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Routine squash though Panzer attempts some nice stuff, not all of it successfully. Pillman and Zeaman reclaim their belts afterward. $1,000 a day sounds like pocket change for Jim Cornette's mama.
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[1990-03-19-WWF-MSG, NY] Ultimate Warrior vs Mr Perfect
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Perfect's bumps are big but not too ridiculous here. This is safely on the line of bumping to make the opponent look good and not bumping to draw attention to oneself, which would be understandable when facing a guy like the Warrior. This is much better with Perfect on top and Warrior underneath, at least until the chinlock--Warrior busting out the sunset flip was a pleasant surprise. The megapush for the Warrior is on as he beats Perfect down and wins decisively going into WM6. This is definitely a case of Perfect dragging something average-ish out of a Warrior who did him few favors, and speaks well for him as a worker in the WWF when my opinion of Mr. P had been reaching a nadir as of late. -
Well, it wasn't a great match, but from my view that can be placed about 90% on Martel. Bret had some good counterwrestling stuff in the opening but when the match stalls when the heel goes on offense, I tend to put that on the heel. And Martel was more interested in clowning and showboating than in doing a whole lot when in control. He does sell for Bret's offense quite well, though. Crowd is hot for a stretch run of near-falls until both guys do the standard brawling outside the ring AND we get a time limit draw for a sort of double-screwjob. I don't quite get the protection of Bret here. Good match by WWF mid-card standards. I can't fault a whole lot of anything in what Bret did.
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Really, no one in this match can be accused of taking the night off, as both DCs bump pretty huge, especially Bloom going absolutely balls-out in the opening. Peterson and Wilkes aren't great but they at least work hard. The Von Raschke stuff is annoying as hell, but outside of a few spots he doesn't overshadow the match too much. All action with a fun finishing stretch of reversals and reversals of reversals with Tully picking up the victory. Blanchard appeared to be as good as he ever was here.
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Sherri actually outdoes Savage here. Man, the Big Two LOVED making their Leona Helmsley references in the first part of 1990. I can't get across just how much I hated this program at the time. I hated Sapphire, I was sick of Dusty, and I thought it was a waste of Savage. And to top it off, it lasted way past its sell-by date--we'll see if there's any reason, looking back, why this feud had to be extended all the way until SummerSlam.
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You can't have all these Atlas promos and not provide at least a token match, regardless of quality. Onita works a poor man's Muta gimmick and this ends in a predictable screw finish. The match is bad, but not offensively so--the two announcers constantly talking over each other is easily the most annoying part of this.
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The cool, calm, and collected Tony Atlas is gone, replaced by a paranoid maniac who's being forced into the ring with the "Frontier Martial Arts expert" and most dangerous man in wrestling. Despite not knowing his name this is a really effective way by Atlas of getting Onita over.
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[1990-03-17-WWF-Superstars] Brother Love: Heenan Family
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
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[1990-03-17-WWF-Superstars] Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior promos
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Hogan goes all Taoist on us talking about the sun, earth, and moon all being as one and whatever the fuck that has to do with selling us on WrestleMania VI, someone else is going to have to explain. Warrior gives his most nonsensical promo yet, but at least keeps from inadvertently heeling himself this time (I think). He wraps it up by saying he can't protect Hogan from the Ultimate Wohhhyah, then gives the hilarious look of someone who was just approached from behind by JBL in the shower.- 10 replies
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[1990-03-17-WWF-Superstars] Jesse Ventura picks a winner
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Thank God this rare moment of posterity has been preserved: Jesse acting like a full-fledged Hulkamaniac. I laughed at Jesse taking offense at Vince's "apology" to Hogan and scuffling with him. -
I had to confirm that this wasn't a repeat of the previous match. In the short amount of footage there was a pretty contrived-looking ref bump and Adams rather stupidly running right at Akbar so he could get tripped.
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[1990-03-16-NWA-Power Hour] Louisville Slugger: Ole Anderson
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Ole methodically details how he's going to destroy the Steiners' arms and then maybe go for the eye. If I have this timeline right, Ole's big plan is a pretty underwhelming one.- 11 replies
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The first fall was kind of a tepid rudo beatdown but the technico showcase in the second was something. I actually liked Satanico the most of anyone here, as he threw some great punches and just showed great fire in general. Estrada takes a death-defying bump to nowhere but comes back in the third fall to get the decisive pin on Satanico. Unfortunately the first and third falls didn't measure up to a really fun second. Heated post-match with Satanico challenging (or maybe just reminding) Estrada to a hair vs. hair match.
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[1990-03-11-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Roddy Piper
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Insects are invertebrates, yes. Most of this makes absolutely no sense at all in that '90s Piper way. That said, he sort of pulls it together at the end by asking rhetorically, "Ain't I crazy enough to get the job done?!" Gorilla concurs with, "He IS crazy!" Then when Piper turns the black half of his face to the camera as his music hits, he does a fucking Zip Coon minstrel routine. Bad News had a PROBLEM working with this guy? You don't fucking say. -
Atlas talks trash to, I'm presuming, Rochester Roadblock. Again...work issues aside, it's incredible that only fucking ICW saw fit to see the things that Atlas could still bring to the table.
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Decent segment with Kerry vacillating between lucidity and incoherence, and Travis actually doing the same. After issuing a challenge to Travis to the same "leave the ring with the belt to win" stipulation he just fought for against Soultaker, Kerry says he'll "look around" for the rightful Texas Heavyweight champion, allowing him to sloowly discus punch Travis and take the title belt back.
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[1990-03-10-USWA-Championship Sports] Interview: Jerry Lawler
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
I'm guessing Lawler was more repulsed by the fact that the chicks in Dallas were of legal age rather than that they were hairy-legged. I would think pimply-faced would be a turn-on for Lawler, though. Lawler promises to make an example out of Jarrett for the "retarded" fans in Dallas and USWA officials who deem him worthy of a title match. So USWA Texas had its own separate lineage for the Unified title?- 11 replies
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[1990-03-10-USWA-Championship Sports] Texas NAWA Wrestling Commercial
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
First I rolled my eyes at the description of the Longhorn Ballroom as "legendary" but holy Christ is there some history to that place. Built by Bob Wills. Once owned by Jack Ruby. Anybody who was anybody in country music performed there. The fucking Sex Pistols somehow got booked there and antagonized the audience until a woman assaulted Sid Vicious. 2 Live Crew started a mini-riot there once. Oh, and it hosted NAWA wrestling. -
Passable promo from Pillman, Zenk is lousy. Cornette is his usual self and Lane gets in an enjoyable line about how much he hates pretty boys. This picks up in a hurry once Pillman goes FIP, with the Midnights punishing him with some great offense mostly centered around the throat and neck. JR teases that Cornette "found out" something about Pillman but nothing is divulged. Zenk gets the tag but is quickly put down with the tennis racket, and an absolutely killer post-match beatdown follows. The Midnights hit Pillman with the Veg-o-Matic with Cornette holding the racket over Pillman's throat, Cornette picks off a parade of jobbers at will with racket shots as they try to enter the ring, and then starts doing elbowdrops with the racket into Pillman's throat. Just a fucking shame that they decided to let all of this go to waste. WCW never did get to use that angle they wanted to "save."
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I'm somewhat of a lucha novice myself but I've at least seen a little and followed some more. I think a quick Lucha Rules 101 would be helpful as I noticed JVK was taken by surprise by the 2 out of 3 falls stip in the '90 yearbook's first match: - Most matches are 6-mans and these are invariably 2 out of 3 falls, captains' rules. To win a fall you either have to defeat the designated captain or both of his partners. Many falls end with all 3 guys being pinned at once or in rapid succession. - Piledrivers are illegal and are sold big time. The martinete (tombstone) is also illegal and is an almost automatic stretcher job. - If a wrestler leaves/is thrown out of the ring one of his partners can immediately take his place. - Removing an opponent's mask is an automatic DQ. The low blow leading to a DQ is a very common finish, as is the rudo feigning getting low-blowed and getting his opponent disqualified. - Submissions are common and EVERYBODY submits no matter how big of a star they are, at least for non-decisive falls--there's no stigma attached to it like there was for a long time in the U.S. Not a lot of "fighting" in the big submission finishers, either--once it's applied, more often than not the fall is quickly over. - Mask vs. mask, mask vs. hair, or hair vs. hair matches are usually the biggest singles matches, and in terms of gates/drawing I think it's safe to say they're a bigger deal than title matches. - Lucha mats are harder than elsewhere in the world, so you're going to see a lot of the rolling bumps that get luchadores to somewhat derisively be called "tumblers." It's definitely safer than taking flat back bumps but it does take some getting used to as a viewer.
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[1990-03-10-WWF-Superstars] Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior promos
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Hogan starts off with complete bullshit and eventually wraps it up into something more coherent, which is sort of the opposite of how his promos for this feud have gone. It does say a lot that he believes Warrior's big accomplishment will be becoming the "#1 Hulkamaniac." Warrior encourages Hoke Ogan to seize control of a plane and crash it, presumably into the SkyDome. "You must self-destruct, Ho Kogan, so that you know who is...the Chosen One." Jeez, he's not only coming off as a messianic heel, now he's coming off as a cowardly one. "Beat yourself, so I don't have to"? That's the message of our new #1 babyface?- 12 replies
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[1990-03-09-USWA Texas] Steve Austin vs Chris Adams / Interview: Chris Adams
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Austin doesn't do a whole lot besides the sleeper. Akbar slips Austin brass knucks, but they're hijacked by Adams, only for Tony Falk to catch him for the DQ. Adams announces that next week will be a Scientific Wrestling Match between him and Steve Williams--one punch or hair pull is a disqualification.- 8 replies
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Garvin works this like Bobby Heenan, constantly running away from trouble and only tagging in at strategic points...and tagging right back out if he got touched. Travis does provide some funky offense--that weird sliding uppercut/neckbreaker thing, and a Vaderbomb/elbow drop, but the Jarrett FIP segment doesn't last too long and ends rather easily, and then we go to a double countout. I didn't pick up on the chant, though I did enjoy one fan taunting Garvin with an oversized baby bottle and Marc Lowrance's continued euphemisms to describe Garvin ("unusual" ... "the Liberace of wrestling").
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[1990-03-08] Entertainment Tonight: Superstar Graham & Bruno Sammartino
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
Bruno and Graham independently peg the number of wrestlers using steroids at 90%. Graham says he's the first pro athlete to come clean about using and abusing steroids, which he may actually be correct about--I think Lyle Alzado was a couple of years later. And that's about it--hard-hitting in-depth coverage worthy of the ET name.- 12 replies