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[1990-03-30-USWA Texas] Jeff Jarrett & Bill Dundee vs Robert Fuller & Brian Lee
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Best USWA Texas bout yet. Surprisingly Lee works the bulk of this and looks like a perfectly acceptable wrestler--clearly this was the better role for him than lead babyface of SMW. Dundee gets worked over before tagging in Jarrett, who dodges a loaded boot from Fuller that hits Lee, costing the Stud Stable the match. Several weeks after their breakup in Memphis, they repeat the angle for Texas and Lee eventually runs Fuller off.- 10 replies
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[1990-03-24-NWA-World Championship Wrestling] Interview: Sting
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Sting goes through physical rehab as well as mental rehab: throwing darts at a picture of Flair on the wall. Sting agrees with Flair's declarations that he won't be the same Sting...he'll be meaner, stronger, and better. Good promo from an inconsistent promo man. -
Very good match but I think the sheer one-sidedness in favor of Morton holds this back from being great. It was almost worked backwards with the heel Flair doing hope spots and then constantly getting cut off by Ricky. It was interesting as a role reversal but still too jarring for me. That said, the energy level was great throughout and Morton did look great taking advantage of a rare opportunity to work on top.
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I don't know if that's quite the case. - I've never known Flair to use a chain or other foreign object throughout the match the way Lawler has typically done. Flair busted out foreign objects all the time, but it was almost exclusively for the finish only. (The only exception I can think of is WM8, but that was a near-fall false finish). There's a difference between using brass knucks as a last-ditch desperation hail mary pass and having to use them to gain or maintain any kind of advantage at all. - Lawler doesn't seem to have any offensive weapon in his arsenal that looms over the match the way Flair's figure four does. For all the shit Flair pulled to kill his own finisher, the threat of Flair going to town on an opponent's knee and figure-four-ing him until he screamed for mercy persisted. I don't think anyone bought the flying fistdrop as a killer finisher and the piledriver isn't pushed in USWA TX half as hard as Paul Orndorff's version was in the WWF. You could lay that fault at the hands of the bookers and announcers but I know for a fact that Marc Lowrance knew how to get the piledriver over as a killer move. - I'm entertained by Ronald P. Gossett IV and it's not like his alliance with Lawler was particularly long-lived, but talk about a guy who screams "mid/undercard manager." He was an entertaining joke character, but still a joke. It's roughly akin to Flair aligning himself with Frenchy Martin. - Flair did more to put his opponents over outside the ring than Lawler--this is a criticism I have of Lawler as a heel announcer as well. He gets dangerously close to burying his opponents at times. Entertainingly so, but in the long run claiming guys like Jarrett and Dundee and Cobra and Kerry all had zero talent doesn't really do much to get anybody in the promotion over. Lawler's stubborn steadfast refusal to EVER give the babyface credit for anything wore very thin with me when he was announcing and while I don't consider him bad, it's enough for me to put him squarely behind Heenan, Ventura, and Cornette--and now I'm seeing that problem date back before he was doing full-time commentary. Flair expresses confidence that he's better than his opponent. Lawler expresses confidence that his opponent is a no-talent joke. I love Lawler and I love Flair, and it's not like Flair doesn't do things that grate on me. But, I don't think they're perfectly in sync with what Lawler does that grates on me.
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[1990-01-20-WWF-Superstars] Jake Roberts and Ted DiBiase
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in January 1990
I picked up on the "black guy = scared of snakes" vibe too, but in the WWF EVERY heel was afraid of snakes. The fact that DiBiase had Virgil in charge of retrieving the belt per se meant that he was included in that category.- 16 replies
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[1990-03-24-NWA-Worldwide] Interview: Ole Anderson & Minnesota Wrecking Crew II
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Good attempt to save an absurdly underwhelming payoff to Ole's "master plan" to take care of the Steiners. The era of masked tag teams was over with by this point and the Crew II were quickly going from putting over the Steiners to putting over Pillman & Zenk.- 11 replies
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[1990-03-24-WWF-Superstars] Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior promos
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
This time Warrior goes first and Hogan gets a chance to respond. Hogan raises a good point with people getting sick of the Warrior's "Frankenstein talk" and blithering about injecting with poison. We get a callback to the infamous THIS IS WHERE THE POWER LIES promo. Both men basically promise to assimilate each other's fanbases. -
[1990-03-24-WWF-Superstars] Jesse Ventura picks a winner
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Super hot start as an Estrada sneak attack backfires and he takes a requisitely loony bump over the turnbuckles to the floor, and Satanico follows with a nasty dive that more or less clinches the first fall, as a nudo gets the submission. Estrada comes back to nearly break his own neck doing a somersault plancha, but is able to beat the count back in to even things up. Total fucking war of attrition follows, with Estrada maintaining control but seemingly botching every chance he has to put Satanico away for good. In the end the vet just has too many counters in his holster and gets in a backslide when he needed it to score the 3. Estrada looks strong as it appeared that one more big move would put Satanico down, but it never came. Definite MOTYC, which came through even though I was interrupted between falls for about 9 hours.
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The first two falls are basically perfunctory appetizers to get us to the meat of the match, which is when the big guns are broken out in the third fall. It's officially technico v. technico but Dandy is working a much rougher style, and Dr. Morales points out that la diferencia es Azteca está luchando para el publico, y El Dandy está luchando para el--wrestling for himself. Azteca has a fantastic counter to a plancha suicida by bringing his knee up, which hurts his own knee but incapacitates El Dandy. This rather suddenly goes to either a time limit draw or a double countout, which has everybody upset. Dandy sucker punches Azteca after the match and then mocks him, acting like he just gave him a shove. The announcers discuss a possible hair vs. mask match to settle. Looking forward to it.
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[1990-03-23-USWA Texas] Steve Austin vs Chris Adams (No Referee in the Ring)
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Austin is still tentative at points during this, but this does have a nice finish with a sense of impending doom as Austin comes towards Adams with the chair, with Adams countering at the last second. Adams then hits a DDT on the chair, fights off Sheik Braddock and Jeff Gaylord, and gets the pin. Devastation Inc. beatdown follows until Matt Borne makes the save. Austin may be a first in that his literal entire career is more or less preserved on tape.- 10 replies
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[1990-03-23-NWA-Power Hour] Eddie Gilbert vs Cactus Jack
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Cactus isn't afraid to sit in a chinlock for awhile and the draw was telegraphed from the first time limit announcement. I didn't see this as one of Cactus' "best" but it was one of his better singles matches to this point, at least. Ross pointing out Gilbert's broken neck was a great way to justify the use of the chinlock, even if it was a post-hoc explanation, and we do get a few trademark Cactus bumps and a wrinkle I'd never seen before with a dropkick off the ring apron. Good closing stretch at least until the botched time announcements at the end.- 11 replies
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[1990-03-21-USWA-Evansville TV] Robert Fuller local promo
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Fuller with strong words for the state of Indiana while stressing that SYLVIA IS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE PROBLEM.- 9 replies
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[1990-03-30-USWA Texas] Jimmy Valiant vs Billy Joe Travis
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Somehow my disc jumped to this chapter when I put it in. Oh well, nothing too out of place. Marc Lowrance faints off of a Jimmy Valiant kiss and I'm surprised he was allowed to enter seminary in Texas after that. All clowning with Travis trying outdo Valiant at everything from his entrance to his counters, and failing each time. Travis comes back with some nice punches, infinitely better-looking than the Boogie Woogie Man's offense, but whiffs on a flying elbow. Valiant is just getting his comeback started when Terry Garvin interferes for the DQ.- 16 replies
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Yeah, where do the sudden close-ups come from? Bandana-cam? Warrior is once again sunk by his complete inability to come off as human. Hogan is actually able to tone things down for the office setting, while Warrior just looks more ridiculous in facepaint and street clothes and still blithering about normals, nothingness, two becoming one, leaders, followers, and Hokogan.
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USWA, both cities = the Republican party of pro wrestling. If you're not white, to hell with you. Music video follows which is clearly some years old and repeats stuff from the "Gypsies on Parade" video, but with some great action.
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[1990-03-24-USWA-Championship Sports] Eric Embry and Devastation Inc.
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Medicine Man is Chris Youngblood, apparently. I figured as much. He, Gary Young, and Akbar put a beatdown on Eric Embry and Percy Pringle, with Pringle juicing. Akbar cuts a promo afterward challenging Embry to a tag match--Embry & Percy vs. Akbar & Young. Embry runs in on a Young squash, and temporarily fights off both Young and Akbar before the numbers get to him, but Percy Pringle does a run-in whipping everybody with his boot. Fired-up babyface promo follows. I'm still not a great fan of Skandor Akbar but Pringle continues to shine in the tough, thankless role of babyface manager, which is never easy to pull off. Did the teased Embry/Adams feud just die on the vine by this point?- 10 replies
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Routine squash though Panzer attempts some nice stuff, not all of it successfully. Pillman and Zeaman reclaim their belts afterward. $1,000 a day sounds like pocket change for Jim Cornette's mama.
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[1990-03-19-WWF-MSG, NY] Ultimate Warrior vs Mr Perfect
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Perfect's bumps are big but not too ridiculous here. This is safely on the line of bumping to make the opponent look good and not bumping to draw attention to oneself, which would be understandable when facing a guy like the Warrior. This is much better with Perfect on top and Warrior underneath, at least until the chinlock--Warrior busting out the sunset flip was a pleasant surprise. The megapush for the Warrior is on as he beats Perfect down and wins decisively going into WM6. This is definitely a case of Perfect dragging something average-ish out of a Warrior who did him few favors, and speaks well for him as a worker in the WWF when my opinion of Mr. P had been reaching a nadir as of late. -
Well, it wasn't a great match, but from my view that can be placed about 90% on Martel. Bret had some good counterwrestling stuff in the opening but when the match stalls when the heel goes on offense, I tend to put that on the heel. And Martel was more interested in clowning and showboating than in doing a whole lot when in control. He does sell for Bret's offense quite well, though. Crowd is hot for a stretch run of near-falls until both guys do the standard brawling outside the ring AND we get a time limit draw for a sort of double-screwjob. I don't quite get the protection of Bret here. Good match by WWF mid-card standards. I can't fault a whole lot of anything in what Bret did.
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Really, no one in this match can be accused of taking the night off, as both DCs bump pretty huge, especially Bloom going absolutely balls-out in the opening. Peterson and Wilkes aren't great but they at least work hard. The Von Raschke stuff is annoying as hell, but outside of a few spots he doesn't overshadow the match too much. All action with a fun finishing stretch of reversals and reversals of reversals with Tully picking up the victory. Blanchard appeared to be as good as he ever was here.
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Sherri actually outdoes Savage here. Man, the Big Two LOVED making their Leona Helmsley references in the first part of 1990. I can't get across just how much I hated this program at the time. I hated Sapphire, I was sick of Dusty, and I thought it was a waste of Savage. And to top it off, it lasted way past its sell-by date--we'll see if there's any reason, looking back, why this feud had to be extended all the way until SummerSlam.
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You can't have all these Atlas promos and not provide at least a token match, regardless of quality. Onita works a poor man's Muta gimmick and this ends in a predictable screw finish. The match is bad, but not offensively so--the two announcers constantly talking over each other is easily the most annoying part of this.
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The cool, calm, and collected Tony Atlas is gone, replaced by a paranoid maniac who's being forced into the ring with the "Frontier Martial Arts expert" and most dangerous man in wrestling. Despite not knowing his name this is a really effective way by Atlas of getting Onita over.
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[1990-03-17-WWF-Superstars] Brother Love: Heenan Family
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Heenan dispenses with the jokes and simply threatens to sic his "problem solvers" on Demolition. Andre laughs and reassures Bobby that it's "only a SMALL problem."