tigerpride

Well?

That was just incredible.

I'm looking forward to it. The post-Mania RAW is always fun and newsworthy.

Dean Ambrose beat him in a boot camp match for Tribute to The Troops

Since you completely disagree with me, can you explain how Cena is different from every other babyface ace in history? Do you think Bruno or Hogan could have taken three high profile losses in less than a year? Jumbo? JYD down in Mid-South? I don't see how or why people think that when it comes to Cena "losses don't matter". "Oh he's Cena, he can take it". Why? Auras fade when someone is jobbed out. Pedro Morales. He was un-beat-able. And an ace once upon a time. By 85 any aura he ever had is gone and buried. Why is Cena different and why don't the fundamental rules of wrestling booking 101 apply to him? Sell me on that, and you sell me on Rusev going over. EDIT: I actually wonder if this might be worth pulling out for its own topic. Cena's had one high profile loss. At the Rumble, he wasn't even pissed. In 2008, Cena jobbed clean at Mania to Orton, and was pinned by Orton again at Backlash. He then jobbed clean to JBL at Great American Bash and to Batista at Summerslam. That's four high profile losses and he seemed to do okay.

I thought it was determined when he came back that Hogan is in bad shape and shouldn't be wrestling again

Cena's always been the man. He survived the loss to Brock just fine and he survived an incredibly one sided feud with The Rock (until he won in the end) just fine too. They had a chance to make Rusev a made man last night and just blew it. It would've been Cena's first real loss in 200 days. I think he'd do okay. I'm not saying Cena needs to job all the time but he would've easily survived the Rusev loss because he's John Cena, while Rusev becomes the unstoppble main eventer and you can keep building him up until it's finally time for him to lose. Mania wasn't the time, especially like that. The win wasn't entirely clean though. It was an old-school manager-mixup-on-the-apron finish. So he has an excuse. Is this feud done now then? 1-1 by my count, with one "tainted" win on either side. Next step would be the cage match blow-off? Who will Rusev feud with otherwise? Bryan for the IC belt? Babyface Lesnar? I suspect too that Cena going over there was as much to do with Rollins going over in the main event. You can't have a heel walk out with the title AND have your ace lose to the evil Russian on the same card. If I'd done that in my 1983 booking I'd never ever hear the end of it. Shit, I put DiBiase over Bruno and never heard the end of it. And all I was trying to do was exactly this. And DiBiase was a bigger name in 1983 than Rusev is in 2015. Oh come on, that's a pretty clean win and it seemed like a definitive ending to a feud. I don't need to see another match between them. Either way, Rusev's undefeated streak is done, which sucks and I thought was pretty weak booking. I don't know what your 1983 booking is, but given the reaction to Rollins last night, I think you could've put them both over, especially with Taker winning, D-Bry getting the IC belt and Rock and Ronda Rousey showing up, you can have Cena lose and it's fun. If anything, Cena can move onto another feud pretty easily (heel accuses him of letting down America) and Rusev continues to build to an epic world title match or another big dream match against a main eventer. Cena going over kills all that.

He wanted to cash in when both guys were down and he didn't want do it when he might have to face Brock one on one

Cena's always been the man. He survived the loss to Brock just fine and he survived an incredibly one sided feud with The Rock (until he won in the end) just fine too. They had a chance to make Rusev a made man last night and just blew it. It would've been Cena's first real loss in 200 days. I think he'd do okay. I'm not saying Cena needs to job all the time but he would've easily survived the Rusev loss because he's John Cena, while Rusev becomes the unstoppble main eventer and you can keep building him up until it's finally time for him to lose. Mania wasn't the time, especially like that.

Yea, Rollins definitely was teasing it leading up to the show and his cashing in was in no-way like the Orton-D-Bry matches. Picked a weird hill to die on

It wasn't time yet for Rusev to lose, and they should've used Rusev's loss to elevate someone. Not John Cena. No, Cena doesn't lose his aura because he's John Cena. Undertaker is a bad example, because his gimmick was that he never lost for 21 years. And the crowd still seemed into him last night, too.

JerryVonKramer saying Rusev going over Cena would kill business is just an absurd ridiculous statement. Rusev absolutely should've won last night, he would've been a made man for life, especially with that entrance. Cena can afford to do the job, he's John Cena. Rusev going through the summer with the question of who can finally beat him is great booking. Also, for someone who whined about to much current wresting talk, you sure are posting a lot in this thread

The opening video

- According to PWInsider, Triple H’s Terminator: Genisys-themed entrance for his match at WrestleMania will go full-cyborg, so to speak. The site says that the entrance will receive the full Terminator treatment, including clips from the upcoming film, in order to play off of his friendship with WWE Hall of Fame inductee Arnold Schwarzenegger. Sorry Andre the Giant battle royal participants!

I bet Rollins v. Orton and Rusev v. Cena will get time. Plus, entrances for Sting, Rusev, and Taker will take time

Yea, and it's one of the most annoying aspects of wrestling.

I've only seen the Summerslam match once and it was captivating. It was something different and it was great. The whole time I had a sinking feeling waiting for Cena to hit his moves and win and he just didn't. Kudos to Cena for taking that beating. I was at the Rumble, so it's skewed, but I love the triple threat so much. Instantly became one of my favourite matches. Rollins looked like great and I love they are putting Lesnar over so strong. When he does get beat, it will really mean something

This is great for wrestling, since it means more Brock Lesnar in WWE and that's always awesome. Of Brock's ten matches since his return, I'm going to say that I only genuinely enjoy two of them. ER 2012 and SummerSlam 2013. Triple threat at the Rumble was amazing. The other two Cena matches were good. Brock's presence just makes everything better. From him F5ing McMahon to the segments with Mark Henry

I don't. Ambrose: Hey, about you trying to murder me with a cinderblock...no worries. Whatever, everyone has past beefs with each other that have been forgotten. It would be a bigger issue in a company that stressed continuity. That doesn't make it okay. They spent an entire summer with Ambrose trying to kill him and now they're just going to make up? Even though they never really got revenge on him? That's bad storytelling. It's too soon for a Shield reunion.

This is great for wrestling, since it means more Brock Lesnar in WWE and that's always awesome.

I don't. Ambrose: Hey, about you trying to murder me with a cinderblock...no worries.

I don't see how your one cancellation would remotely make a difference

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read No it isn't. You found it witty and yet at the same time intelligent, and you're a better person for having read it. No, it was the usual Thread Killer post where you try way too hard and completely miss the mark.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read

That Max Landis video was amazing and beautiful