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  1. Dav'oh

    The Cancellation of Jim Cornette

    I was reading recently that wrestlers signed to the Gold Dust Trio would spend their time at Sandow's private ring, practicing routines. It's always been the backbone of the sport, it seems.
  2. I think people missed the mark outing Joey Ryan and David Starr. They should've been outing Joseph Meeham and Max Barsky, because it's Meeham and Barsky and Macahren et al. that the wider community needs to be informed about and protected from. It's like outing Cliff Huxtable instead of Bill Cosby
  3. Dav'oh

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    Who is Low-Ki screaming at, exactly? It reads uncannily like one of my teenage angst-and-anger poems, where I'd scream at the world and think the world gave a shit. *memo Mr. Low-Ki: your life-long anger is worse for your immune system than covid-19 would be. All your cardio and nutrition won't counter-balance the years that negativity and rage take off your life. 40 years old and no smile-lines....
  4. I saw, over many stays over many years, lots of people in rehab who were there for the wrong reasons. People "sending" other people to rehab is an exercise in time-wasting, whether it's mum and dad, your missus or your employer (all of whom are flattering/deluding themselves if they think they can do or say anything to get someone clean.) Havoc also reminds me of another group of "wrong reasons" people - those that were only in rehab so they could tell the magistrate they'd been to rehab, hoping for a reduced sentence. (One rehab I went to was like the remand yard.) And finally, maybe, maybe, 1% of people who go to rehab for substance abuse are "one-and-dones", for want of a better term, which I don't think AEW understands. You don't just sit around for 28 days and then walk out cured; it's generally a very long process which, for some people, continues for their whole lives. Detox and rehab aren't cures. (And now I'm thinking "in vino veritas" so Havoc probably needs to work on bigger behavioural issues than just substance abuse...)
  5. Dav'oh

    The Cancellation of Jim Cornette

    I agree 100%. I think there's a lot of "hating on women is bad, unless I choose the woman" seeping through.
  6. Dav'oh

    The Cancellation of Jim Cornette

    He's also relevant to this thread and thus to everyone who has posted. He's clearly relevant to his hate-listeners, he's relevant to the news sites, he's relevant to advertisers. He's relevant to impartial listeners who want to hear old-school stories. I'm sure there's others.
  7. Dav'oh

    Backlash 2020 - The one with the GREATEST MATCH EVER

    I kept getting distracted by the audience doubling as catalogue models for WWE Shop dot com. Every one of them in a brand-spanking (pun unintended) new t-shirt of another wrestler.
  8. Dav'oh


    He wrote about it in Fighting Spirit Magazine, if memory serves me right. It was that in seven years, the people who had been watching would have moved on, and a new group of fans would come in who had never seen the angle before. And those that did stick around would likely have forgotten a lot of what they saw.
  9. All this love and praise for Bayley and Sasha makes me want to see a Gordy List or similar for each of them... I can understand if people like them; I don't see how anyone could be impressed by them as wrestlers or characters, especially given how...severe...the analysis of wrestlers often is here at PWO.
  10. Dav'oh

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    "Choshu appeared in a tag match for the urgent cicada...A single match with Inoki was realized with an unconvincing appeal of Choshu, but Choshu had already digested one game and Inoki thoroughly attacked Choshu's injured face and it was indigestion. It ends." (How Google's page translation rendered Asahi-net's account of the build to Inoki-Vader).
  11. Dav'oh

    Wrestling before or after 1996?

    I want to know what happens next. I have to turn the next page in this book I've been reading since I was nine. Initially, I thought this was an easy question - pre 1996, for sure. But then I realised that as much as I love history, wrestling to me has always really been about what happens next. What happens next in a match or a sequence within a match; what happens next in an angle or feud; what happens in the next match or show; what happens next to AEW or NJPW or WWE in covid times; what happens next to Ric Flair - that sort of stuff. So, yeah, I can say that I prefer the earlier product of my youth (and stuff that predates me), but I'm compelled to follow it today and every tomorrow, 'cos I wanna know whodunnit, so to speak.
  12. Dav'oh

    Matches That Changed Wrestling

    That's why I thought Lewis/Stecher might get a gig. Five and a half hours of Lewis "running away" and "on the defensive" might have been the straw that broke shootfighting's back. And I thought Misawa's death would have changed bell-to-bell business, but I guess wrestlers will always be whores for a pop, and their ego's are purpose-built for one-upmanship.
  13. Dav'oh

    Matches That Changed Wrestling

    Really surprised the five-and-a-half-hour Ed Lewis vs Joe Stecher draw from 1916 hasn't been mentioned. Maybe it was too obvious? "Slambang" wrestling was already around, but this "terrible" match gave a major boost to the transition from "real" to "worked" (read: from "deathly dull" to "colourful"). That's my limited understanding, anyway. I'm happy to be wrong. MTV and WWF combining for The War to Settle the Score (Feb 19, 1985) laid the groundwork for Wrestlemania, and made wrestling "cool" and mainstream for a bit, and launched everything since. I'd like people's thoughts on the one match that perhaps should have changed wrestling: June 13, 2009, Mitsuharu Misawa's last match. Would I be right in saying it, unfortunately, didn't change diddly-squat?
  14. Dav'oh

    Dark Side of the Ring: Viceland docu-series

    I'd argue they wanted to be conned. I can't remember where I read it, but wrestling is now: Promoters/wrestlers (to fans): We know you're "smart". We know you "know how it's done". But we're still going to trick you. Fans: Go ahead. Maybe we like being tricked.
  15. Dav'oh

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    I see what you did there... Is Baba the really deep-voiced, mumble-mouthed, semi-comatose commentator I occasionally hear on AJPW matches? Whoever it is, he never gets mentioned in "Worst Commentator" discussions. Is that just out of respect, or are his comments so insightful/witty/interesting that how he says it is irrelevant. Because I can't imagine hearing him in his native tongue would make him any better, otherwise.