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I sort of had the same issues with this as I had with the other 30-minute tag draw at Havoc. Thirty minutes of my-turn/your-turn wrestling can be a little much to take. The only strong sense of storyline I got was towards the AJPW-style ending stretch, and admittedly it was pretty awesome, with Hasegawa throwing great suplexes and Yamada constantly having to kick out because Debbie keeps cutting Toyota off from making the save. That had a strong Jumbo & Taue vs. Kobashi & Kikuchi vibe to it. And everything before that was really well-executed--I just still had trouble getting emotionally invested in who won or lost.
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Paul E. has gone from taking out Sting and Ricky Steamboat to trying to take out Madusa and Erik Watts.
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[1992-10-31-WCW-Saturday Night] Interview: Jake Roberts
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Same premise as Jake's promos in response to the WWF ban the previous year. But what a great response it is. Jake had fun DDT'ing Sting on the chair, but he plans to drop him on the concrete floor. I don't know what this feud would have still had to offer in the ring, but there was promise in Jake aligning with guys like Vader and using them as surrogates to take Sting out for him.- 6 replies
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Erik was obviously a good athlete but he didn't look like one or really wrestle like one, and perception is reality in wrestling. All the people in that Bleacher Report list had better looks than Watts.
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[1992-10-31-WCW-Saturday Night] King of Cable feature
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
I always thought this was such a dippy premise for a tournament. Rick Rude is now sans mustache. Sadly we don't get a Tony Atlas promo. If only we'd known of 1990 before this set was made...- 7 replies
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[1992-10-31-SMW-TV] Down and Dirty: Heavenly Bodies & Jim Cornette
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
I'm trying to decide if the Spin Doctors reference by Cornette (he's got a pocket full of kryptonite for the R'nR) is genuinely hip or not for 1992.- 7 replies
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We get a bunch of babyfaces out as we get the mother of all church-bulletin promos from Lawler & co. Yes, this is a remarkably silent crowd for a 6-man main event. Lawler and Gilbert fulfill their promise for "barbecued dog" and take out the King Killer. He gets unmasked afterward but the Moondogs return to do a number on the babyfaces.
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[1992-10-31-WWF-Superstars] Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
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[1992-10-31-WWF-Superstars] Interview: Ric Flair & Razor Ramon
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Vince brings up the "rumors" of Flair's inner-ear problems, which Perfect denies. That's an odd tack. I really hated how they junked the traditional Survivor Series format for this card, though I guess it's indicative of the lack of roster depth in comparison to years past. -
[1992-10-31-WWF-Superstars] Money Inc. vs Natural Disasters
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
The Nasty Boys, upset over not getting this title shot, laid out Money Inc. before the match started. The Disasters dominated this but Headshrinker interference put Money Inc. back on top. Odd finish as Earthquake never makes the hot tag after working FIP, and simply goes down to the Million-Dollar Dream to give the tag belts back to Money Inc. -
Han clobbers Maeda before the bell in an unexpected move and this has you thinking it's going to be a balls-to-the-wall, desperation sprint. But no, after that Maeda gets up and they have a typical match. Han does some great takedowns and the finish is a clever way to keep Han strong--Maeda unleashes a huge high kick that Han takes a tree-falling-in-the-woods bump for (with a great camera angle on it) and the ref instantly stops the match. But Han pops right back up, suggesting the referee may have called it early. Still...pre-match attack plus controversial early-stoppage finish adds up to a match that would have been much more effective as a brisk 10-minute bout instead of the marathon we got.
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[1992-10-25-WCW-Halloween Havoc] Sting vs Jake Roberts (Coal Miners Glove)
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
The action that we see is actually better than I expected given this match's reputation, but the coal miner's glove certainly wasn't much of a factor. Jake then has to do a recreation of Bela Lugosi fighting the octopus in Ed Wood, forcing a snake that may or may not even be alive to "bite" him.- 15 replies
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[1992-10-25-WCW-Halloween Havoc] Paul E. Dangerously and Madusa
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Surprised Paul E. didn't babyface himself in front of that Philly crowd with that promo. Madusa unleashing the big kick is one of the markout moments of the year. Then Paul screams "COME ON, BITCH" over the mic which must have raised a number of eyebrows in 1992.- 10 replies
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This is a strong match that was just too long for its own good. I know the Gordy no-show or firing or whatever threw everybody off, but the draw simply wasn't necessary once he was out, and putting yet another 30-minute draw in a PPV tag title match was a little much. I actually liked the IDEA of the false finish, because I like it when tags and legal men are accounted for and the concept in general is respected. But the execution was pretty lousy on all fronts. On the plus side, this was probably Dustin's most complete performance to date--he matches up well trading shots with Doc and he works a strong FIP segment even if it goes a little long. All four guys came to play but Dustin and Austin were clearly working ahead of their partners here. Dustin and Doc worked great together, to the point where now I want to see a singles match between the two.
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[1992-10-25-WCW-Halloween Havoc] Ricky Steamboat vs Brian Pillman
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
This took a bit to get going but it ended up pretty decent. I am struck by how long it's taking for Pillman to really get working heel down. I get that it was new to him, but I always thought, for whatever reason, of Pillman as having a great mind for the business--may not be fair, but I thought he'd adapt quicker. As an undersized heel he probably could have stood to add some more Memphis stooging spots to his arsenal to go along with stuff like faking the knee injury. (The PeteF of ten years ago is aghast that I would suggest that instead of doing more moves.) This is one of the first times I've seen the fish-out-of-water spot actually end in a pinfall.- 8 replies
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It's covered in the 1990 Yearbook section, I think in May. Basically the Horsemen cut promos on Rocky King and the Junkyard Dog talking about how they didn't like having to "associate with their kind" and how they were going to show JYD "what we do to people like you back in Minnesota." That actually makes it sound tamer than it was--Flair did just about everything short of throwing out racial slurs (other than maybe "boy," which is bad enough).
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Decent match, but a lot better when the babyfaces are on offense. Pillman still seems to be iffy on working heel.
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[1992-10-24-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/Nikita Koloff
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Nearing the end of the line for Nikita here.- 5 replies
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[1992-10-24-WCW-Saturday Night] Music Video: Van Hammer
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Footage from the '91 video with added shots of Hammer at a lake and riding a motorcycle and walking through some pubescent fans. One of the females calls out his name, so he turns around and invites...two boys to come with him. WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT? Why does this guy still have a job?- 10 replies
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[1992-10-24-SMW-TV] Rock & Roll Express vs Heavenly Bodies
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
I think this is a legal precedent that goes back to Rousimoff v. Piper, when Andre got carried off during a tag match and then came back, and the match resulted in a DQ. Killer Kyle helps the Bodies overwhelm Gibson & Morton, and the Bodies go to work on Gibson's hand ("so he can never talk to his mother again!") Good match and angle even if the match ending didn't make the greatest sense. Have Gibson come in swinging a chair or something.- 9 replies
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Tracey laments the corporate, non-wrestling people at Turner who wanted the Southern Boys to drop the non-flashy redneck gear in favor of shiny cowboy gear. This rambles a bit, but it's an effective way of hitting the reset button on Smothers' heel turn.
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[1992-10-24-USWA-TV] The Moondogs and Jerry Lawler and Eddie Gilbert
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
This would be the second King Killer, I believe--the first was Jerry Lawler in disguise. Eddie Gilbert makes a surprise run-in alongside Lawler and Jarrett to run the Moondogs off after a squash. I think this is yet another return to the territory for Gilbert after walking out. Eddie & Doug seem like fresh opponents for the 'dogs, as it's been awhile since Lawler has been in the Unified title picture. -
[1992-10-24-USWA-TV] Interview: Jerry Lawler & Jeff Jarrett
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Doug Gilbert is put out of action courtesy of the Moondogs in Kennett, Mo. Looks like the JYD is gone as well. Todd Champion has undergone quite the transformation.