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    WWE muscles ROH out of potential MSG date

    Haven't been to a SXSW in ages, but lots of non-SXSW shows put up around during SXSW week. The Slamdance Film Festival takes place the same week and within the same area as the bigger Sundance Film Festival.
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    The Innovation of the Tapout in Pro Wrestling

    As both a boxing and MMA fan for decades, can't remember ever hearing Jimmerson referred to as a "highly ranked boxer".
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    The Innovation of the Tapout in Pro Wrestling

    From History of the WWE website. look up all the Ultimo Dragon matches for 1997: Great American Bash 97 - Moline, IL - Mark of the Quad - June 15, 1997 (9,613) "The Ultimo Dragon defeated Psychosis (w/ Sonny Onoo) via submission with the Dragon Sleeper at 14:22 after Onoo accidentally kicked Psychosis in the head; Mike Tenay did guest commentary for the bout, subbing for Dusty Rhodes; the commentary team made note that Psychosis' tap out was understood as a submission."
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    The Innovation of the Tapout in Pro Wrestling

    First time I’m hearing this about Terry Taylor. Earliest guys I can remember were Ken Shamrock and Taz. Especially remember Shamrock tapping out people in the Spring of 1997. I remember a Shamrock ‘shootfighting’ exhibition segment on RAW, and the May 1997 PPV match with Vader ending via tap out. Even in early 1997, and in 1996, verbal submissions were the norm, and tapping your hand on the mat was a way to sell the pain of the hold. But curious, when was the Ultimo Dragon vs Psicosis match since maybe it does predate Shamrock's WWF arrival?
  5. One of the issues with Mauro is the more confident he is, the worst he comes off. Best example is when he did commentary for Showtime, and seeing the difference between how he called MMA and boxing. He was pretty obnoxious calling MMA, but so reigned in when calling boxing. Like he knew he was the least informed person in the booth for boxing, and didn't want to look embarrassing in front of Al Bernstein, so he just did a decent and solid job in his smaller role. Maybe pair him with someone he wouldn't want to be embarrassed in front for his work in NXT.
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    Wrestlers who are BOTH Overrated and Underrated

    Great to hear about Solar. Yeah I was pretty impressed by him and Fuerza the last time I saw them, both were doing their best to make sure the fans left happy.
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    Wrestlers who are BOTH Overrated and Underrated

    I think with Navarro, he has a set formula when he's working against guys he clearly sees as below him and it's just frustrating to watch at times. I remember I used to joke about it when Mike Quackenbush complained about Navarro working that way on his MySpace, and thought Quackenbush was being too sensitive, but after watching so much Navarro this decade, I see what Quack was getting at. I was kinda surprised by his match with Sabre Jr. I really dug it a lot and it's my favorite Navarro match in years. Honestly thought going in that Navarro would just stick him in his lazy "lock a hold, talk shit, and release the hold" formula but they actually were countering one another. Amused that some of the reviews were framing Navarro as this 'real' maestro and Sabre as some fake wrestler or whatever, when it was clear watching the match and seeing the post-match interviews with media that Navarro really liked Sabre and his style of wrestling a lot. Also, I do sometimes feel odd critiquing Navarro since maybe our expectations are too high, but also try my best to compare him to those around him, and in his age group. I'd be more excited attending a live show with Solar than Navarro at this point. I saw Solar at a MMA gym in March, in a trios match where he was the captain of his tecnico team with local luchadores against Fuerza Guerrera and his team of local rudos. Match was a blast, not like blowaway great or whatever, but just a good solid match, with Solar and Fuerza using all these little tricks and old school routines to get the crowd invested. I think Solar, Black Terry, and even current day Pirata Morgan are just smarter workers than Navarro, or at least more interested in trying different things. In the past year, online and in person, I've seen Pirata have bloodbaths, comedy matches, WWE 2000 Hardcore-style matches, and okay-ish trios matches, and while none have been great, they've at least been pretty fun and worked for the crowd.
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    Current New Japan

    Yeah, Joe-Punk III had a "no time limit" stip and some fans were expecting that to go very long, and it ended up being shorter than the previous two matches, which were draws.
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    Wrestlers who are BOTH Overrated and Underrated

    When I saw this topic, I thought of Negro Navarro, who I like a lot but who I wish we had more criticisms of him. So he is very underrated by so many that don't go out of their way to watch lucha libre, or know of lucha libre. But I feel that he's overrated in the sense that you rarely see anything critical written about his matches, specifically the matches when he just doesn't care about his opponent. Also if we want to compare him to his peers and age group, he is clearly behind Black Terry and Solar, who I feel are far more complete workers and more engaged with their audience and their opponents.
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    UFC is a Solid Heel Territory Right Now

    Arlovski and Sylvia were flawed as fuck, but let's not pretend that Arlovski wasn't on a five-fight winning streak, including leaving the UFC on a three fight winning streak when he fought Fedor in Affliction. He was clearly, at worst, a top 5 ranked heavyweight at the time. Sylvia was always flawed and chinny, but Sylvia was literally one fight removed from fighting for the UFC interim heavyweight title when he fought Fedor. Then Fedor was going to fight Josh Barnett, who was was probably the most accomplished contender at the time, in any organization, before Barnett failed the drug test. Fedor's Affliction run was pretty legit.
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    Who was a bigger star at his peak?

    Still a large segment of online MMA fans that view the YES chants as Diego Sanchez's gimmick.
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    Time to Boycott ROH cuase of there owners

    I didn't get into Rey since Rey is a bit more complex case, and yes, WWE's booking of Rey was historically awful.
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    Time to Boycott ROH cuase of there owners

    no im not they were bith born in the us ie there not JCC like at all you are were your born eddie was born in texas rey in san diego, so yes there more like oscar than JCC who made Mistico a compere too someone born in mexico ocsar i wager was hero to Latin fans but you will never see him on list of top mexican boxers of all time cuase i one huge reason he was not born in mexico nor were rey and eddie and this is the same reason i will never have eddie ot rey listed as top mexican worker of all time Woooosh Wait, so Eddie and Rey aren't really Mexican because they were born in America? Ummm, Texas and California WERE Mexico for a long time, for one thing. The other thing is, "What the fuck?" Why is the "Japanese" guy suddenly an expert on the feelings of "Latin" fans? I'm not really sure what shodate's complete arguments are here, but there is some truth to what he's attempting to say in at least one aspect. A big reason why Cain Velasquez struggled really connecting with the fanbase in Mexico was because he was American born and struggled to talk Spanish. It was an ongoing joke with so many of my friends about how a Southwestern Chicano was being framed as a Mexican star by the UFC. Also it was a really forced attempt at creating a "Mexican star" that rung hollow and revealed that UFC didn't really understand these nuances. Shodate is on to something about how boxing has a better understanding on the nuances of regional Mexican vs Chicanos than wrestling and MMA. I knfow we probably saw this in the 1970s with feuds Jose Lothario was involved in but modern day wrestling you'd never see something like Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz, where a part of the feud was someone from Mexico going up against a Houston Chicano. Not sure if the examples (Eddy, Rey, Mistico) he is using would be what I would use and don't agree with some other stuff, but there is something to what he is saying about Julio Cesar Chavez and Oscar de la Hoya and the different demographics they were heroes to. what do you disagree with id will debate you on them point too and thank for backing me up on the ocser and JCC things There is a lot of points to get to here, but one point I would address is this one: I think in Feb. 2004 there genuinely was a very conscious effort from WWE in trying to get Eddy Guerrero over as a main eventer, and don't believe at all that the company saw him as a mid-carder at that point. Pretty much all of Smackdown from late Jan. 2004 to June or July 2004 was built around Guerrero. When it came to the way some issues were handled, Smackdown was pretty decent and progressive at the time, more so than other periods of WWE. I say some, not at all, 'cause there was some really bad stuff on there, especially with how storylines involving women were handled. It was surprising how pro-immigrant those few months were, how the top babyfaces in the company were very much pro-undocumented immigrant, with them even realising a rap song, which was bad and corny, but was pro-crossing borders. The top heels that Guerrero were facing were: Brock Lesnar: Known homophobe who made fun of Mexicans and shamed Guerrero's addiction. Later also paid off when Cain Velasquez beat him up in the UFC. Kurt Angle: He policed the idea of who can really be an "American", who can really be a representative for a company like WWE, and whose whole spiel was about respectability politics, and like Lesnar, also used Guerrero's addiction to shame him. JBL: Rich, white Texan turned New Yorker, who was literally on Fox News; a ruthless capitalist who assaulted undocumented immigrants who were trying to cross the Mex-Tex border in Laredo. Also 'caused Herlinda Guerrero to faint in El Paso. Paul Heyman: Also was spewing anti-immigrant rhetoric. This was a lot more interesting and better than how WWE handled the Jinder Mahal angle last year where Mahal was painted as a bad guy for just wanting more diversity and being proud of his heritage, while Randy Orton of all people was portrayed as the babyface. At least in 2004, WWE tried something different with it's main event programs. Obviously WWE wasn't doing it because it was the right thing or anything, but because they had picked up how much Guerrero was moving ratings and how a large portion of those people that were tuning in for Guerrero were from immigrant families or mixed-status families, where the characters of Lesnar, Angle, Heyman, and JBL, and the politics they have, were the true enemy. Guerrero, both the person and the character, was a dude from the border, who struggled with addiction and mental illness issues, like so many Chicano men from the border, and Lesnar, Angle, Heyman, and JBL were doing everything in their power to fuck with him.
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    Time to Boycott ROH cuase of there owners

    Vader takes suplexes very well.
  15. El Dandy totally loves Atlantis and puts him over all the time. Probably a lot due to their friendship back in the day, but it's funny reading Dandy on Facebook tell different Atlantis stories in all CAPS. Also Eddy Guerrero said his big influences when he started wrestling and the wrestlers he studied were Casas, Dandy and Atlantis.