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75% for Kawada. 72% for Tanahashi! Last time no one in the top 20 appeared on less than 80% of ballots I assume that there's a decent sized chunk of voters who have never watched anything other than the big modern US promotions.

There was talk on here before the results started to drop of Tenryu being a top 3 candidate. Based on how people voted for older Japanese stars I can't see Tenryu being on over 75% of ballots. So even with an average placing on those ballots of say #15, his ceiling would be around 30-31k (481 x 0.75 x 85 = 30663.75). A wrestler on 90% of ballots would only need to be in the top 25 to comfortably beat this (481 x 0.9 x 75 = 32467.5). So I think you'll see Flair, Funk, Bryan, Kobashi, Misawa, Rey, Austin and maybe Tanahashi ahead of him.

Vader, consistency be thy name.

It's certainly a great showcase. If the aim is eyeballs on WoS I'd also suggest something featuring recognisable names. Finlay, Sayama, Owen etc.

Liger only being on 72% of ballots was an eye-opener. I assumed he'd be a near consensus pick.

Nice to see Chin and Chigs get more recognition this time round. Had them at 12 and 21 respectively.

Pleased to see Onita place at 50. Maybe the best phoenix from the flames wrestler in history. Also maybe the best at working around his physical limitations.

So we have Chigusa over Dump, Volk over Tamura, Austin over Rock, Inoki over Baba. Bret over Shawn? Stinger over Flair? Bull over Aja?

Tamura is the third of my top 10 to fall. Interesting to see his placement remain so steady despite the changing voter base.

Surprised KENTA finished so highly given his career arc.

The final list is lovely and a massive thanks to Grimmas and everyone involved. That said, the real purpose of the project is to discuss what we love and discover new stuff. I don't think Frank Shamrock is a top 100 wrestler of all time. Ditto Ted DiBiase, Yuki Ishikawa, Lulu Pencil and Buddy Rose, but I've loved hearing people's views on why they do. I don't see how not having nominations threads would help this. Surely we want to focus on ways to encourage participation in the discussion process rather than the voting.

I'll go with Windham, Eaton, Rose, KENTA, Yoshida and Ki.

Based on when the voters started watching wrestling, 2010s New Japan would mean a lot to a lot of voters, so I reckon Shinsuke stays. Wouldn't be surprised to see Greg Valentine, Jim Breaks and Buddy Rose out the top 100.

Tenzan finishing so high is a mad one. Once we were into the 400s I just assumed he got zero votes.

Shocked that I was the high vote on Sano.

Definitely agree with the culture element. I'm from the North West of England where you'd find a Jim Breaks or Brian Maxine type in every pub. Watching WoS with Brits, the harder bit to grasp is the differences in logic between it and most US or Japanese wrestling. For example the way wrestlers flip and roll to "go with the hold", or generally taking a bump off the turnbuckle rather than sticking to the corner. I think this is the biggest reason it struggles to garner a stronger following.

It's a tough sell. Looks drab and the pro wrestling physics feels jarring until one gets used to it.

Sad seeing Clive Myers so low at 481. Should have voted for him.

Is the project based on 'in-ring footage' or just 'footage'? If it's the latter, I can definitely see a case.

Tamon Honda only receiving 4 votes - from 8% to <1% of ballots - feels the most sign of the times result yet.

I was the lone Sid Cooper vote. Regal's childhood favourite wrestler. Surprised to see Konnan and Sakaguchi so low. Figured they had a bigger niche.

A top-tier shithouse. Nominated him, then didn't vote for him. Glad someone else did.

I like the formal nominations. Surely the ultimate point of this is to share and discuss wrestlers. Without nominations we don't get that.

Of the pillars, Kobashi will be comfortably the top ranked.

Always dug the kickpads no shoes look. Rewatched some of Yamamoto matches vs Han and regret not seriously considering him for my list. Also that I had Volk too low.