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  1. SomethingSavage

    All Elite Wrestling

    Hangman Page being considered a top guy going forward is probably the least likable thing I've heard about AEW so far. I mean, it's not the dirt worst idea. But it's not exactly something that gets me excited. When did people start seeing this dude as a top guy? And why? If it's a very recent thing, then please. By all means, recommend me some viewing so I can see for myself. I'll gladly remain open to having my mind changed on the guy. But in everything I've seen from him for the last 5 years or so, he strikes me as a perfectly passable mid-card guy. No harm in that either. But I always think back to that feud with Jay Briscoe in ROH. They're having this wild, violent, bloody battle. And I'm starting to see Page as a possible threat. A believable threat. But then he just has to sprint across the apron with all the coordinated athleticism of a crippled goose & do a gainer through the air with that silly Shooting Star Shoulder block shit. And he whiffs. Completely. And Jay has to sell it like a shotgun blast to the face. Page rejoices. The rest of us weep in embarrassment and reach the realization that this guy is looked at like a geek for a reason. But hey. If the consensus is that he's leveled up from being a Bullet Club B-team guy, let me know.
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    Grilling JR

    I haven't noticed this enough for it to strike me as an observation or anything yet, but I'll be paying attention to see if I notice it more going forward. Any other notable examples? I definitely thought JR was referring to Neidhart at first - but didn't want to go there due to the timing with his recent passing and all. But then Conrad threw the Lex curveball and JR went along with it from there. JR speaks in generalities, well, in general though. A lot. As long as we continue to get good stories and shows of this caliber, I'm good with it.
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    Grilling JR

    Alright. I'm fully on board with this show for now. The latest episode reviewing the events surrounding Beware of Dog was a sleeper hit. Plenty of entertaining stories and little gems. It was a topic I honestly wasn't expecting much from (especially since Prichard already covered it a few years back), but I really dug it. Buck Johnson. Bearcat Johnson. Bobo Johnson. Porkchop Johnson. Junkyard Johnson. Thunderbolt Johnson. Whateverthefuck Johnson. The story of coming up with a name for Ahmed Johnson was tremendous and should be heard by all. Enjoyed the story about having lunch with Rocky at the diner. Rock expressing how he'd like to pay for both meals but doesn't have the money is pitch perfect. Even if you told me it was embellished or exaggerated (and I'm not saying that it is or anything), it sums up everything about the Rock's personality that you've heard from countless people before. Good stuff. Loved hearing JR go into detail about Yoko's weight gain and health issues. We've heard some of this stuff from Bruce before, but JR tackles it with a more personalized approach. He recalls explaining to Yoko that he is going to literally eat his way out of a job if he doesn't change his lifestyle. Also, apparently among Yoko's favorite foods were fried turkey tails slathered & dipped in mayonnaise. Yikes, Yokes. It's good to hear so many people (Austin, Corny, JR, even Bruce) sound off on Savio Vega's skills and put him over as a great worker these past several years. I hope it resonates and reaches more & more people, because I still hear/see some folks talking about Savio as if he's just the punchline for how disappointing or underwhelming a "mystery partner" reveal can turn out. Apparently, an early idea pitched for the Goldust character included having Marlena wear a PROSTHETIC PENIS. That's right. So that the outline of a dick could be visible through her gowns and dresses. Incredible. I cracked up at Conrad calling bullshit whenever JR tried defending the Goldust premise. Conrad outright asks JR if he even knew what "androgynous" meant before hearing it used to describe the Goldust character. "Naw. I can't even spell it now!" At least Ross sort of relents and admits that he just heard it repeated so many times in those meetings. Next week is Over The Edge '99. That should be interesting. I give The Lapsed Fan a lot of shit (and rightfully so), but their coverage of that show was among their very best ever. I'm curious to see which angles or approaches Conrad chooses to employ, because there's just SO MUCH ground to cover. And with Jim being right there at ground zero as the tragedy happened, oof. It's a delicate deal, for sure. I didn't give JR's old podcast any time whatsoever, but this new format absolutely works for me. JR as the host with rotating guests was meh. But JR as storyteller, answering questions while Conrad hosts and serves as a steady tour guide is much better.
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    Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

    I've never actually watched along with any watch-along podcast. I listen at the gym, while commuting, grilling, doing yardwork, etc. I mean, it's not like it's a requirement or a prerequisite to enjoy the conversation. Things are fairly easy to follow. If anything, I'd imagine it would be more distracting than anything to try to watch a show and focus on the podcast audio simultaneously. There's nothing groundbreaking to be found here, but it's a decent little listen. Both guys are having fun and talking about random stuff throughout the show. My main takeaway was Bruce randomly busting out a Lance Russell impression at times. So there's that. Conrad goes into a bit of a sidebar about television ratings and fan criticism that I wish they would've delved into a bit more as a broader discussion, but it just kind of petered out. There's a Q&A episode coming up in a few weeks, and they sort of teased that there would be some discussion about past versus present booking philosophies. If they actually adhere to it, then that could be interesting.
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    WWE TV 5/13 - 5/19: Raw is Megaman

    It's no wonder why interest in WWE is way down. Even setting aside all the issues with their presentation and storytelling that we've touched on before... Too many of the guys on TV today seem like they learned to work in a Gymboree in front of a small circle of their friends and peers only, and it shows. Nobody works the crowd. No attempts are made to engage the audience. Nobody even tries to establish any real connection. Nobody elicits a raw reaction. Nobody reaches to invoke any kind of actual human emotion. It's all stringing together moves, like they're at the PC trying to pop their peers or impress the road agents with their "workrate" or some shit. Everything looks & feels like it's being done SPECIFICALLY and ONLY for the sake of receiving a grade or a scorecard at the end. NOTHING feels like a struggle or a fight. There is no urgency. There is no forethought put into what an individual would actually do in any setting. It's all just "hurry up and get to the next rematch." Even worse, they mistakenly confuse all the pregnant pauses, the contrived facial expressions, and the terrible dinner theatre dialogue for "drama." And so that gets done to death. On top of that, we're smack dab in the Gratitude Era - where any match that even has a small fraction of a chance in hell of feeling like something special is immediately undercut by a bunch of their enemies rushing out to pat them on the back, take a bow, or try ultra hard to come up the wittiest way to say, "Congratulations!" on social media. It's pretty fucking awful at best, y'all.
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    WWE TV 5/13 - 5/19: Raw is Megaman

    Their whole act was perfect for ROH. They played nicely off Punk's legacy and his past fling with Maria. Plus the years & years of having their talent pool "raided" by the big, bad corporation. Plus the fact that Bennett was tailor made for the WWE house style of the time. It just fit and clicked so well in a very specific context there. As far as WWE's declining viewership goes, I honestly don't know what it would take for them to come to the realization that it truly is the stars that draw interest and viewers. The brand doesn't sell shit on its own. You need stars. You need attractions. You need competitors with momentum to oppose rival competitors with momentum. This 50/50 nonsense needs to go. This start & stop stuff is garbage. Stop punishing your audience whenever they choose to like something. The self-contained breathing apparatus that was John Cena is gone now, and it shows. Everything feels like it's on life support. The big money is there, but the decline in actual quality is drastic & downright astounding. WCW made big money in 1997 and 1998, too. Then '99 dropped 'em in their tracks like a heart attack. Same/same. The McMahons' bizarre hang-ups and insecurities have caused them to withdraw and retreat away from promoting people like actual stars. But those fortress walls they've built to keep everyone caged in like slaves to the system are the exact same walls that keep everyone from getting over. It's fucking madness, y'all. Bring on the Elite.
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    All Elite Wrestling

    I'm not trying to pile on the guy or anything, but Earl's work really took a nosedive during his time with TNA. I'm honestly unsure of how many people are aware, which is why I mention it. But yeah. If you thought the cadence of his count looked poor towards the end of his WWE stint, it eventually got much MUCH worse. And he got less & less mobile. And slower. And less involved. And less dependable at doing much of anything. That's not me being ageist. That's just me observing his performance and his work. That's just common sense. Besides, if you're talking veteran refs who CAN bump, who are reliable, who get involved, who actively enhance every match - then they've already got Knox right there. Dude's the best ref going today. Period. But hey. Good on Earl for getting a paying gig. I ain't mad at it.
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    83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

    I really dug all the merchandise talk on the Slamboree '97 episode. The little sidebar about TNA trumpeting their "per head" numbers when they were drawing 200-300 people into the buildings was amusing, too. I've heard about it enough, and I certainly believe the numbers to be true. But I just can't "see" any Sting shirts or merch from 1997. I mean, I guess the masks sold like crazy? Because I definitely *do* recall seeing those things everywhere. But for me? In my mind? It's just a sea of nWo and 3:16. I'm talking black tees errrrwherrrr for almost 2 years. Oh. And those DDP shirts with the purple & powder blue coloring. The idea that Sting merch was ever outselling nWo swag is still strange to me though. It just doesn't seem accurate, even if it is. I loved hearing Eric's detailed breakdown on the 4-man booth, too. We've heard Bischoff go "into the weeds" about commentary before, but this was another level. If you ever want a complete, thorough analysis of Eric's thoughts on commentary and the various forms it can take? Look no further than right here. Bischoff does an excellent job in covering the purposes of color commentary, play-by-play, expert analyses, and well-timed humor. He gushes over Heenan's wit, Dusty's timing, and Tenay's encyclopedic knowledge. But his description of Tony might be the most on point of them all - calling Schiavone the "traffic cop" of the announce booth. I had some major time to fill today - between Legs Day, meal prep, and my drive time between those - so I was also able to burn through the Uncensored '96 show. This one had less stuff of interest for me, but it was still another solid show in all fairness. Eric goes hilariously HARD at Beefcake. This ranks right up there with the awesome Bagwell and Jarrett rants from previous episodes. Unfortunately, the Uncensored show features a lot more Meltzer ranting. It sort of derails the discussion a few different times. It's not quite enough to drown out the positive points of the whole show or anything, but it *is* enough to drag things down and feel like an unfortunate return to an earlier era. Oh. And they took a moment in the open for the Slamboree '97 show to react to the response for the Korea show. Conrad points out how it's been interesting to see the downloads trend upward after word of mouth spread, since initial downloads weren't high and people probably weren't familiar with the event.
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    83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

    It's tremendous, man. Not much actual wrestling talk, but I think it's pretty close to perfect in terms of tackling the subject matter. There *is* one minor meltdown on a Meltzer matter, but it comes when Conrad reads the rumor Dave reported about Hogan supposedly declining to participate to avoid doing a job to Inoki. Eric had previously already covered Hulk's (lack of) involvement, and so it felt kind of unnecessary for Conrad to even retread that news bit. Same time? I tend to believe Bischoff here. Like you, I could probably come across as a Bischoff apologist, but I don't know. Eric presents the facts (there would be no merch money for Hulk here, Hogan was not contractually obligated so it would be strictly voluntary for him to work the show, and Hogan had no real motivation to go into this semi-hostile territory for a show). Plus Hogan is the same guy who willingly offered to do a job for Jacques Rougeau in a similar situation, while Hulk was practically at the peak of his powers. I doubt he would've went running away from a job for Inoki, who Hulk has seemed appreciative of at various times. But I'm hardly going to demonize Hogan for not wanting to travel into uncharted territory for a non-paying gig during his scheduled time off, ya know. Call me crazy, I guess. And yeah. I'm with you, @The Thread Killer. I let my wrestling podcasts sit on the back burner for awhile and drifted over to other stuff for a couple of months. I do this every so often to keep things fresh & prevent burnout. I let this show sit from the Uncensored shows on up until this past week. Now I'm burning through this backlog, along with some select Something To Wrestle shows and of course the new JR stuff (which is probably what drew me back in, if I really look at it). I know our thoughts sometimes line up fairly closely, but I'm curious to hear you reflections once you get a chance to check it out. You always seem to point out or give voice to little things I miss in my reviews anyhow.
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    83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

    That episode covering the Collision in Korea was downright FASCINATING. Seriously. It leapfrogs most of the field & instantly ranks right up there among the very best podcasts I've heard. This is Bischoff at his absolute best. The story Eric told about going for an early morning run is so engrossing and enthralling. His descriptions of the people and the scenery PUTS YOU right there as if it's happening in front of your eyes. It's like hearing this cinematic screenplay described to you through your earholes. Very interesting stuff. Also dug the details about the tour and the altered take on historical events. Some creepy stuff thrown in there, too - particularly the part about how malnourished the people appeared, and how they would eat their own dead in the more poverty-stricken populations. Oh. And I got a kick out of Ric Flair being weaponized as the ultimate embodiment of "evil" American decadence. Good stuff. Highly recommended for anyone out there who hasn't checked it out yet.
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    WWE TV 5/13 - 5/19: Raw is Megaman

    Percy Watson quit the company to pursue his acting career, in what could legitimately turn out to be the most exciting thing to happen in WWE this week.
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    83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

    Still going back and catching up on some older episodes I'd skipped. That Mean Gene tribute was awesome. Loved the glowing praise Bischoff gave to Gene's involvement with the Hulk Hogan heel turn in '96. It made me go back and check out the actual segment itself, and yeah. Okerlund is absolutely the perfect selection for that spot. Nothing to really write home about the Spring Stampede '94 episode. You guys have touched on the Missy Hyatt stuff enough, so I won't retread some already tired terrain there.
  13. I just randomly came across a clip of Mojo Rawley's new entrance and gimmick & whatnot. I'm not sure what in the actual fuck I just saw, but it... It wasn't good, y'all. It wasn't fit for television. It was awful. Embarrassingly bad. Like, sub-Ascension level embarrassing. Like, Mantaur level shameful. Glacier's long-ass entrance, complete with snow flurries and overly drawn-out karate thrusts, wasn't this cringe-worthy. I mean, the guy never had a particularly "good" act or anything. But oof. This was BAD. He's got to be thinking this is truly bottom of the barrel stuff. I legit felt bad for him.
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    Is TNA the worst wrestling promotion in history?

    He was inexplicably over a few separate times. It's weird. Overall, I don't think I dislike him quite as much as most. I mean, he's tolerable. And I've come to enjoy him (at times) in brawls. But he's not very good at the fundamentals or the in-betweens that matter where it counts. The guy got by on presence. He carried himself like a star, and so some influential people perceived him to be a star. He came along at a time when that loud, brash, bombastic personality and cadence was what EVERYBODY thought they should ape in order to be a top guy. Everyone had it embedded in their mind that they needed to talk like The Rock, essentially. Kennedy did that. Dude literally talked like Rock and walked like Austin - even did the head bob trash talk mannerisms. Kennedy was like a living, breathing CAW where somebody mashed up the traits and movesets of the Attitude Era's most over guys or something. Really strange to look back on now that I think about it. But yeah. Check out that cage match with Kurt, if nothing else. It's violent. It's bloody. It's a glorious, fitting finale of a dogfight that just doesn't get enough love in the grand scheme of things.
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    83 Weeks with Eric Bischoff

    I've been letting these episodes build up for about 2 months now, but I randomly decided to listen to the Spring Stampede '97 show at the gym today. It's another easy, solid listen. Eric's thorough breakdown on the skills & talents of the one Lord Steven Regal was epic. That was some GWE on PWO level shit and should be sought out by all immediately. Truly good stuff. Oof. Conrad goes in HARD AF on the Public Enemy. "Na-na-na-NOBODY. THAT'S WHO." legitimately cracked me up though. And I still get a kick out of the running joke of Bischoff shitting on Jimmy Hart at every available opportunity. He doesn't go out of his way to say anything here. But there's a point where Conrad lists off Hart's name, and Eric audibly lets out this groan of suffering & sheer agony. It's hilarious. Like the sound of a middle-aged man wrestling with the world's worst recorded case of heartburn. Eric's hang-up on the front back kicks & front round kicks and whateverthefuck else kicks is just bizarre. It's his equivalent of McMahon's corporate buzz speak and mandated terminology. The rant about Tony calling the kick by the wrong name was funny through, because absolutely no one on God's green earth gave a single solitary fuck what the kick was called. Except Eric Bischoff, of course. "Rob Van Dam as Glacier" was a rumor I was totally unaware of. Never realized that was even a thing. Eric actually had quite a bit of fun with the gossip & rumors on this show. Hope that trend continues, actually. I don't know how much of Ultimo Dragon's stuff holds up, but I think the question has me interested enough to go back and check out some of that stuff. I remember really digging the matches with Rey and especially Psicosis from WCW, but that's going off memory alone. I may go back & scope some of those out real soon, if nothing else.
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