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Didn't he also tag with Andre at least once against the Heenan Family? Yeah, I guess then he would be more JTTS. Was Lanny Poffo for any significant period JTTS rather than upper level jobber? He was pretty much just a job guy when I got back into watching wrestling , but in more recently seeing footage from slightly before that period, I did see he was in at least one notable angle match however peripherally (a 6 man with the Can-Am Express vs the Dream Team and Adrian Adonis that laid some ground work for the later Brutus Beefcake face turn.)
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I get what you are saying, but I would still consider SD a full on high level jobber. I recall somebody doing a search for any SD victories, and only found a couple, which were pretty clearly jobber vs jobber matches on house shows. For me, the JTTS would get regular squash match victories on the TV shows, but when the higher lever guys had matches with them on a TV show, you had no doubt that the JTTS was going to lose. To put this in a bit of perspective : I first watched WWF wrestling in 1985, between Wrestlemania and WM2, then stopped when they changed around the tv shows on our local station, then started up again in 1987 around Survivor Series and have been watching wrestling ever since. Now, that first period of watching wrestling had a bit of a warped perspective. First of all, one of the shows I watched I was convinced was AWA, but it was actually Quebec International, because of the presence of AWA champions Rick Martel and the Road Warriors. But the WWF show was particularly bizarre because it was Maple Leaf Wrestling, which was a Canadian only WWF show (when I started watching again in 1987, it was the same show as Superstars). On this show (which I later found out was taped in Hamilton), guys who were jobbers in the rest of the WWF were a lot higher level. Lanny Poffo, George Wells, even Steve Gatorwolf, all regularly won matches. I was actually distressed when I visited my grandparents who got WWF shows from the US and saw George Wells (of whom I was a big fan) as part of a jobbing tag team. In this environment, I still never saw SD Jones win a match (although he did get a couple of interview segments).
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JTTS is a hardcore fan term as far as I know. Don't recall if it was in some of the newsletters before it hit the usenet (rec.sport.pro-wrestling). Jobber is of course a term wrestlers use and didn't come from the sheets or usenet. Folks came up with JTTS to describe the SD Jones type of jobber, though years after SD ran his course. John SD Jones always seemed more of a full on jobber rather than JTTS, albeit a high level one with name recognition. I'd figure the JTTS as more Tito Santana post-Strike Force, or Hillbilly Jim in his later years.
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I loved the very finish, has anyone else (Eddie?) used the "trick your opponent into thinking the ref has counted three" finish since this? -
What is the difference between the Tiger Suplex '85 and the Tequila Sunrise suplex.
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That's quite the hidden gem you're sitting on. It's from more of a distance than the rematch one (assuming you have the same handheld I have of that-haven't quite got to this yet) but definitely watchable qualitywise. If I ever get my ass into gear and figure out vhs conversion to my pc, I will of course make a copy available. The same tape also has the Windham/Rhodes match from the same night. I seem to recall the Sting title win being on a Scott Decker comp tape back in the day.
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He was special referee for one match.
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[1993-02-21-WCW-Superbrawl III] Chris Benoit vs 2 Cold Scorpio
rainmakerrtv replied to Loss's topic in February 1993
Oddly Wattsian finish for something that happened right after he left. -
Oh man I loved this match. I think I saw the full version once. Bellemo was surprisingly good, and Andre rules in tag bouts. I remember Buddy being the standout in the match. I saw this one ages ago on a CHV WWF Most Unusual Matches comp and since then have been trying to remember who all was in it.
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Was Bison Kimura always missing a front tooth and I failed to notice it, or did it get knocked out in this match?
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That sounds awesome, gotta try and track down that promo Don't think it was a promo, I believe it was during a match. I think it was in Memphis, Kerry got DQed for using a piledriver, Lawler said, "Hey, don't they have a rule in World Class where you lose the title on a DQ?" And Kerry replied, "That is true, but we also don't have any wimp rules like no piledrivers."
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It did for Rose and Summers, but that was only for certain types of countouts.
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I thought that was Rob "Sgt. Slaughter" Remus, but wikipedia says you are correct.
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Vladimir was the Snakes On A Train version of Nikita. Not even close to Nikita's physique and Nikita never had all that body hair (at least not in the ring). Ivan was pretty much wrestling for two.
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Scorching promo. I remember watching it and seeing this skinny guy with the goofball haircut and horn rimmed glasses and thought, "How was this guy the top heel?" Then he started talking and got concerned that he was going to crawl through the screen and give me what for. That good.
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OK, mine is a bit complicated. Initially when I started getting comps, I would watch a disc here and a disc there. Then I got organized and started watching sets from beginning to end. Then I got so many comps piling up that it was going to take forever before I got to them, so I took a variation on goodhelmet's suggestion of watching a different comp each day of the week by setting up a rotation system. Me being me, the rotation wound up growing mighty huge. Then I found there were some sets I wasn't getting to quick enough that I wanted to be able to possibly discuss on the board (namely the yearbooks) so I put them in what I call high rotation. I then added some other comps that I wanted to get through quickly to high rotation for various reasons. So now my system is I watch one disc from the regular rotation, then go through the high rotation, then the next comp in the regular rotation. No, this doesn't make much sense at this point. Here is where the rotation currently stands : Regular rotation Death of WCW Buddy Rose Steve Regal Eddie Gilbert Tracey Smothers Great Mutoh Stan Hansen Terry Funk Vader Kawada Bam Bam Bigelow Gary Hart International Jushin Liger Eddie Guerrero Chris Jericho High Rotation : 1992 Yearbook CMP 2 1993 Yearbook The Legend of Piper’s Pit 1996 Yearbook
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Buddy Rose is the new Dick Murdoch.
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