Grimmas

Oh my I loved that match. It's not good or anything, but it was exactly what you'd want from a New Jack vs Bam Bam match. Really a lot of fun.

by the way, best scene ever.

230 - Jon Cortez 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 423 # of Ballots: 15 Average Vote: 72.80 High Vote: 44 (Matt D) Low Vote: 100

231 - Juventud Guerrera 2006 Ranking: honourable mention (111) Points: 420 # of Ballots: 19 Average Vote: 78.89 High Vote: 37 (anarchistxx) Low Vote: 98

232 - Masakatsu Funaki 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 408 # of Ballots: 10 Average Vote: 60.20 High Vote: 37 (Parties) Low Vote: 100

That run was sad to post. Only a couple of folks left that I feel I can not personally see a case for.

233 - El Solar 2006 Ranking: honourable mention (131) Points: 400 # of Ballots: 15 Average Vote: 74.33 High Vote: 36 (JRGoldman) Low Vote: 94

234 - Abdullah the Butcher 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 396 # of Ballots: 17 Average Vote: 77.71 High Vote: 32 (El Boricua) Low Vote: 100

235 - Dick Slater 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 386 # of Ballots: 14 Average Vote: 73.43 High Vote: 42 (John Steffy) Low Vote: 100

236 - Roderick Strong 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 376 # of Ballots: 14 Average Vote: 74.14 High Vote: 22 (Woof) Low Vote: 100 Recommended Match: Roderick Strong vs James Gibson (ROH, 10/2/2005)

It seems nonsensical for people to claim that Grimmas' position is indefensible. I'm not qualified to judge on the merits until I watch a whole bunch of Japan stuff, and re-watch all the Bret Hart matches I grew up seeing on TV, but it seems really dubious for various people to conclude there is no legitimate way to reach Grimmas' conclusions. This ranking process is inherently subjective and people are allowed to come up with different criteria in arriving at their results ... The debate is at an impasse and over now as far as I'm concerned. But I don't like one side being cast as a set of heels here, not the case. To me Steven frequently comes off like Carey here, fittingly another Canadian: The guy at wheel is reeling off all these amazing Kobashi matches and all these things Kobashi does better. And he's just saying "no Bret is better, no Bret is better" over and over again. The whole debate, in my view, came off like that. And it's why I've never been comfortable removing output -- that is hard, tangible evidence -- from the equation. There has to be evidence to back up claims. The realm of pure subjectivity in any debate descends to the level of that gif. I mean cool, if that's what you want, great, but it doesn't lend itself to actually getting to heart of anything. Seriously? meh, if that's what you think cool. I completely disagree, but whatever I'm done with debating this with you.

237 - Jerry Lynn 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 361 # of Ballots: 13 Average Vote: 73.23 High Vote: 21 Low Vote: 100

Exactly what I was going for.

Read the post by Stacey summarizing my thoughts. Listen to the Super Show where I lay out my case. If you don't agree with me fine, but I think Bret Hart is a better pro-wrestler than Kenta Kobashi.

Can do the time period when people started watching easily. PWO-PTBN podcast hosts would be interesting too.

We can do whatever you guys want.

Anything outside top 100 doesn't really count in my books.

Also we are at a weird spot where people are only appearing on about 10% of ballots. To put that in perspective, the lowest amount of ballots someone appeared on in the top 100 is 29% of ballots.

Glad a few mysteries were solved today (Dylan's 95 and Raven's placement).

238 - Sasha Banks 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 360 # of Ballots: 13 Average Vote: 73.31 High Vote: 22 (Scarlet-Left) Low Vote: 100

239 - Raven 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 359 # of Ballots: 20 Average Vote: 83.05 High Vote: 44 (Mando>Eddie) Low Vote: 100

240 - Karl Gotch 2006 Ranking: honourable mention (144) Points: 351 # of Ballots: 9 Average Vote: 62 High Vote: 20 Low Vote: 100 "There is a quote by Brian Eno I quite like about how every reviewer should post their top 5 contemporary pieces next to the review to give the reader an idea of their taste or whatever. That's kind of how I see my inclusion of Karl Gotch. His lineage is one that produced my favourite wrestling and leaving him off just doesn't feel right, even if what we have of his work is just a very small sampling. I doubt it's something that would convince anyone else but it's enough for me." GOTNW

YES!!!

241 - Batista 2006 Ranking: unranked Points: 349 # of Ballots: 15 Average Vote: 77.73 High Vote: 40 (topropepodcast) Low Vote: 100

242 - Dr. Wagner Jr. 2006 Ranking: honourable mention Points: 347 # of Ballots: 10 Average Vote: 66.30 High Vote: 41 Low Vote: 96