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@elliottis better at this than I, but really the classics have a great widebreath to it, but that's 80s, if you want 90s start with the big shows. Dream Slam, Dream Rush, Big Egg Universe, etc..

Thank you, and this is all settled and will be announced on the launch podcast! You'll be happy with the decision.

I will be tracking that data this time, expect a slower roll out of results, but more details.

Yes, I love everyone on my list, but my list is not ranked on my love level. EDIT: Actually I don't love Flair, I dislike Flair, but I don't feel like I can truly live him off. Atleast at this point.

Lots of Benoit voters last time, so yeah.

Charli is great, so maybe a bad example, but it's not about being objective, it is realizing your favourites are not always the best. There is a difference between liking and greatness and I think that is pretty obvious to most. Otherwise, my #1 is John Tenta and i'll just bow out of discussions for 5 years.

If you want to include it, I'm not going to stop you. I'm seriously okay with the Great Khali #1 voters, as long as they can explain and are comfortable with it. I do not take promos into account, although I do take into account how awful a human being a wrestler is, so maybe I am a hypocrite.

What I prefer and what is the GWE are not the same thing. I prefer Charli XCX to Rolling Stones, that doesn't mean Charli XCX is a better musician.

I really think that depends on what we are talking about, really how much someone drew is an important aspect to being a HOFer, but is it really important for the best performer?

His charisma in ring is out of this world.

If I was forced to choose great promo work/angle and ok match I prefer to great match with a shitty build up.

I 100% agree with this notion.

How do I evaluate a Shinobu Kandori promo? There are a lot of things that go into being a wrestler, like how good your merch is too. I don't know how you can take those things in. With movies/music we don't, not sure why we do with wrestling?

How crowd responds is not a problem at all. If I said differently, I apologize.

The point of wrestling and being an actor is the same, money. Does that mean The Rock is the best wrestler ever and the best actor ever? I would say no, and very few people looking into actors would think The Rock is even a contender for best actor, but you can't deny his boxoffice. Although I don't follow things enough, but is there any critics for music or movies that do their reviews based on the money those things make?

Speaking of which, it's half recorded, I have 3 more guests to record segments with, but yes how to participate, where, and the outline of the project will all be released on that podcast. Not only that, but many guests all talking different aspects of the project, plus looking back at 2016 and looking forward to 2026. Some nice guests indeed, I'm looking forward to everybody hearing it.

Elliot, you know you have to wait for the GWE Launch Party podcast to get those questions answered. Released WrestleMania week.

You came in here and kind of ignored the whole point of the project, so I tried to steer you in the right direction but pointing out the issues with your thinking in relation to this project. If you see that as an attack to push you away, I am sorry. I don't know what to tell you. There is discussions earlier in this very thread about how drawing power and promo ability is not valid. Which, I guess, you clearly ignored. There is no correct criteria for someone to say who is the greatest wrestler ever, but there is wrong things you can look at. How good they talked and how much money they made aren't relevant here. I'd love to have as many voices as possible, but it's up to you. Accept that those things aren't really involved for the reasons I stated and what was brought up earlier in this thread, or, as you put it, retreat back away.

There is no real criteria, but you might want to re-evaluate it yourself. Charisma, okay. How they act, perfect. How they talk? That's kind of like counting movie trailers while rating a movie, that seems off, eh? Also I would recommend not saying I am only going to explore people who speak my language, you can imagine the problems with that. Basically what you are saying is you will be voting for the best movie ever, you will discount any film not made in America and you will count the trailers towards how good the movie is. Does that sound like the tact you want to take?

That's the issue, it creates a bias for people who speak the language you do.

I don't think you got the point of the project, because drawing power is really irrelevant, and how good they talk is really irrelevant. It's like evaluating movies/music, how much they made and how good the trailers/music videos were are not really relevant. Nobody claims Avatar is the greatest film ever or Drake is the best musicina of all time.

Are you implying we shouldn't get a whole picture on a candidate, even if we know getting that whole picture will lower them then just seeing their best?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Why would you ignore charimsa and character work? That's all part of footage you watched, isn't it?

by if lay out you mean, who you think was the best based on the footage you have watched, then yep!

I don't think we are really talking about Avatar as the greatest movie ever.