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[1999-11-08-WWF-Raw] Lillian Garcia announcement / Big Bossman promo
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1999
This is a lot to throw on Lillian's plate considering she's barely capable of getting out a ring intro at this point--she screws up the time of the private service, since it can't be "this weekend" if it's going to get shown on Smackdown. Is the sound guy really going to strike up the Boss Man's music during *this* moment? Oh well, Boss Man is a delightfully evil scumbag and his poem is still funny in its audacity. "I got feelings, TOO!" -
Ad hoc title change, as the WWF was preparing to soon send Foley into retirement--Austin's neck surgery changed those plans somewhat. Mankind and Al Snow losing to the Outlaws is an "upset," Kevin? Didn't the Outlaws beat Mankind and The Rock for the belts a few weeks ago? I'm not sure a tag title loss really needed to be played for comedy and trying to take shots at Wal-Mart and college professors with too much time on their hands, either.
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Kimberly tries to set David up for an attack by Bam Bam Bigelow, but it backfires. David continues to stalk Kimberly at Jason-level speed, and we get Kimberly fumbling with her keys trying to get into a car. I'm literally stunned they didn't have the car fail to start, just to throw every lame slasher movie cliche imaginable into the mix.
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[1999-11-08-WCW-Nitro] Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and Goldberg
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1999
Tony and the Brain gamely attempt to put over Lash LeRoux in defeat to Scott Hall. Gee, I bet one of these riot police guys isn't going to be Goldberg or somebody. Did I actually hear Nash call the guy "Goldberg" before the reveal?- 4 replies
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Jim Duggan has a job, at last. Nash is dressed as the Grand Wizard, which goes completely over the audience's heads--I think my Dad was one of about 8 people watching who knew what this was referencing. David Flair is now doing his crazy-man routine. Good Lord is Nash annoying. Scintillating footage of Lex Luger swiping a wet floor cone. Kimberly lamely approaches a conveniently face-hidden stranger who of course turns out to be David Flair, who does nothing when he has Kimberly within arm's reach besides make faces, allowing her to run off. Vampiro is re-introduced, for the 2nd or 3rd time. He monotones about how being a Misfit is a way of life. Creative Control refuses Kimberly an audience with the Powers That Be. Nash plays Carnac and mentions Funk & Wagnall's, as our detour into 1975 continues. He makes a not particularly relevant crack about Austin and the Undertaker, while Hall brags about being drunk for a year. Luger apparently slipped on the wet spot? What the fuck was the point of him taking the sign? Kimberly shows off more of her acting skills...in the bathroom...next to a piano(??). David corners her again.
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SHOOTING! Dustin's promo isn't bad and actually gets over. Too bad they'll shit on all this in a few months, but I can't even remember which regime turned him into the American Nightmare. Dustin telling us we'd "never forget the name of..." was a hell of a lame way to wrap things up.
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[1999-11-08-WCW-Nitro] Stacy Keibler and Nitro Girls contest
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1999
AC Jazz stands up for Nitro Girl purity. "The last time I saw so many little arnimores(??) it was at the household department at K-Mart (?!)." HOW 'BOUT IT? Spice stands up for the prospects. Jazz and Spice talk at each other a lot but don't really do anything. Fans don't really seem to appreciate the other Nitro Girls breaking this up, as terrible as this looks.- 4 replies
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Good Lord, I cannot describe how BORED this made me. The flaming balcony senton was a holy-shit moment, the rest of this was four anonymous guys managing to make action involving light tubes and barbed wire boards as dull as humanly possible. The pre-match "straight" tag stuff is work not worthy of opening-match work on a rinky-dink '90s Midwestern indy, much less a rinky-dink Japanese indy. Honma was supposedly the darling of the early-'00s deathmatch scene but he's rapidly running out of chances to impress me at all.
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[1999-11-07-ECW-November to Remember] Mike Awesome vs Masato Tanaka
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1999
The usual stunt show between these two--I can't say if it's really better or worse than their other matches, but still...the stunts are always done really, really, well. And Awesome cutting off Tanaka's attempted Hulk-Up was a really good way to set up the finish.- 5 replies
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All the major matches for November 2 Remember get attention, bookended by Sandman's departure from ECW and his return. Well-done as usual, the perfect sort of go-home hype video.
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Mr. Golden doesn't show himself to be much of a brawler here.
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I don't know the time frame of when this was filmed re: the Gilbert incident, but Lawler is namedropped so many times here you'd swear he was on his way in...
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Wait, is Damaja wrestling Buchanan or Dinsmore? Buchanan alludes to having been in prison, I believe. I do like that they acknowledge that there's a camera filming this.
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To the point and effective enough--better than some other OVW videos, at least. In addition to the Coal Miner's Glove Match, Dinsmore will have to face Damaja at the Gardens. If Dinsmore loses, Damaja gets 5 minutes with Bolin and Dinsmore will be in "breach of contract" with BS.
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[1999-11-06-MPPW-TV] Brian Christopher, Doug Gilbert and Tommy Rich
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1999
This has all been recapped in this thread, and seeing this all for the first time...wow. Unbelievable. I've been waiting and wondering for weeks now, "Is this the segment where Doug goes off? Or this? Or this one?" Incredibly, this is one of the very best segments of the '99 Yearbook before Doug shows up. That Doug goes off after all we've already seen is like icing on the cake. I've been deliberately avoiding reading up on this incident in detail because I wanted to see it first, and now I can't wait to get into the follow-up from this. This has more layers to it than the most complicated wrestling storyline, proving that truth is stranger than fiction, even in wrestling--just so many aspects to talk about that I can't do it justice. But some as they come to me: - All the shootish comments throughout the year about what a loose cannon Doug is bear fruit in the worst possible way from a PPW standpoint. - All the low blows Christopher and Spellbinder were laying on the Gilberts and Rich...if that wasn't cleared, then Randy Hales is a dumbass. I laughed at a lot of these lines but like the Arn Anderson parody I felt guilty about doing so, not knowing how they were being perceived in real life. Looking back, knowing that they weren't bothering to go over this with Doug anyway, I'm honestly half-surprised they didn't try to evoke Eddie for some more cheap heat. - Just how much of a plan did Doug go into this with? Did he know upon coming back (he'd been touring for IWA in Japan which was why he'd been absent for a few weeks) that he was going to cut loose? Did he cut a traditional wrestling promo to start with (complete with "Tonight in the New Daisy..." hype) just to lull everybody, or did he, in the middle of the promo, decide "fuck it"? - I also wonder if the first bristling by Dave was something that Gilbert took as a bit of a challenge--that he saw how he was able to get a rise out of Dave by outing Lawler as Christopher's dad, and decided to see how much he'd get away with. - Where is Lawler, anyway? He had to leave television due to his mayoral run lest WMC run afoul of equal-time laws, but the election was in early October. It's not a case of Yearbook selection bias, because Observer recaps of these shows don't mention him, either. Why wouldn't he at least be showing up every so often in an emeritus/part-time role, at the very least? - What did Tommy Rich think of all this? Was he complicit? Did he feel double-crossed? Did he stand by Doug? His is much closer to a wrestling promo but he still works in a personal shot at Spellbinder ("If it wasn't for steroids, you wouldn't weigh but 110 pounds!" Dave seemed to like that line.) Just an amazing piece of television, sometimes even for the right reasons. With the Jerry Jarrett/Memphis PERSONAL ISSUES DRAW MONEY philosophy (printed and hanging on Jerry's office wall), the line between shoot and work is sometimes blurred more effectively than Vince Russo or Eric Bischoff or even Brian Pillman could ever dream of. We saw it blur more and more over the course of these segments until finally coalesced into one giant, glorious explosion. #2 Memphis segment of the decade, right behind the Snowman debut.- 5 replies
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A feud about who's more "entertaining" or a better worker--sigh. Simon Diamond makes what may be his Yearbook debut. He shows off his big Dick. No idea who that is. (Heidenreich? Really??!) Danny Doring cries over the apparent loss of his mother--he gets over it quickly. Bill Alfonso has threats for Chris Candido on behalf of Sabu. Simon's bringing his big Dick to Buffalo--Hertz is apparently supposed to be doing a dumb meathead gimmick but his delivery is bad even by that standard. Jerry Lynn is going to kick Tajiri's ass, and kick it REAL GOOD. The Baldies are here for New Jack. PN News shows off his Gilbert Gottfried impression. Simon Diamond can't say the word "stiff" without it being bleeped. Corino, Jack Victory, and Rhino in an unflattering pink and black singlet stand by. Raven is less than thrilled about Sandman joining forces with him and Dreamer, but would rather condemn his soul than not to have a soul by losing to Justin Credible.
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Another good TV bout--they run through 7 eliminations in about 10 minutes but they all work and make sense. Aside, yes, from Kane popping up from the Fameasser. Vince has now gifted HHH two consecutive wins through his own incompetence, but HHH going over both Rock and Austin is the real story here. Well, that and another one: it's hard not to notice how little Austin does here. He basically works one sequence to eliminate X-Pac and another at the end. No one knew it then but that seems like an ominous sign.
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ANOTHER instance of DX recapping Raw? Jesus, how stuck for time WERE they? No wonder Loss and Will skipped most of that episode. Supposedly live, Vince first said, "I'd rather join the Ku Klux Klan than join DX!" That didn't get a good response, leading to the much better line we see here. Vince gives us a hell of a hook for the rest of the show. Oh, and no big deal for next Smackdown--just an appearance by Schwarzenegger. The WWF hasn't lost a beat from a business standpoint, but even if I'm not a big fan of the DX reunion, quality-wise they now seem to be turning a corner.
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[1999-11-04-WWF-Smackdown] Mankind & Al Snow vs Hardcore & Crash Holly
PeteF3 replied to Loss's topic in November 1999
The Hollys are surprisingly effective at working basic heel tag formula stuff. Again, a match gets a little time to breathe with a focus on in-ring psychology. Surprisingly fun, and yeah, there's no doubt Snow winning a tag title was a direct reaction to the action figure stuff. Foley is pretty fun bouncing around strip joints and peep shows and porno stores looking for Val, especially when he tries to bribe a manager with a $1 bill (then yanks it back from a stripper when he decides to look elsewhere). But Val's been at the arena the whole time as Al Snow finds out. Incidentally this might be the only instance I can think of where Mick Foley's actually *wearing* a title belt. -
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Well, a window was open to actually do something with La Parka, but that's shot now.