PeteF3
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USWA Texas segment of the year, hands down. Borne is a fucking...well, Maniac here, dragging what is by far the best post-amputation match out of Kerry that I've seen. I love the desperation escapes of the clawhold, going to the eyes and resorting to low blows. Then we brawl to a DCOR that heads outside into the parking lot and a frigging insane brawl on a pickup truck, which includes Borne getting bodyslammed onto the hood and some crazy swings with a giant 2x4 and a crowbar. John Brazille gets nailed by Kerry and eventually cuts the camera off and says something about a suspension, as Jeff Jarrett and Chris Adams drag Kerry away from killing Matt. I guess the former World Class was *really* under the radar nationally at this point, because I agree on not knowing why this segment isn't more famous. Of note: Pringle subtly heels on Kerry at the beginning of this match, blaming Von Erich for ruining the friendship by not taking Borne on the first time.
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I actually like the fact that Gossett's sheer size makes him formidable even though he's not a wrestler. Plus he needed Jarrett and Travis immobilized for every move he did. The match itself seemed a little rushed, especially at the ending, but the action before that was all good. I like Tatum's emo crying act but sometimes it's good to see him tone that down as he does here. Anthony and Jarrett is a singles match that needed to happen. -
I didn't quite see as much hatred except for a bit of scuffling between falls and with the energy Satanico threw into his armbar takedowns, as this was pretty much wrestled on the level. The first fall finish is pretty spectacular and the third with its double-pin screwjob leaves you wanting more instead of feeling screwed over.
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This time Lawler is focused on the fans for betraying him in favor of Valiant and aims to prove them wrong, rather than talking about what a talentless moron his opponent is.
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Well, I didn't post for the hell of it.
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Adams' body should have just simply shut the effects of the tear gas down. This is an absolutely loaded TV program, and I'm assuming May sweeps is making its presence felt here as well. "FEE, FI, FO, FUM! I SMELL THE BLOOD OF AN ENGLISHMAN!"
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Dundee handcuffs Tatum to the rope and basically coerces him into a Southern title shot by making out with Tessa. Tatum is perhaps the most gloriously shameless wrestler who ever lived--virtually his every move is made with the intent of making himself look like a buffoon. He even takes a bump trying to go after Dundee without knowing he's been cuffed. Sexually assaulting a heel valet to the approval of the crowd and announcers? That's territory wrestling for you.
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Pretty good segment with Kerry being rather transpicuous by his standards.
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Lawler with a few more choice words for the Sportatorium, the city of Dallas, and Kerry Von Erich's "retarded" fans. He promises yet another victory in his ongoing series with Kerry.
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Brock Lesnar could charitably be described as a football washout and I don't think there are many who have trouble accepting that he could still kick most football player's asses anyway. Football, fighting, and wrestling all require different skill sets and I think most fans who know at least a little about all 3 will understand that. I think this is getting close to degrading Michael Jordan's accomplishments as a basketball player because he washed out in baseball.
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I dunno--I think Ross thought, whether he executed well or not, that he was getting Rico over as a tough guy (minus the child part). Ross used to heavily play up Adrian Street's credentials as well--"Underneath that bowed blond hair is a pair of cauliflower ears!" Rico was also well into the era of getting screamed at through the headset, so I'd also be wary of laying too much of it at Ross' feet at all.
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Borne is incredible here--perfectly justified in his frustration until he just goes too far and cheap-shots Chris and puts a pretty quick, nasty beatdown on him. "MAYBE THAT'LL GET HIM TO FIGHT!" Poor Chris...Matt just totally eviscerated him on the mic in Lawler-esque fashion. Did anyone ever see Chris Von Erich and Dawna in the same place at the same time?
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Fare thee well, Marc. His last couple of years in World Class established him, to me, as one of the territorial days' most underrated announcers. Not Lance Russell...but not terribly far behind, either. And goodness, even during his farewell he's working to get the current angles and matches over. A figure of legitimate professionalism in a promotion that often lacked it. Lowrance has supposedly said that he got more learning experience and preparation for preaching through wrestling announcing than he did in seminary. Without wanting to really go down that road at all, I can definitely understand that viewpoint.
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Hayes accuses the Rock 'n Roll Express of being "incorrigible young punks," which sounds more like something Mr. Backlund would say rather than a true rock 'n roll band. Hayes continues to threaten them until bailing out upon seeing the R'nRs storm the ring with belts. Cornette is absolutely priceless here trying to make nice with Ricky & Robert.
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Great stuff from everyone. Arn shits on RoboCop, calling him a "tin man."
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Fun spotfest of a match in front of a hot crowd followed by a killer post-match. BARRY WINDHAM shows up out of nowhere to take out Sting and the Luger beatdown is on. Sting gets dragged into the ring and Flair goes to town on his knee--pretty wild to see Sting getting bumped around like this in his condition. As Flair is about to figure-four Sting and render him unable to walk, a mass of babyfaces storm the ring, but the damage appears to be done. Windham is an instant breath of fresh air to the Horsemen group.
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I wonder if Hogan thought this program was ruined because of Rude having the audacity to mention beating the Warrior before. Blah blah normals blah blah memories blah blah blah.
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The big draw here seems to be the ex-stablemates MS-1 and Satanico matching off, despite the best efforts of MS-1 to avoid such a match-up. Their stuff is pretty much gold, however. El Dandy creams Atlantis with two back-to-back miscommunication spots, including inadvertently backdropping Charles to the floor onto him. Tensions mount between the technicos after the match. Atlantis sort of comes off as a dick here--clearly both of Dandy's moves were accidents and the team won anyway.
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Permanently branded into my memory banks, it is. Thanks, JR. Did we add that to the 1990 Ross drinking game?
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Into the 1970's, NFL salaries tended to lag behind baseball's. An average player's salary was in the neighborhood of $56,000. Joe Namath's $100,000+ was considered a superstar's salary. Baseball also adopted free agency about a full decade-plus before the NFL which drove the salaries of that sport up higher, quicker. Making more money in territorial wrestling than in pro football wasn't out of the question at all, at least up until around the '82 strike. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that were the case for Wahoo McDaniel and Ernie Ladd, who had legitimate pro careers of decent length and during the AFL-NFL era to boot (pro football's equivalent to the Monday Night Wars, as a point of reference). I don't generally have an issue with pushing strong college careers (like Simmons) or even fringe NFL careers (Goldberg). I think even a cup of coffee in the NFL adds a legitimacy to a guy, especially if they're like most wrestlers and were linemen or linebackers. Now, Jim Ross once talked up Tracey Smothers' quarterback career at "one of the great NAIA programs," Carson-Newman--that's taking things too far to the point of absurdity and is just an excuse for JR to blither. And for the record, pushing Jim Duggan as the SMU "wedge buster" on kickoffs is still about the best ever use of football credentials to get a wrestler over. It was supposedly where he perfected the flying spear and wedge-buster is the craziest, most dangerous role a football player could have--perfectly befitting a tough, unhinged guy like Duggan and something that the fans of the Mid-South would inherently know.
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Future Global announcer Craig Johnson has taken over for Lowrance (apparently after an unsuccessful bid to bring back Bill Mercer) and Percy Pringle is now the color man. I don't think I've ever seen Tessa before. But she's solidly hotter than Jeannie. Tatum does his usual stooge-and-cry spots and seems to blame Tessa for Dundee ever gaining the advantage, and orders her to stay in one spot in the corner. Later Tessa refuses to give up her purse and it almost costs Tatum a win. After Tony Falk gets bumped, Tatum manages to wrest the purse from her and knock Dundee out with it to keep his Southern title as Tessa flees for the locker room. Anxious to see where this storyline goes. Tatum physically accosting Tessa looked legitimately uncomfortable, like a real domestic incident. Not a criticism (yet), just an observation.
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Holy. Shit. Kid is apparently 18 years old here. I was going in expecting to see an interesting time capsule and an early '90s-style indy spotfest. And yeah, these are clearly guys who have studied their Japanese juniors and maybe their lucha. But this is a fucking FIGHT from the opening bell. The dives are the work of two guys who hate each other and are willing to sacrifice themselves to hurt the other one, instead of the work of guys trying to make things look pretty. The match layout is fantastic--I dunno if these guys worked this out beforehand Savage-style or if they called it in the ring, but Kid may have missed his calling as a Pat Patterson type in either case. No my turn/your turn shit--the heel Kid takes things to the hardcore level first and has some great cut-offs when Lynn appears to spring back on offense. We get moves countered when attempted a second time later in the match, some hot near falls, and a great finish with Lynn coming up with a counter to Kid's previous countermove, not to mention a bulldog that looks like it absolutely killed the Kid. Kid goes nuts after the match and brutalizes Lynn with a chair and then pours beer on him for good measure. This is everything a stereotypical indy spotfest today is not. The moves all made sense, the transitions all made sense, everything was EXECUTED superbly which is doubly amazing considering both guys' experience. There are definitely traces of modern indy 2.9 wrestling, but this is very much an old-style territory match in just about every way except that the moves are more advanced. Yeah, this is absolutely a legit MOTYC.
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This is the "George Washington hairdo" portion of Flair's career I've heard tell so much about. Flair promises to make Pillman an example as he returns to his hometown and also calls out Larry Zbyszko. I believe this was to lead to a unification match or at least a champion vs. champion match until Jim Herd decided that he didn't want to acknowledge another World title on WCW programming.
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[1990-04-28-WWF-Saturday Night's Main Event] Bobby Heenan and Ultimate Warrior
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
Also: I guess with this being Warrior's first title defense they wanted to show him as a decisive victor, but this really could have used a Rick Rude run-in and beatdown. I know I made this point earlier but it would be so much more effective in building up Rude than lifting weights. -
[1990-04-29-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Jake Roberts
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
So apparently this feud begins with Bad News getting a rubber snake and continues with Jake out to defend the honor of Mean Gene Okerlund. Enthralling. I think one big problem is Bad News was always positioned very strongly even when up against Savage and Hogan as a guy who wasn't afraid of anything and didn't back down from anybody, and then they shoot their wad right off the bat by showing him practically having a coronary at the sight of a snake. Why not milk the "is he or isn't he afraid?" factor a little more and pay it off later? This is a good promo by Jake but I don't recall this feud getting appreciably better. Thankfully Jake would have a much more compelling storyline to come after this.