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Bam Bam Bigelow vs Abdullah The Butcher in a singles match.

AWA August 11, 1990 The Destruction Crew vs The Trooper/DJ Peterson The last ever AWA title change, the last significant AWA match.

I enjoyed their quick little 3 way feud in WCW with the Cole Twins and Bobby Eaton/That Guy. Before he was turned into a smiley babyface, I enjoyed Henry as an asskicking JTTS heel, he had a couple of fun matches with Bam Bam Bigelow and somebody else, think it was Bret Hart.

David Manning, FTG.

Hey, Buddy Rose! Was that before or after he gave the AWA title to Nick Bockwinkel?

This is the exact reason why I consider Arn Anderson one of the two greatest heels of all time ... he could be both a badass and a pussy in the same match, and it always had credibility and it always made sense. The other greatest heel in my view was Tully Blanchard, but it's hard for me to pin down exactly what it does that is so much better than other heels, it is pure emotional. Decades later from the original match and whenever he comes on my TV on a comp, I want to punch him in his smug, stupid face. His very existince makes my blood boil in seething hatred. That is a great heel.

Or the other variation : How many Deadheads does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One to screw in the lightbulb, 3 to tape it, and 10 to follow it around until it burns out.

How many Deadheads does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A perfect metaphor for the entire deadhead experience, I would guess. Nah, my touring days and continued Deadhead existence are a big part of me not completely losing my mind. Shit, today on the job shit was starting to feel over whelming and pissing me off, I put on Dark Star> Playin'> Uncle John's from 10/16/89 and everything was alright. I'm at work so don't have the resources to look that up. A) Venue? and Commercial release or tape trade?

Moreso than Gary Hart?

Arn Anderson : The Enforcer .

Mero = a better documented Owen Hart?

I liked Sting's various matches with the Dangerous Alliance as well but ultimately came down for Luger, seemed to have a bit more versatility and I enjoyed his high end matches more.

I remember in one 1991 match with Rex King he broke out a cool reverse-gourdbuster that I have never seen him nor anyone else use again.

Not trying to make a dig, I love his matches and I have never met the man, does anyone have information as to what his relationships with other wrestlers have been like? I've heard on a couple of different instances that he was hard to deal with (granted, one of those people was RVD and the other I don't remember the specific name so, hey, look, a grain of salt.)

I've also heard he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

Don't think you get paid for it.

Agree 100%, there have been numerous matches I've anticipated over the years which have fallen to this phenomenon. Big long awaited matches that end on all-out screwy Dusty finishes, for the sake of sequels are particular gripes for me. There's more than one way to create anticipation for a rematch. I think the Flair Vs Steamboat 2/3 falls match at the Clash did a good job of setting up the rematch without going into a full on screwy finish. I didn't feel cheated and felt like I had seen a great match but it still made sense for there to be another match.

Did you mean the 1991 Bash where Flair left the company? Yeah, that match WAS a let down! I think he meant 88, where Luger had Flair in the Torture Rack and the match was stopped for a small trickle of blood.

The recent podcast on Wrestlemania IV put me in mind of how difficult it is to pull off a great match that ends in a Time Limit Draw. Done well, it can be an exciting tension builder, wondering whether or not someone is going to pull out the victory before time runs out. Done poorly, it can be a boring display of restholds and strung together, meaningless spots. My current favorite is the Hennig vs Bockwinkel one hour draw from the AWA, which told a great story of the young gun getting more and more anxious to put away the veteran champ. On the other end of the spectrum is the recently discussed Jake Roberts vs Rick Rude Wrestlemania IV match. The Steamboat vs Flair epic from a year later would show how a headlock can be used and still have a match be exciting, but Rude uses it in this one to put the match (and audience) into the deep freeze. One match I enjoyed when I first saw it but didn't on subsequent viewings was the 5/7/1995 Manami Toyota vs Kyoko Inoue match that wont the WON Match of the Year. it just seemed to be a long stretch of two people rolling through their finishers then kicking out with no sense that anything might win the match for them. So what are your favorites and least favorites? What do you feel makes for a great time limit draw and what makes for a poor one?

Believe it or not I had a little voice in the back of my head telling me this. I even wrote it in my notes. In a rare glimpse behind the curtain, here is a screen shot of my notes: I didn't get a chance to look this up before recording and then during the show I sort of ruled out the idea of Perez being the WCCW champ in my mind as being preposterous. Texas is kind of a blind spot for me. This was a year after Black Bart was WCCW Champ, so it wasn't their best time. On the first Saturday Night's Main Event after WMIV, the specific reason given for One Man Gang getting the first title shot was that Savage didn't pin him in the tournament, so that gives credence to the theory that was why he was protected at Mania. Savage pinned him on the Main Event but only after botched manager interference. It was pretty much the last thing of note he did in the WWF under that gimmick. I seem to recall he had one more squash match before he abandonned his caucasian ways. Fun podcast, I loved the discussion of the buildup. WMIV was the first Mania that took place during my active wrestling viewership, I also enjoyed it at the time but progressively less so on subsequent viewings. One rumor I heard was that most of the wrestlers had been up late the night before, drinking and gambling, which is the reason for some of the more listless performances. Full credit to Steamboat for a solid match, which was probably sheer bloody mindedness on his part : one last "fuck you" to Vince for fucking him on the way out.

Re. Meltzer bringing up Al Perez in comparison with Hogan, Flair and Hennig ... wasn't Perez World Class champion at the time?

"In America, they think 100 years is a long time. In England, they think 100 miles is a long way."