestlers this decade, also active, supportive, and a great corner man for pepole lower in BJW's pecking order. He also so good at comedy wrestling too. Not sure where he will rank but, he'll probably make my list

Really interesting and fun wrestler. It's so cool that as the Mascarita Dorada base guy and a very violent brawler. Really enjoyed his 2024 work. The 2008 n Pequeno Reyes Del Aire is so fun.

Really cool wrestler, someone I am hoping to look into deeper on. Something that really stands out is fighting like a jock wrestler I think one of his biggest strengths might be facial selling. Great bleeder too. In some of one of my favorite BJW's with Daisuke Sekimoto & Yoshihito Sasaki vs. Jaki Numazawa & Jun Kasai (the babred wire one specifically). He radiates heart, hoping to watch more of him. I hope he is enjoying his post wrestling career life.

Very fun show, I expected to be a festival of wrestling type show more than a super show. The scenery was super cool. The elimination tag is great match! Mad Dog Connelly vs. Adam Priest is a very good but, not near their peak. I feel like Mad Dog Connelly and Adam Priest will get something really at DEAN ~!!! 3. Very fun pro wrestling and enjoyed that I watched it

Akira Tozawa is such an interesting case of a wrestler, one of the best wrestlers and most likable wrestlers in the 2009-2010s (I ranked 6th best wrestler of the 2010s last year) sandwiched an odd gimmick in Dragon Gate and WWE not really showcasing him much for reasons I am not sure off. He has a lot of fun matches and is very charismatic but, theres also a great sense of heart and emotionally connectivity. When he gets chances to showcase himself he does well and comes across as big effort, I enjoyed his match against Jinder Mahal on Main Event last year (he proabably has more fun matches on Main Event that I just havent seen yet) and a fun squash against Gunther this year. He also holds a a special place in my heart because he was the main event of the first indie show I was a part of (New Wave Pro Wrestling vs. Locura). I think he will make my list.

Adam Page is not someone I'm really considering, that might change. He's probably the best promo in the modern era and a great wrestler. I can totally see him making someones list especially with the emotional attachment he gives off. He has a pretty credible case especially if a voter considers his CWF Mid Atlantic work that's pretty accessible (watched him vs. Trevor Lee early in his career, it was good) and ROH work. Thats 15 years of work. He was even good in watching him in 2012 live against Arik Royal at PWS Wrestle Reunion for like a few minutes before getting attacked by Vader. He feels like someone who personally land at good plus - great/100 wrestlers I probably like more than him.

I am trying to think of good jobbers to have on my list to range 90-100 with Mike Jackson and/or George South. Is anybody else considering putting a jobber on your list and who? If not, who do you think is the best jobber in general is.

These have a strong chance of being my 1 and 2 or 2 and 1.

There's something charming and comforting about watching Demolition Ax's indie matches. It feels like street fair wrestling in the most fun ways. I realized that his tag team partner was in WCW but, I wasn't sure what he was up too. I also really like his match with King Kong Bundy. Really enjoyed Bobby Fulton (one of the Fantastics) vs. Demolition Ax. It's so interesting to see Bobby Fulton as the stooging, mascot attacking heel. This match takes place on a baseball field! Water gets dumped on him, it's such a fun time. The Pez Whatley vs. Ricky Morton match on this show is super fun too. NDW is New Dimension Wrestling The promotions website is looks like like this, I appreciate the million dollar reward clickbait and having like 10 click here now links. https://web.archive.org/web/19981212031259/http://www.ndwwrestling.com/

Jun Kasai is probably besides Mick Foley (insert wrestlers) first hardcore match. He has such a great charisma and charm. I think one of his difficulties is when a match is not clicking he is not great at steering it but, is also in some all time great matches against a variety of opponents. I feel like he'll be on my list and probably the highest deathmatch wrestler on it too. I also add Some of these matches are very bloody Jun Kasai & Mitsuhiro Matsunaga vs. Nick Gage & Zandig - BJW 2000 Daisuke Sekimoto & Yoshihito Sasaki vs. Jaki Numazawa & Jun Kasai - BJW 11/22/2010 Akebono, Sanshiro Takagi & Touru Owashi vs. Antonio Honda, Hoshitango & Jun Kasai - DDT 2013 Hyper Misao vs. Jun Kasai - TJPW 2018 Jun Kasai vs. MAO - DDT 2018 El Desperado vs. Jun Kasai - JTO 2022 Daiju Wakamatsu, Hideyoshi Kamitani, and Tomoya Hirata vs. Jun Kasai, Toshiyuki Sakuda, and Yuki Ishikawa - FREEDOMS 2023 https://youtu.be/BehBi3hZLYk?si=JpagE5iJkXa2T-PP Jun Kasai vs. Rina Yamashita - FREEDOMS 2024 (FREEDOMS Pro-Wrestling Train Group AWE Hataage)

Jeff Jarrett always wins! I think if Jeff Jarrett was not a kind of forced TNA main eventer his reputation would probably be alot better. I kind of get why Jeff was positioned on top (being worried WWE would sign their top stars) and the Jeff Jarrett having fun stuff in his run. I think it is kind of rough by comparison given that he was a main eventer as a top star when Abyss, AJ Styles, Monty Brown, and Samoa Joe in 2004-2006 was there was rough. He's a great (potentially all time great) mid carder. He really great at stooging and bumping around. His Memphis stuff is so fun especially in tags. He shows good face fire. His most recent AEW run has been so good and fun. His matches have so fun. He comes across as so earnest but, also as cheesey. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Match with Jeff Hardy rocks! Jeff Jarrett rules! Still looking through his career. He also has some great brawls in the Bryan Danielson match and the 3/9 The House Of Black (Brody King, Buddy Matthews, & Malakai Black) vs. Jay Lethal, Jeff Jarrett, and Mark Briscoe AEW Collision match! He's a lock for my list. Jeff Jarrett Recs Jeff Jarrett, Alan West, JT Southern, Paul Diamond & Mark Starr vs. Shima, Tarzan Goto, Tojo Yamamoto, The Hunter & Boy Tony (CWA, 3/14/87)

Stardom uploaded Tam Nakano vs. Saya Kamitani for a limited time. I watched this match with little context on both but, think it is a great match.

Someone who is apart of alot of really great matches and I am interested to go deeper into his work. I could see him making my list.

Someone who I think is very good but, I'm not sure who will fit on my list. I think he is cool and has great charisma with amazing act with Prince Nana. Really good presence too and good+ in-ring. He has great perfomances specifically in the Bryan Danielson - All In match, the Adam Page feud, some stuff in CZW, Lucha Underground, and more. I feel like as wrestler he's hasn't reached the all time stage but, he a fixture on my wrestler of the year list and might make it there later. Also his theme song is very catchy especially in arena.

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Mei Suruga I think she might be a better a better contender for a GWE list down the line or someone to put in the lower 90s. With she brings a sense of fun enthusiasm and creativity constantly. She is ball of charisma. I think since started she has gotten wrestling and made it her on (she debuted in 2018 and I think she's had a special charm to her work since 2019). In the 7 years of her career so far she has been put in so many roles and done well (great excited rookie, underdog, generational class rival, trainer, and ace of a promotion) Another part of her charm is despite having most of her matches in the Ichigaya Chocolate Square (no ring dentist office sized venue) she to well in so many places. Her time in CMLL to during the Womans Grand Prix in Arena Mexico stands out. I think something that kind of holds her back is she sometimes try to go to forced epic or had difficulties playing the overdog in a match. I think this year she has become better at that. I think its really impressive and performances how many great matches she has had so far. The Mei Saint Michel where teams up with Sakisama (Saki Akai) in NEO Biishiki-gun run is also very, very fun. Mei Suruga vs. Kaori Yoneyama (Gatoh Move, 8/17/19) Black Menso-re & Pink Menso-re vs. Hikaru Sato & Natsu Sumire (AJPW, 2/26/20) Mei Suruga vs. Ryo Mizunami - Falls Count Anywhere (Gatoh Move ChocoPro, 10/4/20) Maki Itoh & Miyu Yamashita vs. NEO Biishiki-gun (Mei Saint-Michel & Sakisama) (TJPW Positive Chain, 2/11/21) Magical Sugar Rabbits (Mizuki & Yuka Sakazaki) vs. NEO Biishiki-gun (Mei Saint-Michel & Sakisama) (TJPW Wrestle Princess 2, 10/9/21) AZM vs. Mei Suruga (STARDOM Cinderella Tournament 2022 Final, 4/29/22) Mei Suruga vs. Yuna Mizumori (Gatoh Move 10th Anniversary, 9/15/22) Team Mexico (Dalys, Faby, La Amapola, La Jarochita, Lluvia, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit & Reyna Isis) vs. Team World (Alex Gracia, Avispa Dorada, Hikari Shimizu, Ivelisse, Lady Frost, Mei Suruga, Stephanie Vaquer & Tae Honma) (CMLL International Women's Grand Prix, 10/28/22) Emi Sakura vs. Mei Suruga (Gatoh Move For The Future, 8/31/24) Emi Sakura & Masahiro Takanashi vs. BestBros (Baliyan Akki & Mei Suruga) (ChocoPro #422, 1/13/25) Chie Koishikawa vs. Mei Suruga (ChocoPro, 3/30/25)

Red Bastien rules! There's something charming about him even when just seeing a photo of him. He's in one of my all time comfort matches in Billy Robinson and Red Bastien vs. Nick Bockwinkel and Ray Stevens!

Doing this project inspired to watch more Jackie Sato. She is very good but, not top 100 level for me unless in near the bottom 10 historical stand outs, wrestlers with little tape, and personal favorites section. I can be her making my list after deep diving her contemporaries in against her. I hope she gets votes. I'm glad I got to watch more of her, excited to learn more about her. Her match 3/15/80 match vs. Monster Ripper was so good it inspired me to go on a Monster Ripper match binge. Jackie Sato vs. Maki Ueda is so great that if we had more of it I would post about as GME contender. Also Beauty Pair is such a great song.

My intro to Slim J is the AEW and ROH run, I really liked The Trustbusters. Theres something that connected to me about Slim J particularly. Hoping to check out more of his work, one of my friends are really excited about and inspired me to check out his earlier work. I could see him making my list in the 80-90s range even higher if lands. I just watched him have a great dog collar match vs. John Skylar at Viral Pro Wrestling. Hoping look deeper into his career. Heres a video essay of from my friends about Slim J and his match vs. Adam Priest.

When thinking about Sawa, my brain goes is this the most me-core wrestler wrestles an action packed sprinting style with serious wrestling, does fun comedy, and avant garde wrestling. I think it's cool he still part time wrestles and the wrestler he inspires alot in Fuminori Abe is one of the best in the world. He currently also does music with ポポチョリス/POPOCHOLISU. Hes a lock for my and is pretty high. I still haven't seen all of his career so he might go even higher too. Match Recs Fujita Hayato & Munenori Sawa vs. Kota Ibushi & Masaaki Mochizuki (Indy Summit 2006 Countdown Pro-Wrestling, 12/31/06) Fugo Fugo Yumeji & Sanshu Tsubakichi vs. Keita Yano & Munenori Sawa (EXIT, 8/24/08) Fugo Fugo Yumeji vs. Munenori Sawa (Uploaded 3/18/09) Munenori Sawa vs. Sanshiro Takagi (DDT King Of DDT, 6/28/09) Munenori Sawa vs. True Great King Kaiser (Remote Controlled Robot) (Uploaded 11/28/09) Bryan Danielson vs. Munenori Sawa (EVOLVE 5, 9/11/10) Daisuke Ikeda and Manabu Suruga vs. Munenori Sawa and Yuki Ishikawa (Fu-Ten BATI-BATI 44, 11/18/11) Manabu Suruga vs. Munenori Sawa (Battlarts Once Upon A Time Battlarts ~Remember That Time~, 11/5/11) Ippanjin Munenori Sawa & Sanshiro Takagi vs. MAO & Mike Bailey vs. Fuminori Abe & Isami Kodaka vs. Chinsuke Nakamura & Michael Nakazawa vs. Smile Squash (Soma Takao & Yuko Miyamoto) (DDT Judgement, 3/25/18) Fuminori Abe & Ippanjin Munenori Sawa vs. Masaaki Mochizuki & YAMATO (DragonGate, 7/8/23) Astronauts (Fuminori Abe & Takuya Nomura) vs. Hikaru Sato and Ippanjin Munenori Sawa (DDT Sanshiro Takagi 30th Anniversary Project ""M&A Pro Wrestling ~MatchMake & Agent~"", 4/29/25) If anybody is looking for mote Munenori Sawa matches recommend searching ( 澤 宗紀 or ランジェリー武藤 / Lingerie Muto). There's also a goof amount of Battlarts on IWTV (2007-2011).

I haven't watched either match the Cody or Randy matches yet. I don't hold it much against him or change the way I'll think of him overall might hurt him in comparing other wrestlers to him though that were better after their peak. I think John Cena needs more reps and not having promos that are clicking (but, that seems to be a WWE environment thing). John Cena is still going to be top 50-60 on my lists for context he is top 30 out the 77 wrestlers I'm confident ranking right now. I can see this run helping a CM Punk, Sami Zayn, Rey Mysterio, or Gunther to see what they can help bring out of a John Cena from a segment and in-ring perspective.

Thank you! That helps and I didn't think about that way

Someone who will probably make my list in the 90s (will probably put, alot of emotional attachment wrestlers there). One of Jeff Hardy's strongest aspects is emotional connection. There's something about him that just connects. One of my favorite wrestlers as a kid, in middle school I was assigned to write a paper on any celebrity for a project a project. I have a friend who is mostly WWE tv wrestling watching fan and the main wrestler that sticks with them is Jeff Hardy if I remember correctly. He brings so much energy and enthusiasm with him. To add to Jimmy's point, he such a great seller but, also really good at bumping too. I haven't watcbed it in a long while but, proabably also has Triple H's best singles non-gimmick match at No Mercy 2008 too. He of course is known for the wild risks he would take but, he's even fun to watch outside of that.

Watched Janos Vadkerti vs Roland Daumal and Modesto Aledo vs. Teddy Boy. Liked Janos Vadkerti vs Roland Daumal. I think it was good. Modesto Aledo vs. Teddy Boy is proabably my favorite French Catch I have seen so far, really like how Teddy Boy got progressively angrier. It still has the problem that I feel when I have watched French Catch where once the wrestlers get up oftentimes it feels like their health bar is reset and the matches don't have build up to finishes I'm used to. Something I am wondering is with French Catch should I go in with unique expectations. For example watching someone can enjoy a Shawn Micheals and Young Bucks match but, its important to keep in mind with Shawn Micheals a superkick is the biggest move ever but, with the Young Bucks its a move to wear down down their opponents to lead to bigger moves and they'll do like 8 in a match. Doesn't make either less great but, it's a thing to keep in mind.